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They’ll be landing at Gibraltar in a few days.
Of course they will.
The Emperor was left alone, and rather bewildered, with only cigar butts and empty bottles for company.
Mighty Cheesare has been loved and left.
“Alan…” the grumpy dictator warned as Mr Sodomy Donkey slowly began to rise behind him.
Though not left completely alone. Ok, ok, so I won’t say anything lurid about what Mr S. Donkey may be doing there, but what are we supposed to think, hmm? :D :eek:

Anyway, if this is going to be all decadent Roman Empire type goings on, perhaps the Donkey should be made a Senator?
 
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Anyway, if this is going to be all decadent Roman Empire type goings on, perhaps the Donkey should be made a Senator?
I endorse this! Sen. Sodomy Donkey sounds much more official than plain old Mr.
 
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Of course they will.
This is an incredibly underhand way to review every single county's Fort and infrastructure level. And to just waste a bunch of time and resources.

So a bit of spiting me by cutting off their own thingies.
Mighty Cheesare has been loved and left.
Why does it always have to be this way?
Though not left completely alone. Ok, ok, so I won’t say anything lurid about what Mr S. Donkey may be doing there, but what are we supposed to think, hmm? :D
It has already been established that sleepovers are a thing much enjoying in Roman society. Anything beyond that is beyond the interest and right to know of the state.
Anyway, if this is going to be all decadent Roman Empire type goings on, perhaps the Donkey should be made a Senator?
Given we currently have no senate or any senators, this should actually be rather easily done.
I endorse this! Sen. Sodomy Donkey sounds much more official than plain old Mr.
Only because he be ever so humble. He's actually Brigadier General, the Honourable Dr Sodomy Phallus Orgo Synposium Donkey the Third, retired (Professor Emeritus at King's).

The British got tired of having lions led by donkeys and in a fit of explosive racism, cast him out. Savages. Mr Sodomy Donkey would like it known that many of his best lovers are lions.
 
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All these questions are making me want to do a HOI4 game where I just roleplay the secretary of state for national parks in the US. No problems but wood and dirty labourers...
And madcap plans. Or at least that appears to be what the actual US Secretary's of the Interior do. The OTL secretary before and during the war had the great idea of, and I'm not making this up, Jewish Alaska. His predecessors had focused on corruption scandals with amusing names (Teapot Dome) and his successors were frankly too grim to discuss here.
 
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And madcap plans. Or at least that appears to be what the actual US Secretary's of the Interior do. The OTL secretary before and during the war had the great idea of, and I'm not making this up, Jewish Alaska. His predecessors had focused on corruption scandals with amusing names (Teapot Dome) and his successors were frankly too grim to discuss here.
They got bored and started trying to build ethno states in parts of the US, or so it seems. As ironic as that sounds, considering what the US is.
 
God the war for Asia is turning from horrific to monstrous. I'm playing to the end now just to see what happens, but so far, it's looking like 1942 is the Year of Blood. And that's in relation to the past 6 years.
 
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God the war for Asia is turning from horrific to monstrous. I'm playing to the end now just to see what happens, but so far, it's looking like 1942 is the Year of Blood. And that's in relation to the past 6 years.
Year of blood for a Roman Empire? I heartily approve.
 
Year of blood for a Roman Empire? I heartily approve.
It's not so bad for our side after the first few months but it's bascially the worst bits of otl ww2 Pacific campaign and Vietnam rolled into one for pretty much everyone whose fighting, and everyone else died a while ago due to famine, disease and the fighting (there is no infrastructure left standing across the whole theatre).

If Eastern Europe is depleted and diminished after their wars and experiences, South East Asia is hell on earth. We're all fighting over ashes at this point.
 
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Chapter 31: Butcher's Bill
Chapter 31: Butcher's Bill
In the deep dark lair, of the Nazi Party…

“This is an outrage!” roared the Fuhrer, as he was escorted back to his cell. “The menu clearly stated a ‘Champagne of the Month’, and we were very obviously served Prosecco!”

