Interregnum's Post-Crusade Papal States

unmerged(16159) · Sep 1, 2006

Interregnum: The Papal States

These are the first events, triggered if neither Bavaria or Savoy take up the challenge to defend the catholics of Iberia during the Crusade

########################################################################
# Conciliar Theory
########################################################################

event = {
id = 464201 #milder version, when the pope agrees with the Emperor not to go on Crusade
trigger = {
domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 }
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = "Conciliar Theorists"
desc = " Conciliar Theory had raged for more then 60 years, as a battle over control over liturgical and spiritual interpretation. When it was clear that neither Emperor Albrecht nor King Louis would be answering Felix's vain call to Crusade, Nicholaus realised his predeccesor Felix had made a crucial political error in calling for the Crusade. He had given strength to the bishops who embraced Conciliar Theory, which sought to weaken papal authority and have ecclesiastical thought controlled by a Council rather than a single figure. With his authority already weak, Nicholaus chose a path of least resistance, which would most likely preserve his own power. He allowed a looming Laternan council on liturgy to include a debate on ecclesiastical leadership. It was a Council Nicholaus would not live to see. "
date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1454 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the debate "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 24 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Papal Authority is absolute! "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 24 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464211 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464212 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464213 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464202 #harsher version, when the pope is rebuffed by both Bavaria and Savoy
trigger = {
domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 }
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = "Conciliar Theorists"
desc = " Conciliar Theory had raged for more then 60 years, as a battle over control over liturgical and spiritual interpretation. When it was clear that neither Emperor Albrecht nor King Louis would be answering Felix's vain call to Crusade, Nicholaus realised his predeccesor Felix had made a crucial political error in calling for the Crusade. He had given strength to the bishops who embraced Conciliar Theory, which sought to weaken papal authority and have ecclesiastical thought controlled by a Council rather than a single figure. With his authority already weak, Nicholaus chose a path of least resistance, which would most likely preserve his own power. He allowed a looming Laternan council on the East/West Schism to include a debate on ecclesiastical leadership. It was a Council Nicholaus would not live to see. "
date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1454 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the debate "
command = { type = DIP which = -2 value = 48 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Sep 1, 2006

The the Concilar bishops force a Laternan Council on the Pope. Some of the things discussed Pius is happy to agree to, and others he resists. His actions depend a little on whether the Papal States is flagged as 'conservative' 'moderate' or 'reform'

Firstly, the whole issue of Concilar Theory and control of the Councils.

########################################################################
# The Fifth Laternan Council
########################################################################

event = {
id = 464211
trigger = {
flag = conservative
NOT = {
OR = {
event = 464212
event = 464213
}
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Controlling the Synods"
desc = " The long overdue fifth Laternan Council was originally created to again debate the reintegration of the Eastern Church into the Roman Cathoic Church, but soon became overwhelmed with the political battle between Pius and the Bishops over control of theological interpretation. Pius attempted to crash his way through the unrest, and began to aggressively collect support from the Italian and French clergy to repudiate the german bishops. His closest advisors however, attempted to push him to conciliation. The bishops relentlessly turned to the subject of reform, their principal goal being to further curtail the power and resources of the papacy. The first battle was fought over the nature of future synods and councils. "
date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1458 }

action_a = {
name = " Resist their demands "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 5 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Allow the Bishops to call Council "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_c = {
name = " Allow the Bishops to run Councils "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -2 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = -5 }
command = { type = clrflag which = conservative }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
}
action_d = {
name = " End the Council "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 10 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464221 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464222 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464223 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464224 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464212
trigger = {
flag = moderate
NOT = {
OR = {
event = 464211
event = 464213
}
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Controlling the Synods"
desc = " The long overdue fifth Laternan Council was originally created to again debate the reintegration of the Eastern Church into the Roman Cathoic Church, but soon became overwhelmed with the political battle between Pius and the Bishops over control of theological interpretation. Pius attempted to negotiate his way through the unrest, and began to pray for support from the Italian and French clergy to repudiate the german bishops. His closest advisors attempted to push him to conciliation. The bishops relentlessly turned to the subject of reform, their principal goal being to further curtail the power and resources of the papacy. The first battle was fought over the nature of future synods and councils. "
date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1458 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the Bishops to call Council "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Allow the Bishops to run Councils "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -2 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = -5 }
command = { type = clrflag which = conservative }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
}
action_c = {
name = " Resist their demands "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 5 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = moderate }
command = { type = setflag which = conservative }
}
action_d = {
name = " End the Council "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 10 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464221 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464222 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464223 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464224 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464213
trigger = {
flag = reform
NOT = {
OR = {
event = 464211
event = 464212
}
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Controlling the Synods"
desc = " The long overdue fifth Laternan Council was originally created to again debate the reintegration of the Eastern Church into the Roman Cathoic Church, but soon became overwhelmed with the political battle between Pius and the Bishops over control of theological interpretation. Pius attempted to negotiate his way through the unrest, and began to pray for support from the Italian and French clergy to repudiate the german bishops. His closest advisors attempted to push him to conciliation. The bishops relentlessly turned to the subject of reform, their principal goal being to further curtail the power and resources of the papacy. The first battle was fought over the nature of future synods and councils. "
date = { day = 1 month = december year = 1458 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the Bishops to run Councils "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -2 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = -5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Allow the Bishops to call Council "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_c = {
name = " Resist their demands "
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 5 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
}
action_d = {
name = " End the Council "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 10 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464221 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464222 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464223 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464224 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Sep 1, 2006

