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Yeah, but it'd be weird to let them post stuff about it unless an announcement was somewhat close.
Why? Only a minority of potential EU5-players watch streamers, and an even smaller minority know about the Tinto talks. It wouldn't be strange in this era of digital decentralized marketing to allow streamers to talk about the game without doing a public announcement.
 
This is where I'm at now too. I'm trying to remember what lead up there was to Vic3 and honestly I can't remember much, except that there was a pre-announcement a little while in advance. Since we haven't seen one, I'm thinking this week simply ain't happening. Perhaps next. But I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong.
It was announced at PDXCON, so the lead up was the lead up to the event itself.
But I can't remember if they opened the subforum and started posting teasers there and on twitter, I know they did for Imperator, and I think for CK3 too.
 
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Given the hype, and the fact that in some message there was a picture of a church in Sitges. Which gets more pilgrims, the church or Tinto HQ? Quite likely only one of them lets pilgrims in, but do fans go to Sitges just to take a selfie outside the Tinto building?
 
I think the "this week" thing was a meme from the fact the youtubers went last weekned.

I am still on hopium that it will be this month due to Ludis comments in his deleted video about "having lots of eu5 content in the channel in a month". But we'll see.



Playing devils advocate (as im in the hopium train), the visit from the YouTubers could have been a first meet up to show them the studio and maybe even the game, and especially as a first meeting to organize a future event. Like videos, announcement, post announcement stuff. But that does not mean it would be imminent. They might have formed a work group to start working on announcement and post announcement several months ahead of it.
Most of these content creators have jobs and families and lives outside of making YouTube content. Additionally, it's not uncommon that the studio foots the bill for accommodations and airfare for events like this (at least, other studios often do it.) The closed event in Stiges was almost certainly a one-off thing.

I find it beyond unlikely that paradox would pay to fly all these folks out just to arrange future discussions and form a work group. They almost certainly got a hands-on session with eu5, time with the devs, and information on announcements so that they can prepare "first look" videos. Anything less would just be an email or a MS Teams meeting.
 
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Welcome to the world of $100 base price for games, plus an endless stream of $50 DLCs.
Hope they announce their DLC policy beforehand, and stick to their announcement. I don't want to get hooked on something I can't afford. It's easier not to buy in the first place than not to buy the DLCs once hooked on the game. Guess they're well aware of such addictions and use them.
 
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Most of these content creators have jobs and families and lives outside of making YouTube content. Additionally, it's not uncommon that the studio foots the bill for accommodations and airfare for events like this (at least, other studios often do it.) The closed event in Stiges was almost certainly a one-off thing.

I find it beyond unlikely that paradox would pay to fly all these folks out just to arrange future discussions and form a work group. They almost certainly got a hands-on session with eu5, time with the devs, and information on announcements so that they can prepare "first look" videos. Anything less would just be an email or a MS Teams meeting.


Could be either. I have seen videos from these youtubers ever since they went, and either they are very good actors, or they have not played the game in Sitges.
 
Basically PDX had a bunch of YouTubers come out to the Tinto studios last week, probably to play the game, possibly to record videos for it (though that's mostly conjecture). Also Johan has announced he's going to be too busy the next few weeks to do the Dev Diaries, so people are hoping that it's a sign of an imminent announcement, with the streamers being allowed to upload gameplay and show the game off at the same time or shortly thereafter.
With all due respect, you don't invite those players just to playtest the game in person. This is if you want to provide a teaser for YouTube. I do think something like this may be imminent, albeit not necessarily this week lol
 
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With all due respect, you don't invite those players just to playtest the game in person. This is if you want to provide a teaser for YouTube. I do think something like this may be imminent, albeit not necessarily this week lol
With all due respect, you can absolutely fly in some influencers just to playtest and prepare for future cooperation. It's not particularly expensive to fly people to a certain location (especially seeing as many EU4 steamers live in Europe), and a reasonably big company like Paradox isn't on a tight budget with regards to marketing.
 
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With all due respect, you can absolutely fly in some influencers just to playtest and prepare for future cooperation. It's not particularly expensive to fly people to a certain location (especially seeing as many EU4 steamers live in Europe), and a reasonably big company like Paradox isn't on a tight budget with regards to marketing.
This wouldn't be budgeted under marketing in that case, since you claim it's possible no public-facing product results from it. Their bottom line can handle it, but I don't believe it's plausible they would do this just to build rapport they already have with most of them.
 
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With all due respect, you can absolutely fly in some influencers just to playtest and prepare for future cooperation. It's not particularly expensive to fly people to a certain location (especially seeing as many EU4 steamers live in Europe), and a reasonably big company like Paradox isn't on a tight budget with regards to marketing.
I agree, especially with the future cooperation part. My opinion is that the announcement is still weeks or even months away and streamers will be part of the hype-up that leads to it. Also I wouldn't be surprised if some of them would cover more tinto talks from now on in their channels than before (didn't check all of them, but after a quick check on Ludi I can see that he doesn't always cover all of them). I'm expecting that they are already preparing the announcement, but I wouldn't expect it to happen this month, that would be kind of "out of nowhere" even with the teasing we got recently. Maybe one of the upcoming dev diaries will end with "Next week/two weeks from now we will have something special for you guys, stay tuned" and I would expect the streamers to drop videos about it at least one week before (like "Paradox is up to something" title with youtuber face thumbnail).
 
They will surprise us with a full open beta <3
Have faith
What do you all think about beta testing?
Do we have a chance for it anytime soon, or closer to the release?

Would it ease our soul-piercing pain or make things worse?
I think I’d feel a bit better if I could try out those awesome systems I’m waiting for so eagerly. Even if the tests were limited to just one country and a few years of gameplay.
 
What do you all think about beta testing?
Do we have a chance for it anytime soon, or closer to the release?

Would it ease our soul-piercing pain or make things worse?
I think I’d feel a bit better if I could try out those awesome systems I’m waiting for so eagerly. Even if the tests were limited to just one country and a few years of gameplay.

Not saying this just because i want to play this game badly, but I truly believe that after the latest few fiascos, it has become clear that Dev Diaries are not enough to see if a game is good or not, and we should have an "open" closed beta at least.

I can see that they may choose not to and risk it with another "blind" release, given V3's leak from the beta. Or it may be that that's what Youtubers went to do. They won't have an "open" closed beta but they will give access to the game to trusted members of the community such as Youtubers and big modders and get feedback from them. Its riskier as it is a smaller sample (and sort of biased) but at least you risk no leak.

I am still hoping they do one beta. Johan said they might, but that was months ago so they may very well have changed their opinion.

From Johan's words from the feedback TTs, it is inferred that they have already some sort of testing that did not only include developers.
 
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I think it’s really hard to judge from the outside whether there will be an open beta and whether a beta would even be useful. For the beta to actually help improve the 1.0 release, there needs to be structure to the beta program, a systematic way of gathering feedback, and rather specific input that the devs wish to gain from players.

All that is a lot of work and I wouldn’t be surprised if the team concluded that it’s more efficient to not have an open beta and keep working on the game internally (w/ partially outsourced QA of course). The V3 beta leak is also in recent memory.

Still, who wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to test this early.
 
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