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It doesn't matter. I never stated belief of the fact, but nevertheless it did no harm to explain a potential trend.
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Women may well like them - if they're aware of them. But I doubt many are. I feel that among the general population, most people aren't even aware that there are games on PC other than minesweeper. The aware ones are mostly technically-oriented dorks, who are overwhelmingly male, even today.
I think you're probably right (if exaggerating a bit) but like just about everything said in this thread thats an assumption based on personal experience.
There is a trend of games both video and tabletop entering the mainstream. I was talking with some friends about the increasing number of boardgames we find available and one of them put it down to videogames becoming sufficiently mainstream that its having a knockon effect making games in general less nerdish, less for children in the eyes of the general population. I'm one of a handful of women I know in real life who plays hardcore strategy games but I know quite a few women who will play Settlers of Catan, CivRev or other light strategy games, something that didn't happen 10 years ago.
Exactly, so you are a minority. The thread is an explanation for the minority. We aren't saying women don't play, we're saying why do a disproportionate amount of women not play. Paradox is quite hardcore, so as you said, only a handful of women play it. I also never said it wasn't improving.
Why don't men like adventures or puzzle games? Do their manly macho brains make solving puzzles more difficult?
You see, recent science proves that men's brains are inherently less able to process verbal stories, complex plotlines and logical patterns. If you would look beyond your silly social Marxist ideas of sameness, you would be able to accept this- but it's okay, because men don't need to be writers or to use logic. They can always find manual labor- which is something I definitely respect as a profession and which is not at all inferior to the humanities or to logics and geometry, despite what PC libtards would have you say, and is really where men are able to shine and find happiness.
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But if we use men to do manual work and women to stay home and take care of the children, who'll do the intellectual work ? We need a third, neutral gender to rule us all !
Amazing really, and Amanita Design has made lots of other fantastic games such as Samorost I and II, with III being released later this year.
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So somebody was looking for numbers on this right
According to the Paradox COO, around 40% of CKII players are female.
The question in the OP is an invalid complex question.
According to the Paradox COO, around 40% of CKII players are female.
The question in the OP is an invalid complex question.
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I quite enjoy puzzle and adventure games. Portal and Skyrim come to mind as popular examples.
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Portal is very different from your typical puzzle game, so you enjoying it doesn't really speak to how much you like the crop of puzzle games in general. As for Skyrim, it isn't an "Adventure" game at all: the adventure game genre is defined by a heavy story focus while you move your character through the environment trying to puzzle out the solution to whatever your current obstacle is. Machinarium is, like I said, a fantastic example of an adventure game. Grim Fandango was recently remastered and is a classic of the genre, as is The Secret of Monkey Island. If you want more modern examples, Telltale Games did some episodic series for Sam & Max and Back to the Future.
Well why is it a bad thing that women aren't as involved? It isn't inherently bad or good. The idea that some people here use phrases like "Well it's improving" or "It's getting better" is ridiculous. Or that something isn't good unless there's an even 50/50 demographic split among all demographics everywhere. Newsflash, men and women are different. Did you know it has recently been scientifically proven that men and women do not even perceive color the same. So, perhaps it's just as simple as that not many women are nerds/grand strategy could just be not their thing, that their interests lie elsewhere. There are exceptions to every rule of course, but there's no need to commit the grave sin that is Political Correctness.
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For the community, it obviously is better to have both as involved. As good as it is to have younger and elder persons, or people from different countries.
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How's it better/worse for the community? This is a community for GSG's. It doesnt matter who is a part of the community, it does not become better or worse because some demographics are or are not involved. GSG's are a niche genre anwyays, which means some demographics and parts of the gaming community won't be interested. Blatant "Try to force all demographics in even when they aren't interested" is what leads to companies changing their games or adding things specifically for changing their core demographic, which generally tends to screw up a product.
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