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If that had happened (which would have been very doubtful) I don't believe Britain would have got involved, because it would have been a war of aggression. This is why I think Britain should be neutral at the outset of the game and be able to enter via an event of some sort.
I think the game should have a "ending event" as in HoI you can beat the Germans but then you get the "what now?" feeling. As the Germans, I crushed France, the USSR and britain and I was obviously master of europe 
but that was it.
It kinda leaves you with an empty feeling.
but that was it. It kinda leaves you with an empty feeling.
i don't know if my post is right here... but i will try it.
the manpower pool of GB should be accidental because at the beginning of the war they had no conscription.
OK, the british people had a lot of enthusiasm like other people in nations that joined the war but that shouldn't be ignored.
the manpower pool of GB should be accidental because at the beginning of the war they had no conscription.
OK, the british people had a lot of enthusiasm like other people in nations that joined the war but that shouldn't be ignored.
in the US, people thought it would be short and "fun" like the Spanish American war.
I believe Teddy R even wanted to lead a calvary brigade himself.
I believe Teddy R even wanted to lead a calvary brigade himself.
Originally posted by Jaron
I believe Teddy R even wanted to lead a calvary brigade himself.
Wasn't he a bit old by then? I know he led the Rough Riders at San Juan Hill in 1898. Nice Man. Big Stick, too.
he was old and they told him no.
it to me illustrates the huge misconception the American public had of what modern warfare really was.
it to me illustrates the huge misconception the American public had of what modern warfare really was.
wasnt his son an officer. i know he was with the big red one in wwii but i think he was also in wwi
I understand that there will be no Treaty of Versailles event. If there is, then it should be countered by some sort of Treaty for the Central Powers.
Is there a Brest-Litovsk event?
Would would be the equivalent event for dealing with a defeated Britain and France?
I've read parts of Fischer's 'Germany's War Aims' and it proves that Germany aimed at the creation of Mitteleuropa, a German dominated trade area (European Union in 2003 surely?), with Belgium being annexed, as well as various British naval ports around the world, including HK, Aden, Gib., the Falklands being ceded to Germany. There was also the concept of Mittelafrika with the Congo, Northern Rhodesia and so on being annexed.
Either that, or the game can go on until one country annexes or enpuppets the enemy.
Is there a Brest-Litovsk event?
Would would be the equivalent event for dealing with a defeated Britain and France?
I've read parts of Fischer's 'Germany's War Aims' and it proves that Germany aimed at the creation of Mitteleuropa, a German dominated trade area (European Union in 2003 surely?
), with Belgium being annexed, as well as various British naval ports around the world, including HK, Aden, Gib., the Falklands being ceded to Germany. There was also the concept of Mittelafrika with the Congo, Northern Rhodesia and so on being annexed.Either that, or the game can go on until one country annexes or enpuppets the enemy.
I think this would make a good "colour" event:
Country = Argentina Date = 1916 Condition = Argentina is not at war with either the Allies or the Central Powers.
Effect: Shift Argentina's alignment/war entry status slightly in favour of Britain.
In 1916, Britain arranged to buy a large number of mules from Argentina, to be used to equip the army they were sending to Iraq. However, Germany's top secret agent in Argentina, Herr Arnold, heard of this and managed to infect and kill 200 of the mules with anthrax spores concealed in sugar lumps. (The anthrax had been smuggled into the country by the French-born mistress of a German diplomat in Buenos Aires.) The plan backfired when the British Admiralty's code-breaking section discovered the plot, and the British ambassador arranged an audience with the Argentine President Irigoyen to demonstrate the anthrax-infected sugar lumps to him. This helped sway Argentina's neutral stance over towards sympathy with the Allies.
And yes, it's a true story.
Country = Argentina Date = 1916 Condition = Argentina is not at war with either the Allies or the Central Powers.
Effect: Shift Argentina's alignment/war entry status slightly in favour of Britain.
In 1916, Britain arranged to buy a large number of mules from Argentina, to be used to equip the army they were sending to Iraq. However, Germany's top secret agent in Argentina, Herr Arnold, heard of this and managed to infect and kill 200 of the mules with anthrax spores concealed in sugar lumps. (The anthrax had been smuggled into the country by the French-born mistress of a German diplomat in Buenos Aires.) The plan backfired when the British Admiralty's code-breaking section discovered the plot, and the British ambassador arranged an audience with the Argentine President Irigoyen to demonstrate the anthrax-infected sugar lumps to him. This helped sway Argentina's neutral stance over towards sympathy with the Allies.
And yes, it's a true story.
That's good! It'd be quite fun for the person playing as Argentina, contemplating whether to join the Entente or the Central Powers, to be suddenly confronted by this mules-poisened-by-anthrax story - probably the only event that can be thought up for Argentina.
