Will AoD reinstate the annexation-update of unit values? I ask because this is an essential part of Mod34, which is an excellent mod, and the lack of this feature in the Beta Patches has prevented it from updating to those versions.
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This "feature" was an unintended leftover from previous games. That's why it was buggy, in that it required a country to be annexed. Perhaps the AoD team could "fix it" so that it doesn't require an annexation? Otherwise I believe it'll be removed...
I'll second this. Mod34 is my personal favorite major mod, and it would be nice to see a version on this game.
Uh, there are quite a lot of mods to suggest, many of which have already been mentioned. like events from mod33 mostly are of great quality and many of them should come with base game. also events of congratulating on conquering area from mod34 are very handy. however, also these less known mods are worth taking into consideration:
Name : Tibetan historical pack
Mod : very small pack, changes only databases, pictures, cores.
URL : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7277188&postcount=726
Responsible Contact : Le Ran
What does it change : tech teams, ministers, their pictures and cores.
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : no problem
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
Then, not a mod but a suggestion - I'd be madly happy to see Japanese and maybe French submersible aircraft cariers. http://www.damninteresting.com/submersible-aircraft-carriers I'd be even madlier to see japanese or some other power actually bombing and thus shutting down the panama canal, as japanese were ready to do using those submersible cariers.
Back to mods - would be great to take the large amounts of music that different mods have acquired over the years. also, specific music can be found in national mods, like Romanian Improvement Project.
Name : Romanian Improvement Project
Mod : events, music, databases, pictures.
URL : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323996
Responsible Contact : Crush3r
What does it change : events, music, databases, pictures, etc.
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : no problem
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
Then there are with the same idea made in polish mod II Republic Mod. Though, it's in polish, they've done lots and good research of info, so at least parts of that definitely can be used.
Name : IIRP
Mod : events, music, databases, pictures, etc.
URL : http://rs112.rapidshare.com/files/52667793/Instalator.exe and their forum http://forum.eufi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=273
Responsible Contact : Not sure.
What does it change : events, music, databases, pictures, etc.
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : probably no problem
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
On this polish forum there are few more smaller mods that are worth checking.
Similar to polish mod are czech mods http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=275920 (this one is in english and has some ahistorical events), http://rs51.rapidshare.com/files/130374689/csr_mod.rar (in czech, has more stuff then english version).
You probably already know HIP mod, very ambitious and interesting, for example the fixed IC growth via GDP, etc.
It would be great if you could get E3 map as basis..
Name : Tibetan historical pack
Mod : very small pack, changes only databases, pictures, cores.
URL : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7277188&postcount=726
Responsible Contact : Le Ran
What does it change : tech teams, ministers, their pictures and cores.
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : no problem
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
Then, not a mod but a suggestion - I'd be madly happy to see Japanese and maybe French submersible aircraft cariers. http://www.damninteresting.com/submersible-aircraft-carriers I'd be even madlier to see japanese or some other power actually bombing and thus shutting down the panama canal, as japanese were ready to do using those submersible cariers.
Back to mods - would be great to take the large amounts of music that different mods have acquired over the years. also, specific music can be found in national mods, like Romanian Improvement Project.
Name : Romanian Improvement Project
Mod : events, music, databases, pictures.
URL : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323996
Responsible Contact : Crush3r
What does it change : events, music, databases, pictures, etc.
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : no problem
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
Then there are with the same idea made in polish mod II Republic Mod. Though, it's in polish, they've done lots and good research of info, so at least parts of that definitely can be used.
Name : IIRP
Mod : events, music, databases, pictures, etc.
URL : http://rs112.rapidshare.com/files/52667793/Instalator.exe and their forum http://forum.eufi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=273
Responsible Contact : Not sure.
What does it change : events, music, databases, pictures, etc.
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : probably no problem
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
On this polish forum there are few more smaller mods that are worth checking.
Similar to polish mod are czech mods http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=275920 (this one is in english and has some ahistorical events), http://rs51.rapidshare.com/files/130374689/csr_mod.rar (in czech, has more stuff then english version).
You probably already know HIP mod, very ambitious and interesting, for example the fixed IC growth via GDP, etc.
It would be great if you could get E3 map as basis..
I tried plying Mod 33, but I gave up almost immediately as it kept firing nonsense s-f events like a second American Civil war.
I would therefore like to understand ; if AoD is a more or less historical game, I will most certainly buy it, if it will include very unlikely events like mod33's or Turtledove's , I'd like to know now, so I will stop wasting my time following AoD development and I will most certainly spare my money.
The base AoD is little different in its 'moddable' elements from vanilla HoI: Armageddon. Mods that have been made for Arma., however, should work with the AoD executable. to get the mod working well, some tweaks may be advisable to make the most of new features or, perhaps, avoid "odd" results if some data setting has been exaggerated to 'correct' something that was an oddity of the HoI code that we have modified to work without such a setting. Such effects are likely to be subtle, but we know that modders (and, indeed, HoI players in general) tend to be particular about what they want 
Hm, have played mod33 quite a lot, but I'm not sure I've seen second American Civil war in there. Ah, hm, maybe I have once or smth like that.. Sure, some mod33 events are a-historical (some - very), but you should take into consideration how many events there are in that mod and how few of them actually are a-historical, like what, less then 5%? Either you have bad install, or smth went quite wrong.