“Indeed!” Goebbels agreed, as his nurse helped him back into his special jacket. “False advertising. These lies cannot be allowed to continue. Not only are you lying to your guests, but you are lying to yourselves!”

“I had the Crème Brulé for afters,” whined Goering.

“I thought that was actually rather good,” Hitler admitted, and the other Nazis agreed.

“Yes, but I ordered heroin.”

As the various leaders of the Third Reich were left to their bickering in their highly secure and blessedly soundproofed rooms, the staff of what was quickly being referred to as ‘the Zoo’ met with the Warden.

“What’s the verdict?” he asked of the medical team, when they finally returned from their daily task of preventing Hess’ escape attempt.

The various doctors and nurses looked at each other uncertainly before one was shoved forward to be spokesman.

“Well…every single high-ranking member of the Nazi Party seems to be either suffering from various highly debilitating diseases, drug habits, mental illness and trauma, all capped off by poor or downright criminally negligent medical care.”

“They’re all fucking nuts!” someone shouted from the back.

“Quite,” the spokesman said, “but that being said, it has proven difficult to diagnose them all whilst they are detoxing, coming to terms with their defeat in war and…various other things. We are collectively of the opinion that it would be impossible to say which of them were fully sane and lucid most of the time, and those who were batshit crazy for at least the past couple of years, through one method or another.”

The warden massaged his head. “Recommendations?”

“Shoot them!” someone shouted from the back.

“That would be one solution,” the spokesperson said. “It may indeed be the only solution for some of them. If you’re talking long term, I’m uncertain how many will be capable of standing trial on health grounds. They certainly don’t really deserve to have much justice to protect them, but we are supposed to be setting a better example.”

“Buggering fuck,” the Warden said quietly. He’d protested profusely at being assigned this post, but the Joint Allied-Roman Conference at Danzig had been quite firm in creating a multi-national team to…contain…the former German government, whilst the Romans scrambled to try and find someone capable of running a new regime in the war-torn country. It was proving, understandably, difficult. His own job of both trying to stick to medical and legal ethics whilst holding duty of care for both a staff and the worst monsters of the century was…trying.

It would be worse when he would have to recommend, based off medical evidence, to postpone any trial for at least another three months.
23rd January 1942
The various leaders of the Roman Empire, their puppets, friends and allies, were seated around a lovely table having a jolly nice tea.

The Reich High Command were in a cage, drinking their yak milk quietly, having worked a day trip out for good behaviour.

“Has the medical team reported back yet? And is that cage really necessary?” Augustus Cheesare inquired quietly to Alan.

Alan thought about it for a moment before turning from the Emperor and looking over to the military end of the table, where the various commanders of the greatest military machine in world history were managing their various crippling drug conditions.

“They’re still trying to figure out some of the cocktails and ‘treatments’ that quack hack handed out, but the gist is almost everyone in the upper circle was either drugged to high heaven, clinically insane or some mixture of both. Most of their remaining troops are suffering from extreme meth withdrawal, those who haven’t committed suicide, are in prison or have gone mad with the things they’ve done.”

“Mmm. So, no German reinforcements anytime soon?”

“Doubtful. The country was teetering on the edge of civil war off and on for a decade before Hitler took over. He has not improved their situation. It’s only us keeping the country together at this point. We may have to split it up into regions if things don’t start improving.”

“Bugger. What about our own efforts?”

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Seriously, look how ridiculously small this focus tree is. We're in January 1942 and it's all done.

Alan perked up. “Bean-Counter told me yesterday that we’ve completely finished all our modernisation and improvement programs for the Italian provinces. Our progression is complete, for now. We’re focused on improving and refining our tech, and building up the rest of the Empire to catch up with Italy, France and the Low Countries. To that end we’re about to start a gigantic construction program across the continents, including our vassal and allied states.”

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Nothing but this for the rest of the game...
“No domestic issues?”

“Only that we’re struggling to keep up with recruitment for national service. Our armed forces are going to triple in size over the next two years, if these numbers are accurate. We maybe should start thinking about rebuilding our navy, come to think.”

