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So the playable states are:

Leon, Connaught, Aylekha (Irish. Perhaps Tir Eogain?), Georgia, Tuscany, Carinthia, Gwynned, Poland, Franw-Comte (Franche Comte/ County of Burgundy? It would have had a ruler of the right name at the right time, according to http://www.hostkingdom.net/france.html ) Salerno, England, Bohemia, Galicia, Franconia (=Germany? His parents seem right, but wasn't Henry IV a Salian?), Upper Lorraine, Provence, lower Lorraine, Leinster, Russia, Morgannog, Byzantium, Meath, Ulster, Norway, Scotland, Dagobart (Deheubarth?) Isle of Man, Saxony, Montferrat, Meissen, Croatia, Savoy, Barcelona, Kapui (Perhaps Capua?), Apulia, Swabia, Navarra, Aragon, Castille, Denmark, Munster, Nordmarka (Northmark? The province is Brandenburg), France, Sweden, Hungary, Austria

(From a babelfish.altavista.com translation, checked against a translate.ru translation and the Sovereign Dynasties thread)
 
Originally posted by Wulfram
Franw-Comte (Franche Comte/ County of Burgundy? It would have had a ruler of the right name at the right time, according to http://www.hostkingdom.net/france.html )
Franche-Comté = Free County. It's Burgundy all right :)


Franconia (=Germany? His parents seem right, but wasn't Henry IV a Salian?),
Not entire Germany. Franconia was one of the German duchies and was held by the Salians from 1024...

Nordmarka (Northmark? The province is Brandenburg)
The March of Brandenburg was known as Nordmark, the Northern Marches.
 
Originally posted by Havard
Franche-Comté = Free County. It's Burgundy all right :)

Nah, just the County of Burgundy, not the Duchy.

Drakken
 
Originally posted by Khimaira
Hey, come on fellows, stop using those Inet translators - i will translate that thing and post it today, any objections to?;)

Please do.:cool:
 
Originally posted by Wulfram
So the playable states are:
And in a bit more orderly fashion:

Scandinavia:
- Norway
- Denmark
- Sweden

British Isles:
- England
- Ireland: Connaught, Tir Eogain, Leinster, Meath, Munster, Ulster
- Isle of Man
- Scotland
- Wales: Gwynned, Morgannwg, Deheubarth

France:
- France

Iberia:
- Aragon
- Barcelona
- Castille
- Galicia
- Leon
- Navarra

Italy:
- Apulia
- Capua
- Salerno

HRE:
- Austria
- Carinthia
- Franche-Comté (Burgundy)
- Franconia
- Upper Lorraine
- Lower Lorraine
- Meissen
- Montferrat
- Nordmark
- Provence
- Savoy
- Saxony
- Swabia
- Tuscany

East of the HRE:
- Bohemia
- Byzantium
- Croatia
- Georgia
- Hungary
- Poland
- Russia

---

I'd say this looks really good :), with a few exceptions :(:
- France: No Toulouse? Bretagne? Flandern? Aquitaine?
- HRE: No Bavaria?
 
Originally posted by Havard
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I'd say this looks really good :), with a few exceptions :(:
- France: No Toulouse? Bretagne? Flandern? Aquitaine?
- HRE: No Bavaria?

That's nice, Havard, but I wouldn't put Flanders under the heading 'France'...:p ;)
 
Originally posted by Havard
And in a bit more orderly fashion:

Scandinavia:
- Norway
- Denmark
- Sweden

British Isles:
- England
- Ireland: Connaught, Tir Eogain, Leinster, Meath, Munster, Ulster
- Isle of Man
- Scotland
- Wales: Gwynned, Morgannwg, Deheubarth

France:
- France

Iberia:
- Aragon
- Barcelona
- Castille
- Galicia
- Leon
- Navarra

Italy:
- Apulia
- Capua
- Salerno

HRE:
- Austria
- Carinthia
- Franche-Comté (Burgundy)
- Franconia
- Upper Lorraine
- Lower Lorraine
- Meissen
- Montferrat
- Nordmark
- Provence
- Savoy
- Saxony
- Swabia
- Tuscany

East of the HRE:
- Bohemia
- Byzantium
- Croatia
- Georgia
- Hungary
- Poland
- Russia

---

I'd say this looks really good :), with a few exceptions :(:
- France: No Toulouse? Bretagne? Flandern? Aquitaine?
- HRE: No Bavaria?

