I wanna be a peasant in Crusader Kings 3.

[Farabi]

I’m sure there would be a way to script a story for the early life of one of those rare peasant-born social climbers - Tsar Ivaylo the Radish, for example.

Perhaps there’s something to be said for a first-person scything simulator or an RPG about a (usually doomed) peasant uprising, but playing a simple farmer and his line of descendants from birth to death would, in this engine, be a wee bit boring (excepting the occasional event when you’re randomly murdered by a bored knight who wants to steal your cow).

 

[Max the great]

If you want this you should play Mount and Blade its a game with a unique style and you can play as the King of the World or a lowly peasant, who fights the enemy knights with a bent pitchfork. Tnühe mods are great too.

 

[Dunaedine]

This entire thread is a troll, doesn't it?

 

[Pannonius]

I'm with you, OP. Starting your own medieval Worker's and Peasant's Red Army would be so cool.

 

[sortulv]

This entire thread is a troll, doesn't it?

Trolls shouldn't be in until the first supernatural DLCs...

 

[Spaninq]

Seriously though. Playing as a peasant in a Crusader Kings 3. Get drafted into a levy. Now you're on a Crusade. Now you're a count in Antioch because you did a lot of heroic things in the Crusade and most of the nobility died in the war so your King started drawing from his military ranks.

I'm sure a D&D Dungeon Master could make that possible for you.

Implementing playing as a peasant in CK3 would probably require a completely new game engine entirely. Seriously.

 

[Voidlord]

Yea that isn’t what CK is about. What you want is an entirely different game.

 

[Dmitrius]

Peasants are born, work, marry, have kids, and die in this era.

Social stratification was probably never so limited for the bottom rung. What you're talking about is essentially a fantasy game.

Now a mode that allows you to strike out as an title spurned noble adventurer, that might be possible?

 

[Joel M Bridge]

Guys their was crazy moment where wrestler became emperor

 

[Ivashanko]

You're asking for a completely different game. That game could be a lot of fun, but it isn't Crusader Kings.

 

[Pannonius]

Hey guise, make sure to tell the OP how this is not what CK is all about.

 

[Denkt]

Peasants are born, work, marry, have kids, and die in this era.

Social stratification was probably never so limited for the bottom rung. What you're talking about is essentially a fantasy game.

Now a mode that allows you to strike out as an title spurned noble adventurer, that might be possible?

Social mobility during middle ages would probably be about the same as today. It is wrong to say that being born a peasant ment you would die as a peasant. Justinian came from a peasant family and ended up emperor over the Eastern Roman empire at its largest extent. Some chinese emperors came from peasant families. Joan of Arc while never a ruler became more famous than her king. It is possible to find quite a few examples of lowborn Rising in ranks for various reasons.

 

[sortulv]

The real problem for allowing peasants to be playable, is that to do so, you would need all peasants to be tracked by the game... Now, while a game that tracks that low level detail would be somewhat amazing, it would also be SLOW. True, there was not nearly as many people living in Europe as today, but running random events for several million separate characters would be a killer on most supercomputers... Maybe in CK 30...

 

[Hugh Mann]

Social mobility during middle ages would probably be about the same as today. It is wrong to say that being born a peasant ment you would die as a peasant. Justinian came from a peasant family and ended up emperor over the Eastern Roman empire at its largest extent. Some chinese emperors came from peasant families. Joan of Arc while never a ruler became more famous than her king. It is possible to find quite a few examples of lowborn Rising in ranks for various reasons.

If anything it was more so, judging by the number of historical examples from far smaller populations. None of that could happen today.

 

[Denkt]

If anything it was more so, judging by the number of historical examples from far smaller populations. None of that could happen today.

World population today is about 20 times larger now than CK's timeframe. I don't think size of World population is that important for social mobility. Even Joan of Arc can/do happen today given that Young people can still gain significant influence, however a major difference is how information is spread today compared to medieval era which basically meant Joan of Arc became a legend maybe already in her short lifetime which would probably not happen today, atleast not to that extreme.

People today from poor backgrounds do gain position of Power but like in previous eras, your background can make stuff significant easier or harder.

 

[Dmitrius]

Social mobility during middle ages would probably be about the same as today. It is wrong to say that being born a peasant ment you would die as a peasant. Justinian came from a peasant family and ended up emperor over the Eastern Roman empire at its largest extent. Some chinese emperors came from peasant families. Joan of Arc while never a ruler became more famous than her king. It is possible to find quite a few examples of lowborn Rising in ranks for various reasons.

Justinian was from indifferent age, Joan d'arc was a general, and China isn't in the game.

In any case, social mobility clearly doesn't mean what you think it means if you consider it equal to modern standards.

 

[Gurkhal]

Another game, but this thread reminds me of this.

 

[Hugh Mann]

World population today is about 20 times larger now than CK's timeframe. I don't think size of World population is that important for social mobility. Even Joan of Arc can/do happen today given that Young people can still gain significant influence, however a major difference is how information is spread today compared to medieval era which basically meant Joan of Arc became a legend maybe already in her short lifetime which would probably not happen today, atleast not to that extreme.

People today from poor backgrounds do gain position of Power but like in previous eras, your background can make stuff significant easier or harder.

It's a shame that they use that power to erase themselves from history. That or you're talking nonsense, which I would never accuse someone of...

 

[Patriarch of Bub]

Another game, but this thread reminds me of this.

Admittedly i watched this while being super tired, but i sure woke up the neighbours laughing.
That peasant means business. Ok devs, you know what to do

 

[Revshawn]

The real problem for allowing peasants to be playable, is that to do so, you would need all peasants to be tracked by the game... Now, while a game that tracks that low level detail would be somewhat amazing, it would also be SLOW. True, there was not nearly as many people living in Europe as today, but running random events for several million separate characters would be a killer on most supercomputers... Maybe in CK 30...

That’s the thing though! You don’t have to keep track of an entire game of peasants. Just you and the peasants created for your story and actions you regularly interact with if we are going this idea. The rest of the characters for one time events you can just kill off the same way CK2 does.

It’s not like this is the modern age where you gotta go see your rich uncle in Gotland. Most likely you are going to live, marry, have kids, work the farm, and die where you are born. So there’s no need to have a large system spamming peasants everywhere. Too complicated.