ptan54 said:
This problem occurred to me some time ago, and afflicted all countries in the file, not just Eastern European ones. It's fixed, anyway.
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This problem occurred to me some time ago, and afflicted all countries in the file, not just Eastern European ones. It's fixed, anyway.
Problems
The treaty between Russia and Germany. Russia was forced to give up all territory west of Moscow including Lennigrad, all of finland, Minsk and much more I could list the all. That triggered event needs to be fixed. In the real treaty Lenin agreed to forfit nearly 1/4 of its total land.
Also, at the time in history if Paris fell the whole of France would fall. All the key objective points should be put into paris and no other providences.
Really France would be no more. France should be given totally to Germany, the Germans would expect nothing less!!
So the trigger of france retaining the southern part is unrealistic. At the very least they should have to cede all of africa and much of southern France to Italy if they are waring with them.
What is with multipule techs being useless
I have done much research for generals, and other things if the makers would like some help please contact me.
The treaty between Russia and Germany. Russia was forced to give up all territory west of Moscow including Lennigrad, all of finland, Minsk and much more I could list the all. That triggered event needs to be fixed. In the real treaty Lenin agreed to forfit nearly 1/4 of its total land.
Also, at the time in history if Paris fell the whole of France would fall. All the key objective points should be put into paris and no other providences.
Really France would be no more. France should be given totally to Germany, the Germans would expect nothing less!!
So the trigger of france retaining the southern part is unrealistic. At the very least they should have to cede all of africa and much of southern France to Italy if they are waring with them.
What is with multipule techs being useless
I have done much research for generals, and other things if the makers would like some help please contact me.
There is also a major problem with the resources being traded but not recieving what i'm trading for.
LanceBarrett82 said:
TGW's Treaty of Brest-Litovsk is based upon the actual Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. As is the ahistorical 'Treaty of Tilsit'.
LanceBarrett82 said:
Why? France would fall when its army had been destroyed, not when the capital was taken. I've made the events so that a country gives up when most of its home territory has been overrun, so it can be assumed that their armed forces have been destroyed in the process.
LanceBarrett82 said:
Germany retains Northern France if at war with Britain; the peace treaty comes later....
LanceBarrett82 said:
Most techs are pre-requisites for later techs. Furthermore, you're using an older version, so any tech problems that you are likely to raise will have been sorted out a long while ago.
LanceBarrett82 said:
What have you found, exactly?
If you mean that when at war, you only receive about 10% of the world market trades you expect to receive, that isn't even a bug. It's HoI WAD.
Poland would not have been created if it wasn't for the defeat of Germany, along with some of the other countries. So if Germany wins it should at least annex the Poland land. I do understand the fact of the other nations being created as a buffer zone perhaps.
In the treaty that Germany signed with Lenin inorder for the Russians to get out of the war gave the Germans just under 1/4 of the total Russian land. I looked it up in several History books. The treaty didn't call for the creation of Poland. That was the doing of the British, French, and Americans in the win over Germany.
I have found many pictures of the generals and willing to do any research that you have in mind. Just let me know.
When should we expect the next version??
In the treaty that Germany signed with Lenin inorder for the Russians to get out of the war gave the Germans just under 1/4 of the total Russian land. I looked it up in several History books. The treaty didn't call for the creation of Poland. That was the doing of the British, French, and Americans in the win over Germany.
I have found many pictures of the generals and willing to do any research that you have in mind. Just let me know.
When should we expect the next version??
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StephenT said:
Okay thank you.
Still it seems that in HOI I get the resources, but not in TGW. Maybe its just me. huh.
LanceBarrett82 said:
Poland, in the opinion of Germany and Austria-Hungary, already existed by the time of Brest-Litovsk. From November 1916, Poland was granted autonomy by the Central Powers amidst the senescence of Russian authority. In fact, by 1917, Archduke Karl Stephan had already been designated as Poland's King.
LanceBarrett82 said:
Apart from the most obscure things, research is done, although plenty of tech pictures would be appreciated. As for pictures of military leaders, we have ones of nearly all of the prominent ones, but if you have anyone we have missed out, then I'll be happy to have a look...
LanceBarrett82 said:When should we expect the next version??
When the sprites are finished.
will there be an updated version anytime soon??
Why would Germany do all that fighting in-order to gain no land?? On the eastern side.
Self determination was the U.S. Presidents Idea to form Latavia, Estonia, and Lithuania and many others.
Not perhaps German's view point.
Why would Germany do all that fighting in-order to gain no land?? On the eastern side.
Self determination was the U.S. Presidents Idea to form Latavia, Estonia, and Lithuania and many others.
Not perhaps German's view point.
I suggest that you read the Treaty of Brest Litovsk yourself here - http://www.lib.byu.edu/~rdh/wwi/1918/brestlitovsk.html
The Kaiser had no desire to annex Eastern Europe into Germany itself - he merely wanted Germany to be free of the "encirclement" that he had got himself into by creating a host of puppet states in Central Europe. Belgium is just about the only exception, as the OHL viewed it as a British/French landing ground from which to attack Germany. Maps tend to show what land Russia lost, but that does not correspond directly to the notion that all of this land ended up in Deutsches Reich. As the aim of TGW is to be historically accurate, no peace treaty that creates a Hitlerite Germany, stretching from the Rhine to the Urals, will be entertained.