Then a debate over liturgy...

event = {
id = 464221
trigger = {
flag = conservative
NOT = {
OR = {
event = 464222
event = 464223
event = 464224
}
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Divine Service "
desc = " Flushed with their success with control of the Councils, the bishops turned to the subject of reform of the divine service, and area of liturgical interpretation previously controlled by Papal authority. This time Pius was in covert agreement with their aims, and made only minor resistance to the Councils reforms. "
date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1460 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the Council to reform the liturgy. "
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = conservative }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
}
action_b = {
name = " Resist their demands "
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 2 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_c = {
name = " End the Council "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 5 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464231 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464232 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464222
trigger = {
flag = moderate
domestic = { type = innovative value = 6 }
NOT = {
OR = {
event = 464221
event = 464223
event = 464224
}
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Divine Service "
desc = " Flushed with their success with control of the Councils, the bishops turned to the subject of reform of the divine service, and area of liturgical interpretation previously controlled by Papal authority. This time Pius was in agreement with their aims, and made no resistance to the Councils reforms. "
date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1460 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the Council reform the liturgy. "
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = -2 }
command = { type = clrflag which = moderate }
command = { type = setflag which = reform }
}
action_b = {
name = " Resist their demands "
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 2 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464223
trigger = {
flag = moderate
NOT = {
domestic = { type = innovative value = 6 }
}
NOT = {
OR = {
event = 464221
event = 464222
event = 464224
}
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Divine Service "
desc = " Flushed with their success with control of the Councils, the bishops turned to the subject of reform of the divine service, and area of liturgical interpretation previously controlled by Papal authority. This time Pius was in agreement with their aims, and made no resistance to the Councils reforms. "
date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1460 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the Council reform the liturgy. "
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = moderate }
command = { type = setflag which = reform }
}
action_b = {
name = " Resist their demands "
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 2 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_c = {
name = " End the Council "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 5 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464231 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464232 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464224
trigger = {
flag = reform
NOT = {
OR = {
event = 464221
event = 464222
event = 464223
}
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Divine Service "
desc = " Flushed with their success with control of the Councils, the bishops turned to the subject of reform of the divine service, and area of liturgical interpretation previously controlled by Papal authority. This time Pius was in open agreement with their aims, and made no resistance to the Councils reforms. "
date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1460 }

action_a = {
name = " Insist the Council to reform the liturgy. "
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Resist their demands "
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 5 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Sep 1, 2006

and then the prickly issue of money. This event will trigger another after the Crusade which finally abandons the concept of Indulgences, or reasserts it.

event = {
id = 464231
trigger = {
NOT = { aristocracy = 6 }
NOT = { event = 464232 }
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Reform of the Levy "
desc = " Pope Pius was always short of funds, and used the Laternan Council to make a pleas that in good times the Prince-Bishops should contribute more to the running of the church. He chose a moment after the council had scored some victories of political and liturgical control. "
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1461 }

action_a = {
name = " Increase the levy. "
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 399 value = -1 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 399 value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " The demand is resisted "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_c = {
name = " End the Council "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 5 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464241 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464242 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464243 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464232
trigger = {
aristocracy = 6
NOT = { event = 464231 }
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Fifth Laternan Council - Reform of the Levy "
desc = " Pope Pius was always short of funds, and used the Laternan Council to make a pleas that in good times the Prince-Bishops should contribute more to the running of the church. He chose a moment after the council had scored some victories of political and liturgical control. "
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1461 }

action_a = {
name = " Increase the levy. "
command = { type = provincetax which = 399 value = -1 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 399 value = 5 }
}
action_b = {
name = " The demand is resisted "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_c = {
name = " End the Council "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 5 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464241 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464242 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464243 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Sep 11, 2006

And then we get to Sixtus, an autocratic reformer, who pisses the bureaucrats off, who retaliate with a few intrigues. He is forced to abdicate, but the humanist reformes he triggers wakes Italy to the changes happening with the german clergy.

These are the early events in his reign.

