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I am allowed to change to Sunni and back to Ibadi during my third way achievement run?
Yes. It only matters that you start as an Ibadi nation and are ibadi at the moment you get the achievement. You can do anything inbetween(except playing as a released vassal, because that is explicitly forbidden). Are you planning on using Ibadi rebels to convert your provinces?
 
Yes. It only matters that you start as an Ibadi nation and are ibadi at the moment you get the achievement. You can do anything inbetween(except playing as a released vassal, because that is explicitly forbidden). Are you planning on using Ibadi rebels to convert your provinces?
No, I try to start as Pate -> form Hausa -> change to Sunni -> form Sokoto (requires Sunni + Sunni dominant religion) - > change back to Ibadi. Hope to achieve dominant religion by mass spamming Sunni TC.
 
Hope to achieve dominant religion by mass spamming Sunni TC.
what do you mean by that? Just conquering Sunni provinces? That can easily make sunni the dominant religion(it just needs to be the religion with the highest dev in your country). The way back is more difficult, because there are almost no ibadi provinces which you could conquer so you probably need rebels for that
 
what do you mean by that? Just conquering Sunni provinces? That can easily make sunni the dominant religion(it just needs to be the religion with the highest dev in your country). The way back is more difficult, because there are almost no ibadi provinces which you could conquer so you probably need rebels for that
TC to keep my country stable up to converting to Sunni. Was thinking to flip both ways by rebels and keep Sunni only a very short time... always keeping it close to 50/50
 
No, I try to start as Pate -> form Hausa -> change to Sunni -> form Sokoto (requires Sunni + Sunni dominant religion) - > change back to Ibadi. Hope to achieve dominant religion by mass spamming Sunni TC.
Is Hausa formable if you don't start as one of the Hausan tags in the area? There's no dedicated wiki page, you should check the game files to find out.

Flipping Sunni shouldn't be a problem, since you are surrounded by Sunny tags in your starting location. You'll need to colonize around Africa to reach the Sub Saharan region, then conquer into it to do the formations you want. That will be mostly Fetishist and some Sunni land. If I were you, I'd try to keep the blobbing to the required minimum at the start (strengthen yourself somewhat since you begin as OPM), get around West Africa ASAP (stay Ibadi), then when you are ready to flip Sunni conquer into Kilwa/Somali states to achieve Sunni development parity/majority. Then provoke Sunni rebels next to your capital, let them occupy it and you should be above 50% to accept rebel demands and flip. Form Sokoto ASAP, while still keeping blobbing and conversions to the minimum so you don't really change the religious balance, and when you are done, you could release some vassals with your Sunni lands to lower that development share, spawn Ibadi rebels from another province next to your capital, let it be occupied and fall to the rebel demands again so you are back to Ibadi.

If you keep it compact, it could be done without too much hassle, but might require you to go over your diplo limit to get more allies to do some heavy lifting for you if your compact nation doesn't feel strong enough to take on those you need to take on.

And check the Hausa formation requirements, because your whole plan hinges on it, it would be bad to find out that it can't be done when you've already spent time setting it up.
 
I know for certain that, if you switch from monarchy to an electoral system (eg. Republic, States General) then your monarch is immediately removed and an election occurs.

However, I'm not sure about theocracies. All I can suggest is that you save (and back up your save if you're in ironman) and try it out.



I think the cap has been removed. At least, I can't see any reference to a cap on the wiki, and I personally have saved 300-400 points over the limit at times.

Turns out you retain your ruler when making the switch to a theocracy. Shame as that was the last decent ruler since switching. Not sure if it's RNG or something programmed in for theocracies but all of my heirs have been trash. As in 5 to 7 total points bad for 3 straight rulers.


That and not being able to get through the govt reforms has been a bit of a bummer. Was wanting to try out the great holy war CB but looks like I won't be able to reach that final tier in time. Guess I can't blob too much and still generate the reform points fast enough.
 
So I'm still on my pre-leviathan tutorial game, and a friend pointed out im not doing the vassal feeding right. I tend to release a vassal, use his claims to wage war, and then cede provinces to them in the peacedeal, but apparently you need to "return cores" to minimise AE? Or is there something else that I'm missing?

But additional question, how can you see which vassals will have which cores? For example, I released Syria, which has now cores on 8 provinces in the area, but how could I have known they would get specificly those? On the province tab there were only 2 marked as "syria considered this to be a core province"
 
Why do I keep losing Crown Land?

Sorry for not being able to go into more detail, but that's really the only thing I can observe.

I don't pick events where I'd lose it, I don't sell land, I regularly seize land, but I can't stay above 50% crown land. It keeps dropping and dropping.

I am expanding fast. Is that the reason?
 
So I'm still on my pre-leviathan tutorial game, and a friend pointed out im not doing the vassal feeding right. I tend to release a vassal, use his claims to wage war, and then cede provinces to them in the peacedeal, but apparently you need to "return cores" to minimise AE? Or is there something else that I'm missing?
Are you using a reconquest war on behalf of your vassal? That is the important part for the AE. If return core or cede province gives depends on the situation and I don't know if anybody has figured out how it is calculated exactly.
But additional question, how can you see which vassals will have which cores? For example, I released Syria, which has now cores on 8 provinces in the area, but how could I have known they would get specificly those? On the province tab there were only 2 marked as "syria considered this to be a core province"
if you release a country from your provinces, they will get all provinces which say "x considered this to be a core province" in the province window. Or do you mean that they later acquired claims on provinces? claims can be acquired by fabricating them or through missions, but they are not cores.
 
