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I do think the game is further along than the 26ers would guess. they saw bad UI and lacking optimisation and assumed that would take a year to fix. I do think that they should polish this game as much as possible before releasing it, though obviously there will still be bugs. I dont mind certain countries having less/no flavour than others as this is sure to be perfected in DLC, but core features should all work as intended. its already better than VIC3 which has so little flavour, and had virtually none at launch
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The major problem I had with the UI before wasn't really the artistry, it was how much wasted space there was. EU4's UI - while often obtuse - is relatively compact so you can easily see more of the screen, whereas EU5 made the game looked cramped from how much space the various menus and UI elements took up, and most of that space was just negative space where no useful information was displayed.
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So it's unfinished if there are some issues with UI, balancing and flavor events.
And you really think you'll get them to stop complaining by demanding the game to be released now? Or by writing that you don't care at all about some non European tags?
People don't want "a more polished game before they play", they want a more polished game on release day. That's the difference. No one of us will just wait a month after release to play it and you know that. All of us will install and play it as soon as possible. And that's why we want the game to be in the best shape possible for that wonderful occasion.
And it's not that those people "make you suffer". It will be released when devs/company executives say so, not you, me or anyone else. Their decision may be influenced by fear of negative reviews (especially after I:R and Vic3) but that's only a good thing. Whether you like it or not - reviews matter. Whether you agree with it or not - player's first impression matters.
I am more concerned that game will have a rough start and will risk being a financial failure because some guy was impatient like a kid who ate the cake just before the birthday party, because "he couldn't suffer waiting".
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I want the game asap however i want the game to be ready for the day when I get my hands on it. No point rushing release when not everything is ready, this game likely will be upkept and developed for years and years after release, only a poor release with poor reviews/player reception could damage that. We do not want another Imperator Rome situation (i think this is incredibly unlikely tho consider Vic3)
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Maybe... we didn't see the youtubers playing the actual game version. Maybe they played a future version...
Just think about it...
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As someone who is a Paradox fan, is now working at Paradox, and currently able to play EU5 freely. I personally disagree.
Same as with any game in development, there are a plethora of things that require polish, tweaking, fixing, etc.
Is the game "Playable"? Yes, like Johan has said it's technically been "playable" for a long while. But playable =/= ready for release. I suspect many would ask us "Why would you release it in such a state" if we decided to release it on a whim, rightfully so.
Do I expect a perfect release? No, there's always things we don't catch or things that require more tweaks. With a game as complex and content filled as EUV that applies even more so. I believe a "Release when we are ready" policy works a lot better regardless.
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In a perfect world I'd tend to agree with Rule Britannia, i.e, release the game as is warning it IS an unfinished product and fix as it goes. But that is basically an EA, and while I (and I suspect, a lot of other people) am able to grasp that, I do understand for the overall marketing it could (and most likely, would) go desastrously with people holding the game to a higher standard than an EA would warrant. And indeed, no amount of disclaimer could avoid that, and long term, it WOULD mean a worse game as the initial bad press would mean less commands, and less money on the long run to support the game.
So basically it is annoying but I don't see any realistic way to get anything better, so I just hope PDX gets the time needed to do a good product.
So basically it is annoying but I don't see any realistic way to get anything better, so I just hope PDX gets the time needed to do a good product.
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It make sense to release when the game is ready but atleast we can have another saturday buildings or something like that
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Firstly, so jealous that you can play EUV when you want. Secondly, the problem is that by showing us the game, not in the form of TT’s but in the form of actual gameplay videos, you have essentially reduced EUIV to a pale imitation that at least I am unable to enjoy as before. I think you made a mistake in doing the announcement without a release date. You are not even giving us a continuous supply of new gameplay videos to tide us over until release, meaning we are stuck rewatching the same videos ad infernitum. The best analogy is a drug dealer giving addicts a taste of a new super drug, getting them hooked, and then saying, I will let you know in future when you can get more.
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Its all well and good for you having access and playing it already <insert_cry_emoji_here>
But you are right it's better to wait for a game to be how the devs want it to be for us at the end of the day. As one of the people who was beyond hyped, a lot of it has kinda vanished as it looked that the Game Release or Game Release Announcement felt imminent. With the streamer footage and things they said like, "Optimisation takes place at the end of the game dev cycle and that's the stage they are in"
Then the release of the OST a month or two after with a massive ramp up of map updates and flavour, it seemed primed for a release very soon TM. And this probably has lead to some disappointment from ones here.
In saying that, keep doing what yous do. The game looks absolutely amazing. I can't wait to get the super special extreme deluxe special edition. And when its ready (hopefully this year) i am going to absolutely no life it. Thanks again for everything! And RENAME IRISH TO GAELIC CULTURE PLEASE
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Agree with this completely, except we didn't even get to try the drug, we just watched other people get high and talk about getting high.
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Its all well and good for you having access and playing it already <insert_cry_emoji_here>
But you are right it's better to wait for a game to be how the devs want it to be for us at the end of the day. As one of the people who was beyond hyped, a lot of it has kinda vanished as it looked that the Game Release or Game Release Announcement felt imminent. With the streamer footage and things they said like, "Optimisation takes place at the end of the game dev cycle and that's the stage they are in"
Then the release of the OST a month or two after with a massive ramp up of map updates and flavour, it seemed primed for a release very soon TM. And this probably has lead to some disappointment from ones here.
In saying that, keep doing what yous do. The game looks absolutely amazing. I can't wait to get the super special extreme deluxe special edition. And when its ready (hopefully this year) i am going to absolutely no life it. Thanks again for everything! And RENAME IRISH TO GAELIC CULTURE PLEASE
Thanks for the support!
I understand the frustration with things like OST and Content Creator videos going out followed by nothing. Though sadly I can't comment on it.
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Ill be honest EU5 is of no importance to me anymore, the release prediction game and religious wars of the scriptures of Johan are the main event for me now, I will be sad at release that we won't be able to speculate wildly and make insane claims.
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I'd be really interested in knowing what happened there at some point in the future, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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