Flagmakers : VIP seeks your help

[Herr Doctor]

Btw. May be you will like it. Made it long time ago: Italian flag in case if Italy formed by the Two Sicilias (Bourbons). You can see the idea was following: similar to the traditional Savoyard Italy flag, but with simply dynastical coa of the Sicilian Bourbons (traditional fleur-de-lis in red frame). IMO looks quite stylish

 

[mumia]

@ Herr Doctor

Polish Constitution from 1980 tells:

"(...) Barwami Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej są kolory biały i czerwony, ułożone w dwóch poziomych, równoległych pasach tej samej szerokości, z których górny jest koloru białego, a dolny koloru czerwonego. (...) przy umieszczaniu barw Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej w układzie pionowym kolor biały umieszcza się po lewej stronie płaszczyzny oglądanej z przodu."

- it means:

'Colors of the Republic of Poland are white and red in two horizontal, parallel stripes of equal width, of which the top one is white and the bottom one is red.'
and
The same article further specifies that if the colors are displayed vertically, the white stripe is placed on the left from the onlooker's viewpoint. examples:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/6/62/D20052000_Page_08.png
and
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/PL_Sejm_hall.jpg

p.s. No offense... I just really like that flags

 

[Herr Doctor]

@ Herr Doctor

Polish Constitution from 1980 tells:

"(...) Barwami Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej są kolory biały i czerwony, ułożone w dwóch poziomych, równoległych pasach tej samej szerokości, z których górny jest koloru białego, a dolny koloru czerwonego. (...) przy umieszczaniu barw Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej w układzie pionowym kolor biały umieszcza się po lewej stronie płaszczyzny oglądanej z przodu."

- it means:

'Colors of the Republic of Poland are white and red in two horizontal, parallel stripes of equal width, of which the top one is white and the bottom one is red.'
and
The same article further specifies that if the colors are displayed vertically, the white stripe is placed on the left from the onlooker's viewpoint. examples:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/6/62/D20052000_Page_08.png
and
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/PL_Sejm_hall.jpg

p.s. No offense... I just really like that flags

sure, but in fact it supposed to be in usual Vicky projection: speaking Photoshop language, you rotate flag canvas when making Vicky shields on 90° CW, not 90° CCW… I believe you got the point: it is just odd that only Polish flags are made to fit some “exceptional” rules.

 

[mumia]

sure, but in fact it supposed to be in usual Vicky projection: speaking Photoshop language, you rotate flag canvas when making Vicky shields on 90° CW, not 90° CCW… I believe you got the point: it is just odd that only Polish flags are made to fit some “exceptional” rules.

I rotate all other flags on 90° CW because I don't know Constitutions of every country over the world ... on Polish Paradox games forum called EUFI were "few" complaints about wrong rotation of various Polish flags so I've decided to make first according to every laws and wishes Polish flag with correct colours and rotation. Eagle on monarch flag is placed horizontal just because I think that on plane one-coloured flag symbol looks better in that rotation, that's all. I've made many flags that way and I don't think it have to be changed.

 

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@ Herr Doctor

Polish Constitution from 1980 tells:

"(...) Barwami Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej są kolory biały i czerwony, ułożone w dwóch poziomych, równoległych pasach tej samej szerokości, z których górny jest koloru białego, a dolny koloru czerwonego. (...) przy umieszczaniu barw Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej w układzie pionowym kolor biały umieszcza się po lewej stronie płaszczyzny oglądanej z przodu."

- it means:

'Colors of the Republic of Poland are white and red in two horizontal, parallel stripes of equal width, of which the top one is white and the bottom one is red.'
and
The same article further specifies that if the colors are displayed vertically, the white stripe is placed on the left from the onlooker's viewpoint. examples:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/6/62/D20052000_Page_08.png
and
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/PL_Sejm_hall.jpg

p.s. No offense... I just really like that flags

What you say about the hoisting of the vertical flag is right

But this applies to all flags, also (not only for the Polish one):

Znamierowski, Alfred (a compatriot of you): Flaggen Enzyklopädie

Wenn eine Flagge senkrecht von einem Flaggstock mit Kreuzstab gehängt wird, befindet sich die Oberkante der Flagge auf der linken Seite des Betrachters,... .

Translation into English:
Is a flag hanging vertically on a flagstaff with a crossstaff, the top edge of the flag is for the viewer on the left side,... .

So if you turn the polished shields than you have to do that with the shields of all countries, too. (I think that little mistake of the paradox-team is not so bad that such great effort to correct this is necessary.)

 

[mumia]

So if you turn the polished shields than you have to do that with the shields of all countries, too. (I think that little mistake of the paradox-team is not so bad that such great effort to correct this is necessary.)