Who says the only goal in war is land? Having a chain of puppet states in Central-Eastern Europe is far preferable to annexing them into Germany proper - policy makers would have a hard time convincing the Slavs and the Balts that they were in fact German. The OHL wanted to annex Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania into Germany as those states had a sizable Germany landowning minority, but the foreign office vetoed the motion, as it would be politically unfeasible. This is why there are events that allow for an option b "Annex" when Germany controls Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia as puppets.
Alternatively you can disable the defeat events and peace treaties - just delete the contents of defeat.txt and peacetreaty.txt - so you can go for annexation to your heart's desire.
Further requests for a Greater Germany in Eastern Europe will be ignored.
The Kaiser had no desire to annex Eastern Europe into Germany itself - he merely wanted Germany to be free of the "encirclement" that he had got himself into by creating a host of puppet states in Central Europe. Belgium is just about the only exception, as the OHL viewed it as a British/French landing ground from which to attack Germany. Maps tend to show what land Russia lost, but that does not correspond directly to the notion that all of this land ended up in Deutsches Reich. As the aim of TGW is to be historically accurate, no peace treaty that creates a Hitlerite Germany, stretching from the Rhine to the Urals, will be entertained.
Who says the only goal in war is land? Having a chain of puppet states in Central-Eastern Europe is far preferable to annexing them into Germany proper - policy makers would have a hard time convincing the Slavs and the Balts that they were in fact German. The OHL wanted to annex Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania into Germany as those states had a sizable Germany landowning minority, but the foreign office vetoed the motion, as it would be politically unfeasible. This is why there are events that allow for an option b "Annex" when Germany controls Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia as puppets.
Alternatively you can disable the defeat events and peace treaties - just delete the contents of defeat.txt and peacetreaty.txt - so you can go for annexation to your heart's desire.
Further requests for a Greater Germany in Eastern Europe will be ignored.
LanceBarrett82 said:
Oh I'm sure the Kaiser would have annexed small bits of Poland (maybe in Lithuania also) here and there, but it would be difficult to show in HOI with the size and placement of the provinces.
poland
I agree. a puppet- independent 'congress' like poland has been created during WWI (cf. something like Tiso's Slovakia in 1939), and some parts of Lithuania and poland would have been annexed if Germany would have won in 1918 - there is no way that if Germany would have won world war I that Poland would have been the size of Pilsudski's Poland in 1919. But how can you incorporate this kind of micro-managment into the game? Maybe instead of just option a) annex all and b) create puppet state also include an option c) create puppet state - limit annexation (thereby only annexing limited provinces of polish russia into Germany ; similar to Denmark giving up its southern enclave in HOI WWII to appease German demands...).
Any thoughts?
Shadow Knight said:
I agree. a puppet- independent 'congress' like poland has been created during WWI (cf. something like Tiso's Slovakia in 1939), and some parts of Lithuania and poland would have been annexed if Germany would have won in 1918 - there is no way that if Germany would have won world war I that Poland would have been the size of Pilsudski's Poland in 1919. But how can you incorporate this kind of micro-managment into the game? Maybe instead of just option a) annex all and b) create puppet state also include an option c) create puppet state - limit annexation (thereby only annexing limited provinces of polish russia into Germany ; similar to Denmark giving up its southern enclave in HOI WWII to appease German demands...).
Any thoughts?
Well, the way it's currently done is that Poland, on first being created, has the territory allocated to it by Germany. However, it has national claims on the areas of Ukraine and Lithuania annexed by Pilsudski, so it could, in threory, go to war to annex them.erhpdm said:
I recently installed TGW applying the 3rd July update followed by the 28th August update.
Most things seem to work fine except I have two Lundendorfs and two von Mackensens (a level 5 general and a level 4 FM in each case). What did I do wrong?
Does the 28 Aug update sepercede the 3 July update ie did applying both create this problem?.
Cheers.
Most things seem to work fine except I have two Lundendorfs and two von Mackensens (a level 5 general and a level 4 FM in each case). What did I do wrong?
Does the 28 Aug update sepercede the 3 July update ie did applying both create this problem?.
Cheers.
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Yeah it was fixed some time ago.
Applying both updates wouldn't have 'created' a problem - at least, not of this nature.
Applying both updates wouldn't have 'created' a problem - at least, not of this nature.
Allenby said:
Ok, so do I just go in and manually delete the duplicates in the leader csv files?
Also Haig a level 4 FM & offensive doctrine :rofl: that definitely needs editing!
As good a general as Maxse, Allenby, Plummer IRL? I think not! I suppose it all comes back to game balance as a realistic Haigh as a level 2 FM old guard might hamper the British AI.
Otherwise it looks like a fascinating mod. Thanks for the enormous effort. Unfortunately it is spring down here Wombatistan and all of the green garden cuttings need to disposed of so I'll have to wait a few days to get stuck into it (can't wait).
I like the fact that the dominion troops are created as guard units which neatly solves the problem of representing the elite nature of the dominion units. Something similar should be insinuated into the CORE mod.
Thankyou.