Anyways, vanilla is like an empty abyss in regards to events and historical process in comparison to mod33 and other mods. It would be quite ok to transport at least events from mod33 for the small countries. Because a) those events (of small countries) have very few, if any, a-historical events and b) in vanilla most of minors have either none or almost no events. For example I'm quite sure that AoD could just take the events files of Persia, South American countries, Turkey, both Spains (mod34 is very good with these too) and few others without having to modify any events at all. Anyways, I'm just very pro-events and pro-historical minded
I think that it would be better transporting only the historical events
I agree with you on this and I second your proposal (assuming, of course, that the modders who developed Mod33 have no objections)Anyways, vanilla is like an empty abyss in regards to events and historical process in comparison to mod33 and other mods. It would be quite ok to transport at least events from mod33 for the small countries. Because a) those events (of small countries) have very few, if any, a-historical events and b) in vanilla most of minors have either none or almost no events. For example I'm quite sure that AoD could just take the events files of Persia, South American countries, Turkey, both Spains (mod34 is very good with these too) and few others without having to modify any events at all. Anyways, I'm just very pro-events and pro-historical minded
Yes, of course. Maybe I didn't express myself clearly - events of small countries in mod33 have very few - if any - a-historical events. So they could be added [almost] instantly. I didn't intent to say that there are too few a-historical events for small countries
At the same time, some of a-historical events could be very well added and would only be of great value, for example the events in TRP after Germany has conquered Great Britain - the setup of british resistance state "Free Commonwealth" in India, etc, they are great and have high enough quality to become vanilla events.
As for if mod33 would support usage of their files - no idea on that. I'm only fan
I'm not quite as interested in its stats-modding as I was when I first saw it. If AoD removes the limitations on number of models we can get similar effects that way. I'm more interested in the events and scenario setup for the 1933-36 period (esp. in the China region).
I would suggest mib's CCIP (Consolidated China Improvement Pack) but I think most of it has been integrated into SMEP so including that should do it.
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Name : The Graphic Improvement Project
Mod : Improves graphics by added Colour
URL : http://giphoi.wordpress.com/
Responsible Contact : Horton (me)
What does it change : just graphics
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : HoI2, HOI2: DD and HOI2 :Arm. Plus most mods as we only replace graphics
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : YES
Mod : Improves graphics by added Colour
URL : http://giphoi.wordpress.com/
Responsible Contact : Horton (me)
What does it change : just graphics
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : HoI2, HOI2: DD and HOI2 :Arm. Plus most mods as we only replace graphics
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : YES
I'd really want to see compatibility with this:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438609
1914 mod
Name : 1914 mod
Mod : WWI
URL : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8714073#post8714073
Responsible Contact (i guess) : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/member.php?u=52623 v.Manstein, http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/member.php?u=73103 igro_bel, etc
What does it change : it's a nice mod on the WWI
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : HOI2, HOIDD, HOIARMA,
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
Name : 1914 mod
Mod : WWI
URL : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8714073#post8714073
Responsible Contact (i guess) : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/member.php?u=52623 v.Manstein, http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/member.php?u=73103 igro_bel, etc
What does it change : it's a nice mod on the WWI
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : HOI2, HOIDD, HOIARMA,
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
CORE and AoD
Hi Der Bismarck,
In short, AoD should be compatible with CORE, although I'm sure there would need to be some tweaking of values and settings to integrate and include all of the new changes that AoD introduces. The CORE team is looking closely at the AoD developments and it looks very likely that we will be integrating the CORE mod to AoD while we wait for a bug free HOI3.
I can't say what time frame before CORE for AoD is ready until it is released and we can examine the new features, but it shouldn't take too long to have a working release out, with later patches to balance out any problems we encounter.
El Alamein
Hi Der Bismarck,
In short, AoD should be compatible with CORE, although I'm sure there would need to be some tweaking of values and settings to integrate and include all of the new changes that AoD introduces. The CORE team is looking closely at the AoD developments and it looks very likely that we will be integrating the CORE mod to AoD while we wait for a bug free HOI3.
I can't say what time frame before CORE for AoD is ready until it is released and we can examine the new features, but it shouldn't take too long to have a working release out, with later patches to balance out any problems we encounter.
El Alamein
Name : Cold War Tech Tree Extension
Mod : extension of the tech tree up to 1969- many new units and events, and 2 alternate history victorious Germany scenarios + one Cold War (not Doomsday)
URL : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376965
Responsible Contact : Nomonhan (although he hasn't been online for a while)
What does it change : tech teams, ministers, techs, units, events, scenarios
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : no problem
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
Mod : extension of the tech tree up to 1969- many new units and events, and 2 alternate history victorious Germany scenarios + one Cold War (not Doomsday)
URL : http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376965
Responsible Contact : Nomonhan (although he hasn't been online for a while)
What does it change : tech teams, ministers, techs, units, events, scenarios
Compatibility to Vanilla Hoi and other Mods : no problem
Responsible Modder Agrees to have it in : dont know
Please do integrate the SKIF icons, of course, if you don't that would hardly stop me from just throwing them in myself... Though, please save me a few minutes of work, maybe more for those spiffy new subs
Oh, and if you're worried about the supply units, I'm sure someone could come up with sexy new icons for those too... I would think about doing it myself if I wasn't swamped with work in Egypt of all places...
Keep up the great work!
Oh, and if you're worried about the supply units, I'm sure someone could come up with sexy new icons for those too... I would think about doing it myself if I wasn't swamped with work in Egypt of all places...
Keep up the great work!