Wow... That's a lot of dynasties fo Ireland and Wales but I REALLY am surprised that Brittany and Toulouse aren't in.
 
Is there life after death? CK offer their own answer: of course, there is, in the blood and flesh of your heirs. And not necessarily your own heirs — you can just curse them or send them onto such a crusade in the name of God from which they will never return, but they have to be fostered or appointed by you.
A sequence of rulers you control is a dynasty which is the centre of your concern and the fruits of your labour. How may fate warrant including which diplomatic, military and trade alliances it should get through — will be left up to you not the history to decide.
Having chosen one of the independent rulers thereinafter, you will acquire the title, the state in other words. The lands of some of them are located just in the very heart of Europe where diverse events are seething, and should you choose their dynasty you shall inevitably have to prepare for war, and don’t get over-confident – that will not be one tiny baron, those who will wish to snatch some provinces of yours and gain over your vassals will be quite numerous.
Possessions of others are hiding in the backyards, and you will have all the time you need to study arms craft, build fortresses and fleet till somebody knocks at your door. But there will be not a count and a bishop who are in great need of trifling 50 golden ducats, it’s going to be a huge army wiping everyone off the map: may he be a pagan or Muslim or a faithful Christian — and not of the glory of Jesus Christ but of the king.
But to choose the first ruler according to the degree of protection of his provinces is not a glorious deed. To promote the average but promising dynasty to the list of the richest and noblest is still not so honourable as one may think, how much better is the attempt to raise the small but proud, the weak but independent one. And maybe who knows you will wish to take Izyaslav I of Kiev and make all tiny princes listen to the tip of your sword within the nearest century, suppressing Novgorod, Chernigov and Vladimir.
And may it be that Izyaslav and William the Conqueror die — the game and their affairs will not end with their deaths. The dynasty is what is worth fighting for, what you must develop and care. Choosing the ruler you choose the beginning. The way you will show yourself as an advisor for him and his heirs will denote the end of this story.


Alphonso Jimenez the Brave
Title: king of Leon
Province: Leon
Birth: 1040
Age at the startup: 26
Marital status: single
Father: Fernando Jimenez the Great
Mother: Sancha Leon


Aedh Î'Brian Gil
Title: pennate of Connaught
Province: Galloway
Birth: 1015
Age at the startup: 51
Marital status: single
Father: Tadg O'Brian
Mother: not known


Aedh O'Neill
Title: pennate of Aileach
Province: Tir Eogan
Birth: 1031
Age at the startup: 35
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Bagrat Bagratid
Title: king of Georgia
Province: Kartli
Birth: 1018
Age at the startup: 48
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Beatrice de Bar
Title: duchess of Toscana
Province: Lucca
Birth: 1032
Age at the startup: 34
Marital status: single
Father: Friedrich von Ardennes
Mother: Bonifaja di Canossa


Berthold Zaringen the Bearded
Title: Herzog von Karnten
Province: Karnten
Birth: 1019
Age at the startup: 47
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Bleddyn ap Cynfyn
Title: prince of Gwynedd
Province: Gwynedd
Birth: 1025
Age at the startup: 41
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Boleslaw Pyast the Brave
Title: king of Poland
Province: Krakow
Birth: 1035
Age at the startup: 31
Marital status: single
Father: Kazimierz Pyast the Restorer
Mother: not known


William de Macon the Great
Title: count of Franche-Comte
Province: Franche-Comte
Birth: 1017
Age at the startup: 49
Marital status: married, spouse — Etiennette de Longuie
Father: Rinaldo de Macon
Mother: Alice de Normandy