The Emperor shuddered. “Perhaps.”

There was little more in the way of talk until the dishes were clean, the cheese and port were also polished off, and coffee and mingling broke out.

“Ah, General,” the Emperor said, walking over to Catastrophe. “What news from the front?”

The general sipped his coffee and then gestured over to a table with Bean-Counter and various SIM types were playing cards.

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“The news from the past month is all relatively the same, as you know. Very little progress made against the Chinese, who have adopted such an elastic defence and vicious counter-attack strategy that the front has moved forwards and backwards over the same few miles for weeks now. We take three men for every two they put down, but the numbers are still relatively even. I can’t see us breaking into their lines without a large amount of air support and more tanks.”

“And Japan?”

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Note the many allied and puppet forces helping us out. A pleasant surprise.

“We have closed the pockets and destroyed their puppet armies outside of Korea, though they have actually pushed us back a little from the border. Our air superiority is telling however, they’ve lost 650 thousand men so far, and that’s not counting the 1.7 million they’ve lost fighting the Chinese before and during our war. If we push against Korea, I doubt they can stop us. And I do recommend closing Korea down as a priority. The Americans are all set to send their air force over to the peninsula once we’ve secured it, to start blasting the Home Islands apart. They and the British can also use the ports to interdict any Japanese ships from reaching the mainland, which will make our drive south much easier.”

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Basically, massive strikes on the Japanese on all fronts. And hold the line everywhere else.

“Yes, that makes sense. So, after Korea, what then?”

“Our recommendation is to focus on the Chinese coastline. Since the huge Japanese naval landings, they’ve taken over the whole of eastern China and thus, we only have their armies to fight. We push them off the coast and into the interior, they lose all their supplies and reinforcements, whilst trapping their armies in-between us and the Chinese. Once they have been defeated, we can slowly begin closing our jaws of attack from the north and the east around the various Chinese factions. That will be the bloodiest and hardest stage of the war for us, but hopefully our air force will be fully freed from the Japanese at that point to help.”

“Good show. What’s the damage to our forces overall?”

“Roughly 70 thousand dead and wounded. The Allies by contrast have taken over 200 thousand. And the enemy have suffered grievously, as previously mentioned.”

“But our numbers will rise come February and the start of incursions against fully fortified defences,” the Emperor said quietly.

“I’m afraid so, sire.”

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“Hmm. I’ll sign off on the attacks along all fronts. Focus on taking out Korea first, and no pressure on the Chinese-facing armies to kill themselves for meaningless gains. Also…you say the Japanese and Koreans have fortified the border?”

“They have.”

“I see. Muster our tanks to the edges of that front and get Colonel Kaboom to see if he can’t roll up the coastline. The Japanese may hold up most of our army in the centre, but if we can advance along a narrow front and even briefly disrupt port control…”

“Yes…it would be worth it. I’ll assign him myself. Crazy bastard will love the idea, I’m sure.”

“Oh and before I forget, any updates on the British offensive and defence of India?”

“Ah, well they have indeed lost a great many men fighting in the mountains and jungles of Burma and Indochina. However, they have also managed to push the Japanese back, reclaiming over half the colony from them. It seems their empire is very much on the ball and taking no risks when it comes to their own territories.”

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No fall of Singapore in this timeline. Well...not at the hands of Japan anyway...

“Very good. I suppose. Keep me updated on their actions and movements.”

“Of course, Mighty Cheesare. Anything else?”

“No that should be everything. Tell the SIM chaps I need to see them again for a quick meeting when convenient. Nothing to worry about. Splendid dinner, what?”
 
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“Well…every single high-ranking member of the Nazi Party seems to be either suffering from various highly debilitating diseases, drug habits, mental illness and trauma, all capped off by poor or downright criminally negligent medical care.”
These guys are still around? Dang. Something should be done.
The warden massaged his head. “Recommendations?”