I wonder how the increasing dissent inside the warfaring nations would be modelled. IRL as the war dragged on, Germany, France but especially Austria-Hungary and Russia were ravaged by strikes, riots etc. which led essentially to governments falling in Germany, A-H and Russia in 1917/18.
Maybe some sort of yearly event that rises dissent as long as no decisive gains were made?
Example: year = 1915, GER does not occupy Paris or Petrograd
--> dissent rises +10%
Just my 2 cents.
Maybe some sort of yearly event that rises dissent as long as no decisive gains were made?
Example: year = 1915, GER does not occupy Paris or Petrograd
--> dissent rises +10%
Just my 2 cents.
The idea of Home Rule was abandoned because of the outbreak of war, so it would seem sensible in my mind to trigger a Home Rule event if Britain does not join the Entente, and delay it if they do.
If Home Rule is selected, I think an independent Ireland (with military access to the UK) should appear but Ulster should emerge as a 'new nation' a la India in the standard HOI in the territory of Belfast, as I do recall the Unionists claim that they were going to fight for independence if Home Rule was granted to Dublin.
Then again, the player is always given the choice of choosing what actually happened, namely, the Irish Free State with Northern Ireland as part of the UK.
Just thoughts that suddenly occurred to me, but I think it's best that better informed Irish folk do these events.
Are there enough country tags to have an independent Ulster?
As an alternative, you could have the following sequence of events:
Britain grants Home Rule: Ireland becomes independent.
Ireland is now faced with an event: cede Ulster back to Britain, or face crippling unrest, infrastructure damage in the northern province, etc.
The Unionists were not only saying they would fight, but they were being supplied with arms by Germany! In April 1914 25,000 rifles were smuggled into the country illegally...
As an alternative, you could have the following sequence of events:
Britain grants Home Rule: Ireland becomes independent.
Ireland is now faced with an event: cede Ulster back to Britain, or face crippling unrest, infrastructure damage in the northern province, etc.
The Unionists were not only saying they would fight, but they were being supplied with arms by Germany! In April 1914 25,000 rifles were smuggled into the country illegally...
There are a lot of left-over tags for additional countries, at least over 20, and probably more than so.
/Johan
/Johan
Indepent Northern ireland is a good idea im making a revolt file right now and will include them (U20 OK?) and i suppose a flag will be needed so
yeah cant do images so i guess a link will do
http://members.tripod.com/andrewgallagher/ireland_flags/ulster.html
i perfer the white background so if burris wants to make it may he do so. im no artist so i unable do this.
edit heres a white one http://home.12move.nl/~sh829487/engelandkunde/flags.htm
yeah cant do images so i guess a link will do
http://members.tripod.com/andrewgallagher/ireland_flags/ulster.html
i perfer the white background so if burris wants to make it may he do so. im no artist so i unable do this.
edit heres a white one http://home.12move.nl/~sh829487/engelandkunde/flags.htm
Carson or Craig as head of state/government?
Chief of Staff would surely have to be Sir Hubert Gough, especially when one considers the Curragh mutiny.
Sir John French was an Ulsterman but he doesn't seem the rebellious type.
Chief of Staff would surely have to be Sir Hubert Gough, especially when one considers the Curragh mutiny.
Sir John French was an Ulsterman but he doesn't seem the rebellious type.
Does anyone know of any plot by the German's to instigate rebellion in India to draw away English strength from the Western Front?
I have vague recollections of hearing/reading about this but can't recall. It went something like this:
The Germans were going to ship a good supply of weapons and ammunition to some separtist group, but some petty bureaucrat in some neutral country became a little to interested and put a stop to it...guess he wasn't bribed enough.
If this is true it would make a pretty cool event for three countries.
Germany loose some supplies to instigate a rebellion in India
Britain be annoyed with a rebellion in India
third country gets a chance to let the plan succeed or intervene.
I have vague recollections of hearing/reading about this but can't recall. It went something like this:
The Germans were going to ship a good supply of weapons and ammunition to some separtist group, but some petty bureaucrat in some neutral country became a little to interested and put a stop to it...guess he wasn't bribed enough.
If this is true it would make a pretty cool event for three countries.
Germany loose some supplies to instigate a rebellion in India
Britain be annoyed with a rebellion in India
third country gets a chance to let the plan succeed or intervene.
Wilhelm II commented on the outbreak of war: 'if they attack us, they shall at least lose India'
The Kaiser had made himself the self styled leader of the muslim world on various visits to Turkey, and in 1914 promised to 'unleash the fury of the muslim world' against Britain.
Didn't seem to quite work...
The Kaiser had made himself the self styled leader of the muslim world on various visits to Turkey, and in 1914 promised to 'unleash the fury of the muslim world' against Britain.
Didn't seem to quite work...