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Hi guys

Haven't been on this forum for a good while due to other problems in my life but I did start playing EU2 again a week or so ago. I am playing EU2v1.07bBETA Nov 24 2003. I know there are newer versions but I am familiar with this one and don't care for some of the alterations I have heard have been made to newer versions.

Here's the problem. Have been playing along for a week or so, a couple of different games. All of a sudden today when the game went to attempt to autosave it locked up and I received a "R6025 Runtime Error pure virtual function call" It also says VISUAL C + + Runtime Error and that evidently the problem is somewhere in Program Files\Strategy First\Europa Universalis 2\EU2.exe.

Here is what I did to attempt to fix. After restarting computer I restarted the game and tried to load the game that was supposedly autosaved. This did not work, computer simply froze up during "Reading Scenario". Then I tried reloading a previous saved game, which it did, and let it run for a couple of months and then tried to save game--I could not save, got the same R60025 Error message and lockup when I tried to save.

Then I went into my system and made sure my paging file was set high enough (it was, 477MB). I also deleted a whole mess of saved games that I had hoping that might help. I tried saving a game again and still got the Runtime Error.

Oh, by the way, I am running XP Pro and have had no major problems with EU2 before this so I thought that if there was some system problem I might be able to fix things by going back to one of the Restore points. I went back to one from 4 days ago when I knew for sure that I had played EU2 with no problems but when I tried to restore the computer said it could not restore because no changes had been made to the system.

So what, if anything, can I do to fix this? I haven't had problems with any of my other programs (at least so far). In any case, a Windows reinstall is not a viable solution as, alas, I have no discs to do this. Also, don't know if I could reinstall EU2 to the Beta version that I currently have. If you guys remember me, I had problems getting patches to work.

Anyone have any suggestions on fixing this? By the way, the game itself seems to run fine, I just can't save or autosave anything, which in essence, makes it useless!!

Please help.

Ron
 
Castellon said:
I think you will find that it is not an EU2 problem and that other of your programs will suffer as well, depending on which ones you use.
Possibley 1 of your Windows DLLs have become corupt.
See this thread for details. It is the only one in 4 years of posts that has reported the same error as you.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159779&highlight=virtual
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Actually, further playing around seems to indicate that it is a specific problem within EU2. The save game and autosave will not work in the "America's Dream" scenario, failing in 1813 and 1814. I tried other scenarios, i.e., the Grand Campaign, Age of Mercantilism, and Age of Revolution and both the save and autosave does work. :confused: And as I stated originally, I seem to have no problems with any of my other programs.

Not knowing much about computer language, is it possible that the Windows DLL that reads this one particular part of EU2 is corrupt? Anyone have any other thoughts?

I think I'm going to try and play a game as the United States in Age of Revolution and run it quickly up to the point in time where the game won't save in America's Dream and see what happens. Might prove interesting.

Ron
 
If you think it's the game then I advise a complete uninstall of it, defrag your hard disk, then reinstall EU2 plus 1.07 immediately.
 
AndrewT said:
If you think it's the game then I advise a complete uninstall of it, defrag your hard disk, then reinstall EU2 plus 1.07 immediately.
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Yes, I'm pretty sure there must be something wrong with the game. I just started the Age of Revolution as the United States as I said I was going to do, slowed the speed down, and three times crashed to desktop in September 1774, although the January autosave worked and the game let me save when I tried to in May. The fourth time I loaded the game it would not load--I got a critical error message saying something to the effect that Province 3 is indicated as owned by Russia but has no controller. :confused:

I think I'm going to have to uninstall. However, a few months ago I did save my complete game folder, Beta's and all to a CD. If I uninstall EU2, then defrag, can I reinstall the game in the configuration I want by simply running this CD? If so, then I wouldn't have to do any downloads, correct?

Ron
 
You could try just copying over from the CD.
 
Castellon said:
You could try just copying over from the CD.
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How do I get the version on the CD to overwrite the files already in my computer? I tried to just run the game from the CD and it won't start--when I try to open it it just lists all the files that are there but it won't run. If I copy the whole folder and send it to the desktop how do I get it to overwrite the corrupted game that I have? I really don't want to try to uninstall if I don't have to.

Ron
 
What Castellon meant was: Copy all files from the CD onto your harddrive and than install from your harddrive. :)
 
No, that is not what I meant, because the CD does not contain an installable version.