“Shoot them!” someone shouted from the back.
That sounds a simple plan. Vae Victis and all that.
Tell the SIM chaps I need to see them again for a quick meeting when convenient. Nothing to worry about.
Reminds me of that line from Yes Minister:
”So, nothing to worry about?”
”Nothing for me to worry about, Humpy!”
 
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These guys are still around? Dang. Something should be done.
Apparently they're still 'in charge' of Germany, since the game does not differentiate between fascists. If you are a fascist, all your puppet governments are going to be fascist. And there's only one group of fascists in Germany apparently...

Thus, in universe, they are 'in charge' of Germany. They just so happen to always be in the deep dark lair, and never leave. Or indeed do anything.

I'll be honest, given the damage and depopulation of the whole of Eastern Europe, and Germany, it's absurd that we can install puppet governments at all. Everyone is dead, dying or horrifically injured, malnourished etc etc. All these places are, in universe, basically under the management and dominion of the Roman Empire because there is literally no one to hand off responsibility to. (We can even see this in game with the puppet troops supplied. African decolonised states have been steadily strengthening their garrisons and borders, whilst the Middle East lot have sent their guys to China. Even Russia has men to send to us - they weren't as badly hit in the war as Germany was - but the European lot are compeltely absent)

I think the game may even acknowledge this in some way because, as we fix up the infrastructure and industry of these places, their loyalty and control shoots up to the point where after half a year of our rule, they're all begging to be annexed.

This may or may not become a problem later on...
That sounds a simple plan. Vae Victis and all that.
Whilst most of the Roman High Command don't really mind setting the precedent that fascists can be shot for their crimes, the Emperor is a little hesitant. As soon as someone is actually able to govern Germany though, I suspect that show trials and some executions will be arranged.

Sooner if the British/Amercians don't go to war with us and thus actually do get around to insisting upon it.
Reminds me of that line from Yes Minister:
”So, nothing to worry about?”
”Nothing for me to worry about!”
Yes, one of Hacker's vest moves. Driving a wedge between the Treasury and Sir Humphrey. Especially as that is exactly what the civil service had always done between the Treasury and the PM.

Thankfully, we are still enjoying the Cheesey perks of New Roman Empire, and thus have pretty much no internal division whatsoever (including, apparently, employing out and out anti-facists as head of government...).
 
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Whilst most of the Roman High Command don't really mind setting the precedent that fascists can be shot for their crimes, the Emperor is a little hesitant.
Not any fascists, just losing/purged ones: eg Ernst Rohm and the SA. There’s always a handy precedent. Some of those odious Nazi judges are probably still lurking around and could do the job. Then get them to convict each other until only one is left, then he gets the Canaris treatment. Then reform Central Europe as the New and Cheesier Unholy Roman Empire.
As soon as someone is actually able to govern Germany though, I suspect that show trials and some executions will be arranged.
Yes, that.
 
Not any fascists, just losing/purged ones: eg Ernst Rohm and the SA.
I'm pretty sure most of them are long dead, as implied by the 'purged' descriptor...unless you are a student of the Pip school of Paradox Cabinets in which case a dead government is usually better than a living one.
There’s always a handy precedent.
I guess? Americans would certainly love resurrected old leaders, provided they didn't then explain what their opinions and intentions actually were...
Some of those odious Nazi judges are probably still lurking around and could do the job. Then get them to convict each other until only one is left, then he gets the Canaris treatment.
None that are talented enough to fix this. Though I'm not sure the dream team of the 20s could fix the mess Germany landed itself in here...and anyway they're all dead because whilst they were very good at building democracy from nothing (whilst ruling with an iron fist), the three main men of Wiemer didn't treat their variously medical problems and died just before everything went tits up.

But since we're bothering to resurrect facists, I'm sure this would be a bettergroup to rebirth.
Then reform Central Europe as the New and Cheesier Unholy Roman Empire.
Certainly unholy. The only people in it are zombies.

Though it can defiantly claim to be the new HRE, as it definetly is not holy, Roman or an empire.
Yes, that.
That will have to wait. Germany can always murder Hitler and put another nutjob in charge (hint hint) but until then, they're stuck in white collar prison complaining about Italian wine and French cooking.
 