William de Hauteville
Title: duke of Salerno
Province: Salerno
Birth: 1020
Age at the startup: 46
Marital status: single
Father: Tankred de Hauteville
Mother: not known


William the Conqueror
Title: king of England
Province: Essex
Birth: 1027
Age at the startup: 39
Marital status: married, spouse — Mathilda de Flanders
Father: Robert the Devil
Mother: Arliva da Falaiz


Vratislav Przemysl
Title: duke of Bohemien
Province: Prague
Birth: 1032
Age at the startup: 34
Marital status: married, spouse — Swentoslava Pyast
Father: Brzetislav Przemysl Ahilles
Mother: not known


Garcia Jimenez
Title: king of Galicia
Province: Galicia
Birth: 1035
Age at the startup: 31
Marital status: single
Father: Fernando Jimenez the Great
Mother: Sancha Leon


Heinrich von Franconia
Title: duke of Franconia
Province: Franconia
Birth: 1050
Age at the startup: 16
Marital status: married, spouse — Bertha de Morienne
Father: Heinrich von Franconia
Mother: Agnessa d’Aquitaine from Poitou


Gerard Matfrieding
Title: duke of Upper Lorraine
Province: Lorraine
Birth: 1022
Age at the startup: 44
Marital status: married, spouse — Hedwiga de Namur
Father: Gerhard von Metz
Mother: Gisela Alsace


Guillaume Bertrand de Provence
Title: count of Provence
Province: Provence
Birth: 1028
Age at the startup: 38
Marital status: married, spouse — Adalida Canaves
Father: Guillaume Bertrand de Provence
Mother: not known


Godfrey Idulfing the Bearded
Title: duke of Lower Lorraine
Province: Breda
Birth: 1021
Age at the startup: 45
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Diarmit MacMeil
Title: pennate of Laygin
Province: Laygin
Birth: 995
Age at the startup: 71
Marital status: married, spouse — Dearbfogale O’Brian ingen Donnchad
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Izyaskav Rurikovich
Title: grand prince of Russia
Province: Kiev
Birth: 1024
Age at the startup: 42
Marital status: single
Father: Yaroslav the Wise
Mother: Ingegerda of Sweden, daughter of Olav


Cadogan Meriadoc ap Morig
Title: prince of Morgannwg
Province: Glamorgan
Birth: 1042
Age at the startup: 24
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Konstantinos Dukas
Title: basileus of Byzantium
Province: Constantinople
Birth: 1006
Age at the startup: 60
Marital status: married, spouse — Eudoxia
Father: Andronikos Dukas
Mother: not known


Conchobar O'Brian
Title: pennate of Meath
Province: Dublin
Birth: 1020
Age at the startup: 46
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Culad
Title: pennate of Ulad
Province: Ulad
Birth: 1024
Age at the startup: 42
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Magnus Ingling
Title: king of Norway
Province: Oslo
Birth: 1049
Age at the startup: 17
Marital status: single
Father: Harald Haardrade, (Hard-ruler)
Mother: Thora, daughter of Thorberg


Malcolm MacCrinan Great-Head
Title: king of Scotland
Province: Lothian
Birth: 1031
Age at the startup: 35
Marital status: married, spouse — Ingeborga from Halland
Father: Duncan the Merciful
Mother: Aelfleda Syward


Maredudd Meriadoc ap Owen
Title: prince of Daheubarth
Province: Dyfed
Birth: 1040
Age at the startup: 26
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Murchaid MacDiarmit
Title: pennate of Isle of Man
Province: Isle of Man
Birth: 1025
Age at the startup: 41
Marital status: single
Father: Diarmit MacMeil
Mother: Dearbfogale O’Brian ingen Donnchad


Ordulf Billung
Title: duke of Sachsen
Province: Luneburg
Birth: 1021
Age at the startup: 45
Marital status: married, spouse — Gertruda von Haldensleben
Father: Bernhard Billung
Mother: Elika von Schweinfurth


