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You want a Gig of memory to be available to windows.
So if you have 128 meg and yours system only reports 126? for some reason.
Then you want a virtual memory of about 896 meg.

Right now you have about half that.

You can see that just with what you had running when you did the test, which I bet was not very much, you were using all of your 128meg main memory, plus 224 meg of virtual memory and only had 154 meg left to use.
 
The game is to blame

Castellon said:
You want a Gig of memory to be available to windows.
So if you have 128 meg and yours system only reports 126? for some reason.
Then you want a virtual memory of about 896 meg.

Right now you have about half that.

You can see that just with what you had running when you did the test, which I bet was not very much, you were using all of your 128meg main memory, plus 224 meg of virtual memory and only had 154 meg left to use.
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I just purchased another RAM stick, with 512 MB. Added to my original stick, I now have a total of 640 MB. My page file is 2000 MB with an additional 1000 MB as a reserve.

The upgrade was successful. All of my other programs now load and run much more quickly :) -- and Crusader Kings loads and crashes much faster. :mad:

My save games that crashed on loading before, continue to crash, they simply crash much more quickly.

The specific file of which I speak, is a little over 10 MB large. Another save that I have, from a different game, is about 20 MB and loads fine.

I appreciate your efforts, but given the foregoing facts I can't reach any other conclusion than that Crusader Kings creates errors which corrupt save files, or cannot save the files properly.

All three of the saves from the 10 MB game will not load (my save, plus the two autosaves), meaning hours of gameplay is simply lost down the drain.

I do not expect Paradox to fix every inconsistancy in this game; I don't expect them to fix evey CTD. I do excpect to be able to reliably save my game. Until I can, this Crusader Kings is as good as worthless.
 
First, I don't wnat you to think you wasted your money on the memory for nothing, you really did need it.

Second yes once a save is corrupt it will stay corrupt.

Third loading games saved under a different patch is not good either.

Here is what I would suggest.

Wipe the game from your system, then reinstall, then apply 1.04A, then follow my standard 3 steps, then start a new game. See if you still are having problems.

Castellon Standard 3 Steps:
1) Rename the AVI folder to AVI_back
2) Set the color depth to 16BIT
3) Turn off everything in the background like E-mail/ICQ/Messenger, Virus protection and everything in the system tray beside the clock.

You may also want to update your video driver, it is a little old.
 
Castellon said:
First, I don't wnat you to think you wasted your money on the memory for nothing, you really did need it.
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I know, everthing is much faster now. In CK, I can now scroll the map while the game is running, whereas before I had to pause the game. The pointer is still "jerky" or "jumps" from one spot to the next if I move it quickly with the game running, which is irritating, but otherwise I can notice an improvement in the game.

Second yes once a save is corrupt it will stay corrupt.

Third loading games saved under a different patch is not good either.

Here is what I would suggest.

Wipe the game from your system, then reinstall, then apply 1.04A, then follow my standard 3 steps, then start a new game. See if you still are having problems.
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I already tried reinstalling the game before I upgraded. I guess I could completely uninstall and then install from scratch.

You might be interested, in case you are helping other people with this problem, that a phantom county "u019" has been discovered in the saves of more than one person with this situation, which is being discussed in the bug forum: Link

I am the first to confess my ignorance but I personally don't see how a lack of memory could be the cause of that. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Castellon Standard 3 Steps:
1) Rename the AVI folder to AVI_back
2) Set the color depth to 16BIT
3) Turn off everything in the background like E-mail/ICQ/Messenger, Virus protection and everything in the system tray beside the clock.
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What is it about the intro video that is so terrible? (Besides the script :p) Does that take up a chunk of memory? I ussaully press the "esc" key to skip it anyway.

You may also want to update your video driver, it is a little old.
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Can you be more specific?
 
Re: driver
Driver Date/Size: 4/15/2003 11:40:56, 33792 bytes
Your video driver is 19 months old, a new driver (think patch) comes out at least once every three months, So you are several versions behind.

It is not the intro videos themselves that are the problem, it is the program that plays them. The Bink player sometimes does not unload itself from memory properly, thus causing all kinds of problems like causing seemingly random CTDs.
 
I'm having trouble loading a saved game, CTD just before the "initializing" stage (unlikely to do with my hardware specifications). I've noticed a rather pronounced abnormality in the loading screen before selecting a character; on the kingdom screen, there is a title for Poland, and then there is a space for another title at the top, but there is no coat of arms in the shield and there is no text after it. The titles, however, are exactly the same as that of Poland. I think this is a result of some action within the game; I'm not sure how it first occurred, but the wife of the king is a countess in Poland holding most of the land. The king, on the other hand, has no actual land himself. He still holds all the counts/dukes in vassalage, but he himself has no lands. Perhaps the game translated the queen as an additional king of Poland? I looked in the save file, and the selectable kingdoms include U019, which is specified as a "male" character with the same dna and titles as POLA.
 
Shackles said:
I'm having trouble loading a saved game, CTD just before the "initializing" stage (unlikely to do with my hardware specifications). I've noticed a rather pronounced abnormality in the loading screen before selecting a character; on the kingdom screen, there is a title for Poland, and then there is a space for another title at the top, but there is no coat of arms in the shield and there is no text after it. The titles, however, are exactly the same as that of Poland. I think this is a result of some action within the game; I'm not sure how it first occurred, but the wife of the king is a countess in Poland holding most of the land. The king, on the other hand, has no actual land himself. He still holds all the counts/dukes in vassalage, but he himself has no lands. Perhaps the game translated the queen as an additional king of Poland? I looked in the save file, and the selectable kingdoms include U019, which is specified as a "male" character with the same dna and titles as POLA.
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The "U019 problem" is unwinded here, where Caranorn posts a way to fix it hatched by Subterranean:
Deleted the U019 kingdom from the header
Deleted the whole U019 country section
Under the C572 country section, added province 572 to the controlled
province list. (This was previously held by U019, who got deleted).
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Note also the addendum by Gergely:
For those characters who has the entry TAG = U019 you have to replace it with TAG = "correct tag"
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Shackles said:
I'm having trouble loading a saved game, CTD just before the "initializing" stage (unlikely to do with my hardware specifications).
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Then why would you post in the Hardware support forum instead of the bug forum. ;)

Please read the sticky that says "You must read this before posting"
 
Castellon said:
Then why would you post in the Hardware support forum instead of the bug forum. ;)

Please read the sticky that says "You must read this before posting"
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Oops... Well, in my defense, I was in the bug forum and followed a link from a post in there about a very similar problem which led to this thread. For my complicity, I neglected to notice that it had changed fora! My apologies.

But thank you Havard for the answer.
 
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Has it ever been pointed out that you can spot a corrupt savegame by checking the file size? If it's something like 40kb instead of 18mb for example, you shouldn't even click on it, or POW!

Just checking..
 
Bug form issue now, but thanks for the tip.
 
Bug form issue? I don't understand..
 
Ahh, ok. :D
 
I type a little fast. :)
Mia culpa. :D
 
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