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I'm pretty sure most of them are long dead, as implied by the 'purged' descriptor...unless you are a student of the Pip school of Paradox Cabinets in which case a dead government is usually better than a living one.
I guess? Americans would certainly love resurrected old leaders, provided they didn't then explain what their opinions and intentions actually were...
I actually meant them as the example/precedent, not part of the current blighted crop. By this time in the ATL of course they'd be around seven years worm-eaten and thoroughly unlamented.
Though it can defiantly claim to be the new HRE, as it definetly is not holy, Roman or an empire.
Then it should be proclaimed, brazenly and with contrived pseudo-dignity.
That will have to wait.
Aw, shucks, Dad! You're no fun :p
 
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I have to say I enjoyed your write-up of the imprisoned Nazis, trapped in the insane asylum! I can only imagine how that bunch would get on, but at least we have the 'special jacket' :D

We push them off the coast and into the interior, they lose all their supplies and reinforcements, whilst trapping their armies in-between us and the Chinese.
I think this is a suitably hilarious strategy, and it's probably the best one too! I look forward to the madness of this 3/4 way war in Asia. It seems to be a good conclusion to this crazy AAR (assuming the Allies don't attack next).
 
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I actually meant them as the example/precedent, not part of the current blighted crop. By this time in the ATL of course they'd be around seven years worm-eaten and thoroughly unlamented.
Ah. That makes more sense. I suppose fascists do kill fascists all the time. Though usually because they aren't fascist enough. And I'm not sure the Romans at this point can say that in regards to the Nazis...

And of course, the SA was a threat, and had some powers other Nazis wanted. I'm not sure the people who are left are worth the ammunition.
Then it should be proclaimed, brazenly and with contrived pseudo-dignity.
There is something warped and yet fitting of the end result of TTL facism being a newly restored and slowly liberalising Roman Empire forcing Germany back into the HRE days, only with even less respect and dignity (as they are now definitely not the heir to Rome and everyone knows it).
Aw, shucks, Dad! You're no fun :p
I mean...if you want to see Nazis kill themselves, go read the Barbarrossa chapter again.

Invading Russia at Christmas. Hilarious Mr Hitler.
I have to say I enjoyed your write-up of the imprisoned Nazis, trapped in the insane asylum! I can only imagine how that bunch would get on, but at least we have the 'special jacket'
It is of course up to personal interpretation as to how far reality actually meshes up with what the Nazis are saying (standard procedure really). Personally, I think they probably are rather well fed and watered, given that the deep dark lair has a very well stocked pantry and cellar, and the staff need some bloody perk of the job. Poor bastards.
I think this is a suitably hilarious strategy, and it's probably the best one too! I look forward to the madness of this 3/4 way war in Asia. It seems to be a good conclusion to this crazy AAR (assuming the Allies don't attack next).
Never really thought of it thst way, but yes. It is quite funny that China got invaded through the coast, only for Japan to also get invaded using the exact same route a few years later.

The war is, at least against the Chinese factions, fairly well balanced. They're just defending as best they can, and we don't have the air force and armour to smash through everything they have, and fight Japan as well.

I'm not entirely sure who is fighting who. Japan is fighting every Chinese faction and vice versa. The allies seem to be only fighting the Japanese but at some point seem to be fighting at least some of the warlords as well. And we're at war with everyone except the allies, for now anyway.

This is either the last war before a very awkward and tense cold War, or the last thing before an almighty war with the British, spanning the entire map. Technically South Amercia is still unaccounted for, but I doubt they'll do anything now. They haven't even fought amongst themselves, for some reason.

Edit: oh, and of course the war with Japan will not end until someone invades the home islands. So unless the Amercian AI is at least capable of sometimes being competent, or Churchill decides to flex again, we might be stuck in the Far East for some time...
 
