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Expanding the list of options:
- Undead - Blight and decay. The pure necromancer experience.
- Infernal Fiends - Fire and brimstone. Glorious chaos. The iconic deal with the devil.
- Accursed Fiend - Ghostfire galore.
- Umbral Demons - Lovecraft-lite. Dark deals, flesh magics, and corruption.
- Ethereal - Lovecraft-brite. Astral beings and cosmic power. For astral wisps, siphoners, serpents, etc.
- Fey - Fairy curses and trickery.
- Celestial - For "good" aligned warlocks. Unleash divine curses upon your enemies.
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Personally I strongly disagree with Fey and Celestials. I'm on the fence on Ethereals. This is the 'dark' caster. If you want a Fey-style character, go with the Ritualist. If you want a Celestial-adjecent character, go with Battlesaint.
In the end though I feel they should focus on Infernal Fiends and Undead. Mainly because the more complicated it is the less likely it probably is that the devs will implement it. But also because I feel that Infernal Fiends are the most common type of summoned creature for dark casters in fantasy, besides undead.
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Hummm but perhaps demonologist can be an other class, in the futur.
With skill different than warlock; like transform hitself to deamon, or i do not know; something else but something very different than just "warlock skills with demons summoner skills".
This is why i respond "why not" on your idea; but it's also a "perhaps this is not a good idea"...
With skill different than warlock; like transform hitself to deamon, or i do not know; something else but something very different than just "warlock skills with demons summoner skills".
This is why i respond "why not" on your idea; but it's also a "perhaps this is not a good idea"...
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I'd personally skinny this down to:
- Undead
- Fiend
- Fey
Umbral Demons and Accursed Fiends are too specific IMO for a Hero Class
Celestial - I think they should throw this into Ritualist as the new Light Elemental and let Ritualist be Plants and Light
Ethereal - I see this as close enough to the storm elemental summon in Elementalist so as not to need to be replicated in Warlock.
Ritualist is not nearly the same as Warlock or Elementalist from a functionality perspective; they don't have any real aggressive abilities and even their 'aggrssive' channel is about healing through their attacks, so that isn't a real alternative IMO.
Who says that Warlock has to be pigeonholed into Chaos and Shadow Affinity themes as the 'dark' caster anyway? Why can't they be the debuff caster and fit into a broader range of themes?
I do agree with you that I do not think all themes are appropriate, like celestial. Nor do I think there should be more than, about, 3 options.
I partly want the celestial warlock option because of D&D Celestial warlocks, but also partly because I want to make a PF2e oracle inspired character revolving around inflicting divine curses upon the unholy.
The fey option is also for leaning into the dark side of fey as opposed to the nature side of fey. Revolving around the archetypical vengeful fey curse or rules-lawyered agreement. I can imagine a blood pact going, "You pledged to protect me with your life. I will take your life force to save myself."
Choose battle saint or ritualist if you want healing and buff abilities. You go warlock if you want to inflict curses or make blood pacts.
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I want a skill to bring back the wisp familiar and conjure other astral creatures.
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