What you need to do is not copy the files to the desktop, copy the files to the folder that contains EU2, the computer will recognise that the files have the same name and ask you if you want to overwrite the existing ones.
Answer yes to all.
 
Castellon said:
No, that is not what I meant, because the CD does not contain an installable version.

What you need to do is not copy the files to the desktop, copy the files to the folder that contains EU2, the computer will recognise that the files have the same name and ask you if you want to overwrite the existing ones.
Answer yes to all.
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Okay, Castellon, thanks for advice. I just did what you suggested above and will now try to play a game and see if I have the same problems. Will report back one way or the other. Thanks again.

Ron
 
Great, let me know how it goes.
 
Castellon said:
Great, let me know how it goes.
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I just completed a game on the game reloaded from my November copy without any major problems, other than a couple of CTD's.

But there is something strange about this. I copied the game from the uncorrupted CD that I had made back in November as you suggested and sent it to Program Files. I was asked rather I wanted to overwrite and I said yes to all, as you said. However, I found that what actually happened is that somehow a duplicate (yet uncorrupted) version of the game was created in my hardrive with a slightly different address. The address of the original game is C: etc Strategy First\Europa Universalis 2. But the reload created another game with the address C: etc Strategy First\Europa Universalis 2\Strategy First\Europa Universalis 2. When I saw that this had happened I put a new shortcut to the reloaded uncorrupted game on my desktop and that is what I am using with no major problems so far.

However, now a couple of other questions arise. Can I uninstall the bad game folder with the original Strategy First game disc without affecting the second good game, or is it too risky to try? In the Add or Remove Programs window only one program entitled Europa Universalis 2 appears so I don't dare try removing it that way. Any ideas?

A second question. Can I make my own CD of the 1.08 version with current Betas by first copying the original game CD, then downloading the 1.08 patch and the Betas to the new CD instead of to the computer hard drive? That way, if I am thinking correctly, I could trial play the 1.08 version without disturbing the 1.07 that I am satisfied with. But if I do what I suggested above, running the game off the CD rather than the hard drive, is it possible to save games?

Ron
 
Remind me why you do not have an EU2 CD you can install from.
 
Castellon said:
Remind me why you do not have an EU2 CD you can install from.
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I do have an original EU2 CD that I purchased. I think I'm confusing you and others with my terminology. I have the original EU2 CD as sold, and also a CD that I made myself that copied the game as it was eventually installed and modified in my computer, i.e., version 1.07 Nov 26th 2003 Beta, copied from my hard drive before said game became corrupted. The game that was installed in my computer was the one that became corrupted and prompted this thread and which I corrected by following your advice and copying the CD I had made to my computer with the results I mentioned in my previous post. This enabled me to avoid uninstalling and reinstalling the entire game and downloading the 1.07 patches and Betas, if I could still find them.

So, what I was asking in my previous post was that if I used the uninstall that is on the original purchased CD I am afraid it would uninstall both EU2 games currently on my hard drive, the old corrupted one and the newly reloaded good one.

Also, my question about 1.08 meant that I wanted to try and copy the original purchased CD to my own CD (for my own purposes only, no intent to break copywrite laws) and then download the 1.08 patch and Beta's to that newly made CD. I would then have three CD's, an original as purchased, a version with 1.07 Nov Beta, and a version with 1.08 Beta. Would this work?

Ron
 
I would suggest this:
1) Make a folder and call it EU2Patches
2) Down load patch 1.07, 1.08 and any beta patches you want.
All of which can still be found on this board. If you cannot locate them let me know and I will provide links. This way you can reinstall when ever there is a problem or you want to try new things.
3) Wipe EU2 from your system.
4) Do a fresh install
5) Apply what ever patches you want to use.
 
Castellon said:
I would suggest this:
1) Make a folder and call it EU2Patches
2) Down load patch 1.07, 1.08 and any beta patches you want.
All of which can still be found on this board. If you cannot locate them let me know and I will provide links. This way you can reinstall when ever there is a problem or you want to try new things.
3) Wipe EU2 from your system.
4) Do a fresh install
5) Apply what ever patches you want to use.
Click to expand...

Thanks for advice.

Ron
 
If you cannot find the patch you want let me know.
 
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