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The comming of Luther - a time of religious tension and an empire in crisis (COT)

I made a post about the viability of german minors a while back with mixed reactions. A few seemed quite curious and others not. Ive now made a rough draft of a scenario and wondered who would be interested. I think myself that these nations will add more to the game than a mughal china etc as they are right in the center of the action. Also its nice to try something new every now and again. Its actually not all that radical though. It will be mostly a normal game and if they end up annexed then people can change to another nation. I have a good feeling about the idea though so you should give it a try. Even if you dont espacially like the idea, a nation like england for example shouldnt be too affected.

Start Date - a while away (perhaps 2 months)
Times - a weekday (possibly wedensday) 19:00 - 23:00cet
Theme - RP relaxed game with a focus on central/western europe
Features - random leaders, edited german minors, some kind of military tradition rules, rewards for RP play and showing up on time.
scenario - edited 1520 to give german minors the following boosts (to be negotiated)
-BB has had 1 prov edited our and the paltinate has had alasce edited in to give all 4 german minors 2 provs.
-cores edited in to all german minors
-mp and cc edited to minors capitols to give them around 30mp/45k support
-mini COT edited to their capitols
-govenor edited to their capitols
-very nice sliders edited to them including quality, central, land
-1000 ducats given to each

Rules
-as few as possible

Guidelines - these are relaxed guidelines though you are required to make the effort
- try to engage in RP and forum diplomacy as much as you can - you will be rewarded
- dont JUST play to make your nation as big/rich as possible. Set original/interesting objectives for yourself
-try to avoid obscene gangbanging but if you do then keep demmands small please
-AARs are always fun and will be rewarded
-Make your nations policys more open than usual.
-If there is a failry even war going on then please avoid jumping in cowardly. At least if you do then dont do the old 'we only make peace terms together' thing that makes it into a gang. You should peace sep if it is sep war.
-Feel free to change your style of play for different monarchs
-Religious/zealous play i particularly like. It will be rewarded, especially before AOE.
-try to play with the times - not asking for totaly historic play but rping through the ages is good. For example less focus on religion after AOE.

spain - great responsibility for funding and holding the catholic world together
england - as much freedom as always really though would be nice to get involved in the reformation
holland/poland - i think poland may be better choice with holland left open
france - could be tough if HRE stays together or easy if they can be broken apart
austria - will likely be smaller than usual but great fun to play
sweden - no denmark should make them strong though north germany will be crowded
OE - would like a good war player here
russia - like england will be less affected by the crowded germany
bavaria - historcally a strong german nation with potential to expand in italy
the palatinate - very rich historically with potential to expan north, east or south
saxony - slightly more difficult position and so may require additional edit
brandenburg - great potential but wont be able to expand as much as normal
 
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I think it would be much more viable if the map editor was used to create extra provinces in Germany to accomodate for more players. As is, nations like Brandenburg are the most squashed around.
 
Hello Cheech,

I was always thinking about playing Pommern. It has interesting start position and if there will be no human Poland it can be playable.

So if you will start this game count me as Grand Duke of Pommern :)

Only problem can be time. I can play only on weekdays after 20:00 or even later. Before evening and on weekends I am usually not in home.
 
Vasa i dont really understand your post..

HAL/sable - id love for you to play but please select from the list. Pommern has a silly location and so shouldnt be played. Hessen could be i guess but the palanate is better. Ive picked the most significant minors from the period

the palanate - rich as hell before the tyw - pleayed a major part in it too
saxony - no1 mil power before tyw
bavaria - very strong during tyw and after. Played major part in napoleon wars
brand - strongest germany minor after tyw

Also, you dont have to pick minor- lots of normal nations to play too. A good spain would be fun. France would be interesting too. Poland could be played also and we could forget holland.
 
Austria will be a tall order in this game. Lots of responsibilty. Would be fun though and youd have a loyal bavaria to keep the electors under control :)
 
cheech said:
... Poland could be played also ...

You know you should not say this cheech... You know what it will mean now :rolleyes: :D :mad: :cool:
 
I actually think a poland is kinda vital. Otherwise brand may become too strong, too fast. Holland is always nice too and close to the action. Perhaps if poland is destroyed early then someone can switch..
 
cheech said:
Perhaps if poland is destroyed early then someone can switch..

Poland will not be destroyed so quickly ;)

Count me on as POL
 
Im sure youd do fine. Poland would be in an interesting position. More potential enemies and friends than normal. I would hope for some decent RP in this game too.
 
cheech said:
I would hope for some decent RP in this game too.

What is RP?
 
roleplay, and not the kinky sort!
 
"Role play". It means you must do stupid things just because that was what could be expected from the kings and their ministers in those ages.

As Poland I imagine you should go decentralised... :rofl:
 
cheech said:
roleplay, and not the kinky sort!

I am not a native english, sorry but you have to be more precise cheech :)
 
Daniel A said:
"Role play". It means you must do stupid things just because that was what could be expected from the kings and their ministers in those ages.

As Poland I imagine you should go decentralised... :rofl:

Polish monarchs were always trying to centralised power. It was aristocracy who stoped this process.

So as a Poland I am rather olbiged to lower aristocracy and go centralised.
 
HALNY (HAL) said:
Polish monarchs were always trying to centralised power. It was aristocracy who stoped this process.

So as a Poland I am rather olbiged to lower aristocracy and go centralised.


I think you've got the concept of RP :D

the "purists" will say that RP is first and foremost pretending to be a king(or like leader) of the time and basing your ingame actions on that..
Most people will do what is best for the country and then cover it up with a historically plausible story.
 
Well id really like you and john to play so it wont be for a while. Probably 2 months id rekon or so. John is interested in the palaiant he says. I think he likes the idea of being on border of france. Should be interested. I think youd make a nice austria or spain fred if your playing :)