Otto Aleramo
Title: margrave di Monferrato
Province: Monferrato
Birth: 1032
Age at the startup: 34
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Otton Orlamunde
Title: duke of Meisen
Province: Meisen
Birth: 1002
Age at the startup: 64
Marital status: single
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Petar Kresimir Trpimirovic
Title: king of Croatia
Province: Zagreb
Birth: 1020
Age at the startup: 46
Marital status: single
Father: Stefan Trpimirovic
Mother: not known


Pierre de Morien
Title: count of Savoy
Province: Savoy
Birth: 1033
Age at the startup: 33
Marital status: married, spouse — Agnessa d’Aquitaine
Father: Odon de Morien
Mother: Adelaisa Sousa


Ramon Berenguer the Old of Barcelona
Title: count of Barcelona
Province: Barcelona
Birth: 1023
Age at the startup: 43
Marital status: married, spouse — Almodis de la Marche
Father: Berenguer Ramon the Humpbacked of Barcelona
Mother: Sancha de Lara


Richard of Aversa
Title: duke of Capua
Province: Capua
Birth: 1032
Age at the startup: 34
Marital status: single
Father: Herman of Aversa
Mother: not known


Robert de Hauteville Guiscar
Title: duke of Apulia
Province: Apulia
Birth: 1015
Age at the startup: 51
Marital status: married, spouse — Sigelgeitha Salerno
Father: Tankred de Hauteville
Mother: not known


Rudolf Rhinefelden
Title: duke of Schwabien
Province: Schwabien
Birth: 1026
Age at the startup: 40
Marital status: married, spouse — Adelaida de Morien
Father: Kuno Rhinefelden
Mother: not known


Sancho Jimenez
Title: king of Navarre
Province: Pamplona
Birth: 1039
Age at the startup: 27
Marital status: single
Father: Garcia Jimenez
Mother: Stephanie de Fois


Sancho Jimenez Ramirez
Title: king of Aragon
Province: Aragon
Birth: 1042
Age at the startup: 24
Marital status: married, spouse — Isabelle Urgel
Father: Ramiro Jimenez
Mother: Hermessendis Roje


Sancho Jimenez the Strong
Title: king of Castilla
Province: Burgos
Birth: 1042
Age at the startup: 24
Marital status: single
Father: Fernando Jimenez the Great
Mother: Sancha Leon


Sven Estridsen
Title: king of Denmark
Province: Isle of Zeeland
Birth: 1018
Age at the startup: 48
Marital status: single
Father: Ulf Thorkilsson
Mother: Estrid Skioldung


Turlough O'Brian
Title: pennate of Munster
Province: Desmum
Birth: 1009
Age at the startup: 57
Marital status: single
Father: Terence O'Brian
Mother: not known


Udo Staden
Title: duke of Nordmark
Province: Brandenburg
Birth: 1035
Age at the startup: 31
Marital status: single
Father: Leopold Staden
Mother: not known


Philippe Capet the Honest
Title: king of France
Province: Ile-de-France
Birth: 1052
Age at the startup: 14
Marital status: single
Father: Henry Capet
Mother: Anna Ryurikovich


Halsten of Western Gotland, son of Stenkil
Title: king of Sweden
Province: Uppland
Birth: 1048
Age at the startup: 18
Marital status: single
Father: Stenkil of Western Gotland, son of Ragnavald
Mother: Eva-Lena of Sweden, daughter of Emund


Salamon Arpad
Title: king of Hungary
Province: Pest
Birth: 1042
Age at the startup: 24
Marital status: single
Father: Andras Arpad
Mother: Anastacia Ryurikovich


Ernest Babenberg the Noble
Title: count of Austria
Province: Austria
Birth: 1024
Age at the startup: 42
Marital status: married, spouse — Mathilda Luzas
Father: not known
Mother: not known


Regards:D
 
Originally posted by Ladislav
so? we're waiting:confused:

EDIT: wow. youre quick :D


Paradox might have been dead for a weekend - or my ISP - so couldn't get through: waiting was so sweet, eh? ;)