Nagel said:
There is a list with exploits already. See the newbie help centre sticky.
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There is a list with exploits already. See the newbie help centre sticky.
By the way, our nice Chief-of-Troy or Troy100pc is now changing his names so that people accept him again. He just created a new acount as Bodoi... watch out if you see some dude with only a few posts.
Youre not supposed to betray his new nickBurningEGO said:
. Then he cant reform into a non-cheating player.
Mulliman said:Youre not supposed to betray his new nick
he should be given a secund change just don't let him host and chek the save occasionally
Mulliman said:Youre not supposed to betray his new nick
Registering with a new nick is against the forum rules. EGO did the right thing.
If you screw up, you should try to get a second chance with your existing nick. Apologise and such
balinus said:
geronimo/rasputine
got caught cheating while playng russia(and hosting he editing himself all sorts of stuff including provs with 86basevalue ect so ye he did do that just 2-2and a half years or so ago not 1
admiral drake said:
ah! ok... I thought you were speaking about the Newbie game I GMed.
Hupp, didnt know that. Or had forgot, i supposeFAL said:
.How is such a rule supposed to be monitored though?
Going back to the original subject, I've just discovered that a lot of MP here do test runs of their war strategies based on the latest savesgame. Now personally I consider that borderline cheating, and defintely exploitable, since you then know about troop positions of your enemies etc (at least at the start - of course the more time you play in SP, the less accurate it gets). Yet it seems to be acceptable practice with a lot of players here. What are other people's thought's on this?
PJL said:
It's generally not a nice thing to do but it can't exactly be prevented or detected either. I used to sometime load up as my own country to test something, but as that is generally quite unusable information I nowadays don't bother with that.
AI performance in warfare is so extremely weak that if someone plans according to SP war results, it's their own mistake
I never do it, well against AI I have done it but that is another matter imo.
Playing as your own country against human countries in SP I consider an exploit.
Playing as your own country against human countries in SP I consider an exploit.
I sometimes do it, but against AI countries, that I know that human countries are going to act differently . Mostly I just do that test run as smn says, and to think up a strategy based on terrain, walls size, etc. But not troops position. Although, most of the wars are solved (or are close to) in session, so it's kinda pointless to do that before session
. Mostly I just do that test run as smn says, and to think up a strategy based on terrain, walls size, etc. But not troops position. Although, most of the wars are solved (or are close to) in session, so it's kinda pointless to do that before session
I can't be arsed to look. Most important stuff is already given free with stats anyway.
It could be nasty to check ones position if a session has ended in an ongoing war, but even then: the most important stuff is how many manpower one has left, how much cash etc and that's in the stats.
It could be nasty to check ones position if a session has ended in an ongoing war, but even then: the most important stuff is how many manpower one has left, how much cash etc and that's in the stats.
Though i very often dont have the time to check the save during the week, i think its a legitimate action.PJL said:
PJL said:
i don't do either but
tryng the save in sp and dowing a playernation to test a war is acceptable
what isn't acceptable in my opinion however is chekking enemy trooppositions with the intend to dow him early in session and use that knowledge
Well, I often test my actions in SP with a save from last session. Just to check if I have some events that are going to happen, or to test colonization/exploration/whatever. Never used it for a pvp war gains because I seriously think that it can't be a great asset since troops are mobile. Most important stuff is already in stats, and I do examine that carefully.
If I were more experienced in MP, I doubt it would be any help since experienced players already know what events, leaders, etc are going to happen in the next session. I use it just for that, so I don't be suprised.
If I were more experienced in MP, I doubt it would be any help since experienced players already know what events, leaders, etc are going to happen in the next session. I use it just for that, so I don't be suprised.
The only thing I might do is load up the save and try some semi-difficult thing vs the AI. An example is if I want to take a CoT before someone else I do an estimate of how many troops and ships I'll need and try it in SP. That can't be called cheating now can it?
Also conflicts are resolved when we finish most of the time, and you can get a better summary just glancing at the stats really...
Also conflicts are resolved when we finish most of the time, and you can get a better summary just glancing at the stats really...