Turns out you retain your ruler when making the switch to a theocracy. Shame as that was the last decent ruler since switching. Not sure if it's RNG or something programmed in for theocracies but all of my heirs have been trash. As in 5 to 7 total points bad for 3 straight rulers.

FYI, Theocracy heirs are incredibly savescummable, if you're into that kind of thing. (Chances are, one of the 6 possible options will be good enough. And I think that heir stats should be visible to the player if you have a choice like this, so I don't think savescumming is a bad thing.)

That and not being able to get through the govt reforms has been a bit of a bummer. Was wanting to try out the great holy war CB but looks like I won't be able to reach that final tier in time. Guess I can't blob too much and still generate the reform points fast enough.

Yeah, Great Holy War seems to take quite a long time. You'll probably unlock it a few decades before imperialism, which kinda sucks.

The only thing you can do to speed it up is keep autonomy in every province as low as possible. And avoid "expanding administration" for governing capacity. And, perhaps, conquer and upgrade the Great Projects that give reform points (Venice & Naples).
 
Why do I keep losing Crown Land?

Sorry for not being able to go into more detail, but that's really the only thing I can observe.

I don't pick events where I'd lose it, I don't sell land, I regularly seize land, but I can't stay above 50% crown land. It keeps dropping and dropping.

I am expanding fast. Is that the reason?
Maybe crown land equilibrium is acting against you? The formula there looks pretty complicated, but the behaviour you describe seems possible if your equilibrium is well below 50%.
 
Are you using a reconquest war on behalf of your vassal? That is the important part for the AE. If return core or cede province gives depends on the situation and I don't know if anybody has figured out how it is calculated exactly.

if you release a country from your provinces, they will get all provinces which say "x considered this to be a core province" in the province window. Or do you mean that they later acquired claims on provinces? claims can be acquired by fabricating them or through missions, but they are not cores.

I dont think I saw those options when I declared my various wars. but 'll double check in future. When do you get a reconquest CB?

What I mean is that I checked various provinces before I made the vassals, but only like 2 had the "syria considers this as a core province". But when i released them, they suddenly had 8
 
I dont think I saw those options when I declared my various wars. but 'll double check in future. When do you get a reconquest CB?

A reconquest CB is created when a nation's cores are owned by someone else. Eg. If some of Syria's cores are owned by the Ottomans then Syria will have a reconquest CB on the Ottomans. (It may take a few in-game days for the CB to be generated - ie. it might not exist for a few days after releasing Syria as a vassal.)

What I mean is that I checked various provinces before I made the vassals, but only like 2 had the "syria considers this as a core province". But when i released them, they suddenly had 8

It's very hard to follow what you've done from your description, so I can't offer an explanation.

However, in the future, there are two key things to check:
  • Before releasing a vassal: Check all nearby provinces not owned by you to see if there are any where the new vassal will have a core. (As far as I know, there is no quicker way to check this before releasing the vassal - it has to be done manually.)
  • After releasing a vassal: Switch to diplomatic mapmode and left-click on a province owned by the vassal. All their unowned cores will be shown with green stripes. The vassal will have a reconquest CB to reclaim those cores, and you can use that CB on their behalf.
 
FYI, Theocracy heirs are incredibly savescummable, if you're into that kind of thing. (Chances are, one of the 6 possible options will be good enough. And I think that heir stats should be visible to the player if you have a choice like this, so I don't think savescumming is a bad thing.)



Yeah, Great Holy War seems to take quite a long time. You'll probably unlock it a few decades before imperialism, which kinda sucks.

The only thing you can do to speed it up is keep autonomy in every province as low as possible. And avoid "expanding administration" for governing capacity. And, perhaps, conquer and upgrade the Great Projects that give reform points (Venice & Naples).

Not into the save scumming, I will role with the punches, was just curious if theocracies had a set range on their scores. May just be confirmation bias but also had a Teutonic crusader campaign which consistently had some low level rulers (avg sub 9 scores). Or maybe I'm just spoiled that monarchies have the infanticide...I mean the disinherit button.

As for the Great War CB it's not even going to make an appearance by 1820. It's already 1750 I'm still about 20 years short of getting the penultimate reform. Is everyone just mashing down the LA button after every conquest? I generally don't mess with it and just let it tick down slowly over time. And in this game it was a very slow start - playing as Kandy for the Buddhist Strikes Back achievement. Spent a huge part of colonizing before I could even get a chance to take down VJ.
 
I dont think I saw those options when I declared my various wars. but 'll double check in future. When do you get a reconquest CB?
Are you playing with the Art of War DLC? It is needed to make use of the CBs of your subjects. Ideally you conquer one province which has a core of a dead country, release that country as a vassal and then use the reconquest CB to conquer their cores back for them. Then you get a significant AE discount for the provinces.

What I mean is that I checked various provinces before I made the vassals, but only like 2 had the "syria considers this as a core province"
If you have a new enough game version(not sure if it was added in 1.31 or 1.32), you can move your mouse over that core and all other cores of that country will be highlighted on the map.
 
Are you playing with the Art of War DLC? It is needed to make use of the CBs of your subjects. Ideally you conquer one province which has a core of a dead country, release that country as a vassal and then use the reconquest CB to conquer their cores back for them. Then you get a significant AE discount for the provinces.


If you have a new enough game version(not sure if it was added in 1.31 or 1.32), you can move your mouse over that core and all other cores of that country will be highlighted on the map.
Yes, all dlc except Leviathan. I am however on 1.30.6, so that might explain it.

So which is then the better CB if you want to take large sways of land regarding AE? Reconquest or Imperialism? Or can you declare imperialism and lower the AE by returning cores in the peacedeal?