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Hallsten

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Ok, I'm playing Russia and everything went fine until about 1600. I'm at 1605 now and I've had LOADS of +3 rebellion events. Now I'm at 21% rebellion risk and close to all my provinces have rebelled. Is this supposed to simulate the great disorder that was in Russia at this time and if so, don't you think you're overdoing it a little?? :p
 
Originally posted by Hallsten
Ok, I'm playing Russia and everything went fine until about 1600. I'm at 1605 now and I've had LOADS of +3 rebellion events. Now I'm at 21% rebellion risk and close to all my provinces have rebelled. Is this supposed to simulate the great disorder that was in Russia at this time and if so, don't you think you're overdoing it a little?? :p
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Welcome to the Time of Troubles. Yes it is supposed to be like that and no it isn't overdone.
 
Yes, it was that bad

but this is not an event coded by the IGC. It is part of the default as I understand it.
 
Re: Re: IGC people, is it supposed to be like this!??!

Originally posted by Sidney


Welcome to the Time of Troubles. Yes it is supposed to be like that and no it isn't overdone.
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Not overdone??
There's not even a theoretical chance that I can reclaim all the rebellious provinces, only the crappy ones are left and in all the ones left combined I can build ~20k military units every year... :(
 
but this is not an event coded by the IGC. It is part of the default as I understand it.
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Actually, I think it's been added in IGC. I never had anything like that happened before. It might be overdone, if what you say is true. 21% chance of rebellion is way too high, besides Time of Troubles wasn't exactly about rebellions. It will last (theoretically) until 1612, but I don't really know what Hartmann did.
 
I didn´t test it from the players side, but in my 7 hands off games since we added the further obscurantism events, Russia always survived the times of troubles without any provincial loss. Sometimes the governement was overthrown, but that was about it.

Please report Your further experiences from singleplayer side, whether it´s a piece of cake, challenging or too hard and what the consequences were. If it turns out to be too much, we will reduce it in the next issue.

As we are at it: Testing is very time consuming for us. So it would be nice, if IGC players help us by reporting their experiences. I will start a thread for this in the scenario section soon. :)

Hartmann
 
I just checked: There are 9 such events for each of the Pretenders Dimitri, Vasili IV Shuiski and Vladislav Wasa. Then indeed in 1612 it stops.

Also there are 8 events each for Catherine di Medici (France) and Charles I (England) representing the Hugenottes and Royalists.

Hartmann
 
Originally posted by Hartmann
I just checked: There are 9 such events for each of the Pretenders Dimitri, Vasili IV Shuiski and Vladislav Wasa. Then indeed in 1612 it stops.

Also there are 8 events each for Catherine di Medici (France) and Charles I (England) representing the Hugenottes and Royalists.

Hartmann
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Does that mean that I'll get 9 obscurance events??
 
that "time of troubles" was a nightmare for me. Almost all my colonies in Siberia revolted. And finally my government felled!! But that means that all my revolters disappeared and stability changed to +3, so question is what's the downside with fallen government, so far I have not noticed any problems...
 
Hallsten: No, everyone of them gets nine, one per month. So You´ll have a peak of 27% three times. Sounds a bit high even to me now, though I didn´t notice special probs with AI Russia. Please report back. (Maybe it´s a good idea to try more or less to sit it out. I think, that´s probably what the AI does. As long as You´re not at war, a government overthrow is not that bad and all the rebels will turn into armies.)

Hartmann

Edit: Yasko: That´s what I thought. Probably one shouldn´t resist it too much.
 
Medicine Man

You're supposed to lose a bunch of Victory Points when your government falls. I've never had it happen, so I can't confirm or deny this supposition.

Oh... and I like a little chaos. Gives me something to do. :)

Cheers.
 
I don't really think it needs to be toned down, it is about the only thing a Russian player has to worry about in the mid part of the game. I haven't really noticed problems for the Russian AI, but I don't pay that much attention to Russia unless I am playing it.
 
i am playing russia just now.

I lost 12K !!! in Trade research and 6 K in Infrastructure.

It's late 1606 and most of my provinces have around 20K-40K rebells on them.

Around 50% of my provinces have fallen. + They are moving on. Moskau fell without a shoot fired (WTF!)

ahh well

maybe I will survive it... but it's not really fun to lose everything you built up so slowly :(
 
Time of troubles

I thought I would register my experience with the Time of Troubles - I knew it was coming. I thought I was ready. I was wrong.

Rebellions everywhere. Investment lost. Stability takes a nose dive. Not far from what actually happened historically.

Government fell. Stability shot up. Rebellions vanish. At last!

Then horror of horrors. All those rebel controlled areas declared independece. Sibir, Astrakhan, Kazan and the Golden Horder got their starting territories back, cutting off my Ukranian territories. Pskov (Pskov!) got FOUR of my provinces. *Sigh*

Time to rebuild. But the Troubles are not over. Rebellions continue. Losers take the throne. It was nice to see my opponents take advantage of my weakness. Damn Turks. Damn Poles. Damn Danes.

Now, at the end of Michael Romanov's reign, I have still not recovered from the chaos. The Golden Horde still lives, loans I was forced to take are finally paid off though.

And my haste to regain my losses has made me the Badboy.

Take what you will from this.

Porcius
 
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