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This is either the last war before a very awkward and tense cold War, or the last thing before an almighty war with the British, spanning the entire map. Technically South Amercia is still unaccounted for, but I doubt they'll do anything now. They haven't even fought amongst themselves, for some reason.
Personally I think the Cold War would be more interesting, just because I don't know how well a war with Britain would go. You could take anything connected by land, but there's no way you could launch a naval invasion and end the war. Unless their army is stronger than I think, then it could be fun!

Edit: oh, and of course the war with Japan will not end until someone invades the home islands. So unless the Amercian AI is at least capable of sometimes being competent, or Churchill decides to flex again, we might be stuck in the Far East for some time...
That's a bit concerning. I don't know about HOI4, but I'd say the coast of China isn't that hard to handle, something I proved in my HOI3 AAR. Especially if you break Japan's army, I can't imagine they'll have enough manpower to throw at you.
 
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Personally I think the Cold War would be more interesting, just because I don't know how well a war with Britain would go. You could take anything connected by land, but there's no way you could launch a naval invasion and end the war. Unless their army is stronger than I think, then it could be fun!
Launching a naval invasion on Britain is annoyingly easy. Fill the channel with naval bombers and fighter escorts (and northern France is full of airfields useful for the fighters, and the bombers can use slightly more inland areas). Then set up an invasion force planner from Calais to Dover and adjacent, to explain to the AI that unless they send their navy there, you will invade, meaning they have to send their navy to be sunk. (Put in a few old destroyers or something on a patrol/hide from everything mission so you get naval superiority if they don't put their navy where your bombs are).

Ending the war, however, is admittedly another fish to fry. (Since you need to reach the Americas to do that. And that's a target that is not just a single easily-controlled seazone away.)
 
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Personally I think the Cold War would be more interesting, just because I don't know how well a war with Britain would go. You could take anything connected by land, but there's no way you could launch a naval invasion and end the war. Unless their army is stronger than I think, then it could be fun!
I'm not sure how Asia would go because I don't know what the map will look like at the end of this war.

But Africa should be interesting, because there's an immediate race to Suez, followed by the battle over Ethiopia (if we can hold both, it's a huge blow to the British). It also means we can finally get rid of Free France, unleash all our allied decolonised states (hopefully they survive long enough to be useful/untill we make it to central Africa). And then the final push through to South Africa (which presumably will be very well defended).

And random naval landings could occur anywhere at any time.

Gibralter, Malta and Cyrpus are going to be nightmares for me to take. I'll probably have to develope parachute troops just for them. Gibraltar is especially bad because, unless I'm expecting a war, there won't be troops in Iberia to lock it down quickly. Mind you, it may also be a way to tempt a load of British forces off islands and onto the continent.

Middle East should be firmly simple. We focus on eypgt, and then the Arabian side of the assault can turn around and take out the minor presences along the coast.

Europe likewise will be fairly easy. Only Poland, Finland and Denmark to deal with, and Norway once Finland falls. My puppets can deal with them I suspect.

And that's really all I can do, until or unless something changes navally.
That's a bit concerning. I don't know about HOI4, but I'd say the coast of China isn't that hard to handle, something I proved in my HOI3 AAR. Especially if you break Japan's army, I can't imagine they'll have enough manpower to throw at you.
Yes I think the fight will be over, but the war won't be until someone takes enough Japanese cores. Which are mostly on the home islands.
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Given how many carriers and naval units in general the UK has, and how many planes they'd get with imperial federation, we'd still probably have to knock them compeltly out of afroeurasia first. Then grind them down.

Australsia and the Amercian bits of the federation are going to be harder to touch.
 
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Edit: oh, and of course the war with Japan will not end until someone invades the home islands. So unless the Amercian AI is at least capable of sometimes being competent, or Churchill decides to flex again, we might be stuck in the Far East for some time...
Given how many carriers and naval units in general the UK has, and how many planes they'd get with imperial federation, we'd still probably have to knock them compeltly out of afroeurasia first. Then grind them down.

Australsia and the Amercian bits of the federation are going to be harder to touch.
Sounds like the Cleansing Flame of nuclear destruction may be required. Mighty Cheesare riding one Strangelove style, Senator Donkey right behind him.
 
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