You have to really don't like me I've made only one exception for one not-existed in VIP country like Poland. Forgive me I've made it for my country. If I had much more (really much more) time I could make all flags in correct rotation. I think I could finish that project in 2009 or 2010 when I'd found all needed source flags, but then it will be (I hope) Victoria 2 and every works on Victoria could be hold.

 

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You have to really don't like me I've made only one exception for one not-existed in VIP country like Poland. Forgive me I've made it for my country. If I had much more (really much more) time I could make all flags in correct rotation. I think I could finish that project in 2009 or 2010 when I'd found all needed source flags, but then it will be (I hope) Victoria 2 and every works on Victoria could be hold.

Perhaps if we work together we could finished this work in one year (of course we work on through the nights - sleeping is only for lazy ones) ...

 

[mumia]

Perhaps if we work together we could finished this work in one year (of course we work on through the nights - sleeping is only for lazy ones) ...

I love to sleep
p.s. I should go back to work in photoshop.

 

[Sling Shot]

You people are confusing me.

Mumia, is the rotation on your avatar the correct one?

 

[mumia]

You people are confusing me.

Mumia, is the rotation on your avatar the correct one?

NO! but the correct one is for Indonesia in avatar section... someday I'll be able to change it to something better.
p.s. I think we should stop that off-topic.

 

[Herr Doctor]

Perhaps if we work together we could finished this work in one year (of course we work on through the nights - sleeping is only for lazy ones) ...

Well, dudes, in fact it is not that hard to do it. Just take your ready flags and rotate them horizontally

EDIT: Additionally you will need to replace the four shields view, and this is not very easy in fact

 

[mumia]

OK, next part of flags:

Syria - U10:

1. Communist - that flag in VIP is flag of Aramea, region of Syria.



2. Fascist - missed in VIP



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Lebanon - U11:

1. Fascist - flag of Lebanese Phalange (Kataeb) Party, Christian party founded in 1936. If it is for Christian Lebanon it could be also good for earlier times.



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Persia:

1. Communist - flag of Soviet Republic of Gilan (1920-1921), by Herr Doctor

 

[Herr Doctor]

Made several other additional small modification, if you like them.

Hungarian monarchy flag. The traditional banner of the Arpad House, used later as the symbol of the Magyar monarchy. It is used even today by the monarchist and conservative movements of Hungary. I like it much coz it is looks really so special.
http://www.fotw.net/flags/hu_king.html#arpad

The Danish Royal flag in appropriate proportions.
http://www.fotw.net/flags/dk-royal.html#queen

The correct Norwegian monarchy standard.
http://www.fotw.net/flags/no-royal.html

And fixed Norwegian nazi flag…
http://www.fotw.net/flags/no-hmflg.html
http://digilander.libero.it/breschirob/norvegia.html

 

[mumia]

1. I think that Hungarian flag is too small (shield would be invisible in game) and too old (9th. Cent. - 1301). We still should use current flag, also too old (1301-1382) or use flag of Kingdom of Hungary (1867 - 1945) - actual base flag.

2. Monarch Danmark - Should be added.

3. Monarch Norway - Should be added.

4. Fascist Norway - I've made that flag in correct shape:

 

[Herr Doctor]

1. I think that Hungarian flag is too small (shield would be invisible in game) and too old (9th. Cent. - 1301). We still should use current flag, also too old (1301-1382) or use flag of Kingdom of Hungary (1867 - 1945) - actual base flag.

It is almost the same as Nepalese in proportions. And as I said it was used later too as one of the monarchy symbols and sometimes even nowadays. Check this “modification” for example (regarding proportions):
http://www.fotw.net/flags/hu.html#hist
Alternative it could be made in ordinary shape: just red-white-red-white stripes of the Arpads (without the odd fleur-de-lis of the Anjou as at the present variant in VIP).

4. Fascist Norway - I've made that flag in correct shape:

Great!

 

[mumia]

Hyderabad:

1. Base flag - historical flag from 1724 to 1900



2. Monarchy



3. Republic



4. Fascist

 

[OHgamer]

Have added through HYD flags for next hotfix.

 

[mumia]

Slovakia:

Republic - flag included in VIP is actually flag of Slovenia. I have two propositions:
1. Historical flag of Slovakia 1848-1868 and 1919-1938:


- looks like modern Russian flag but could be used because Russia has no that flag in VIP in any type of government (only flag named "rus1883.bmp")
or
2. Modern well known flag of Slovakia in correct colours:



Slovenia:

Republic flag with corrected proportions:

 

[mumia]

Denmark:

Republic



Holkar-Sindhia:

New versions of base and republic flag with correct shape:

1. Base flag



2. Republic



Ireland:

1. Base flag - corrected proportions



2. Monarchy - corrected proportions

 

[mumia]

Rajputana:

1. Base flag - corrected proportions



2. Monarchy - historical triangular flag



3. Communist



Atjeh:

1. Base flag - corrected proportions



2. Fascist