########################################################################
# The Abdication
########################################################################

event = {
id = 464301
trigger = {
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " Domestic Papal Authority "
desc = " Sixtus used an increasingly domestic autocratic power as Pope to make a number of bureaucratic reforms, including the appointment of his nephews - the della Rovere - as Cardinals. The bureaucratic changes gave the Pope greater executive control over the Papal States (reversing some of the work by his predessesors), but made the process of running the country slower. It began a power struggle that was to destroy a Pope and lead the way to the reform of a religion. "
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1479 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1480 }

action_a = {
name = " Make these changes "
command = { type = ADM which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Cede to the demands of the bureaucrats "
command = { type = ADM which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464311
trigger = {
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " Sixtus' Military Reforms "
desc = " Sixtus was an alarmingly aggressive Pope, even by the standards of his day, and used his authority as Pope to demand Italian territory which he believed God meant for Papal control. To this end he reformed the Vatican army, developed a secret police, and made a case diplomatically that Romagna, Siena and even Florence belonged to the Pope. "
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1481 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1482 }

action_a = {
name = " Make these changes "
command = { type = domestic which = offensive value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = land value = 1 }
command = { type = addcore which = 401 } #Firenze
command = { type = addcore which = 402 } #Emilia
command = { type = addcore which = 390 } #Mantua
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = TOS value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = -50 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Stifle these changes "
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464351 } #Assasinating the Medici
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464321
trigger = {
flag = conservative
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " Sixtus' Social Reforms "
desc = " Sixtus patronised the arts and sciences like no other Pope in his immediate era. This heralded a resurgence in the burgeoning humanist thought in the catholic church. Despite the resistance of the papal court, he encouraged clerics who sought to (mildly) critique the church. In this he found allies within the german Bishops, but not the Italian bureaucrats."
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1482 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1483 }

action_a = {
name = " Make these changes "
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = conservative }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -50 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Stifle these reforms "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 50 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464322
trigger = {
flag = moderate
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " Sixtus' Social Reforms "
desc = " Sixtus patronised the arts and sciences like no other Pope in his immediate era. These teaching heralded a resurgence in the burgeoning humanist thought in the catholic church. Despite the resistance of the papal court, he encouraged clerics who sought to (mildly) critique the church. In this he found allies within the german Bishops, but not the Italian bureaucrats."
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1482 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1483 }

action_a = {
name = " Make these changes "
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = moderate }
command = { type = setflag which = reform }
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -50 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Stifle these reforms "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 50 }
}
}
event = {
id = 464323
trigger = {
flag = reform
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " Sixtus' Social Reforms "
desc = " Sixtus patronised the arts and sciences like no other Pope in his immediate era. These teaching heralded a resurgence in the burgeoning humanist thought in the catholic church. Despite the resistance of the papal court, he encouraged clerics who sought to (mildly) critique the church. In this he found allies within the german Bishops, but not the Italian bureaucrats."
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1482 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1483 }

action_a = {
name = " Make these changes "
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 60 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -50 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Stifle these reforms "
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 50 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Sep 14, 2006

Not fully fleshed out, but we have some significant events at the end of Sixtus' reign as Pope.

1. His nephew attempts to assasinate Lorenzo Medici and fails, with all the evidence pointing back at Sixtus.

2. His abdication and period of unrest.

3. His final signing of the Papal Bull authorising the German Inquisition - a potential Bavarian event as a reaction to the crusade, and the hiring of religious fanatic mercenaries earlier in the game.

We then lead (tomorrow morning, time permitting) into Innocentus, humanism, and (at last) the 16th century...

event = {
id = 464331
trigger = {
event = 464301
NOT = { owned = { province = 401 data = PAP } }
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " Assasinating the Medici "
desc = " The powerful Medici family ran Florence for the Haseatic City-states, and began to rival Genoa's trading influences, well out of proportion to it's size. Sixtus' secular greed saw it as a plum ready for picking, and covertly promised the city to his nephew Cardinal Raffaele Riario della Rovere provided he took care of Lorenzo de' Medici and his brother. However Raffaele's clumsy assasination plot failed, and the threads of blame turmed to Rome. "
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1479 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1480 }

action_a = {
name = " Let the Archbishop of Pisa take the blame "
command = { type = treasury value = -100 } #Bribe witnesses
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = TOS value = -20 }
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 60 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Let Cardinal Raffaele take the blame "
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = TOS value = -100 }
command = { type = removecore which = 401 } #Firenze
command = { type = DIP which = -2 value = 60 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464341 } #Palace Intrique
}
action_c = {
name = " Say it was the Genoese "
command = { type = trade value = -1000 } #shut out of trading centre
command = { type = merchants value = -6 }
command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = TOS value = -10 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464341
trigger = {
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " Palace Intriques "
desc = " By 1483, the arch-conservative clerics within the Papal States bureaucracy had enough evidence of Sixtus' schemes to pursuade the italian Cardinals to constrain his leadership. As Pope, Sixtus was above the law, and was not answerable to any secular court. However he saw the danger that his hopes for ecclesiastical reform would suffer if his allies at the Eucemenical Councils disappeared. Being of poor health anyway, he became the first pope since Gregory XII to abdicate. With the Abdication he hoped to leave the Papal seat untainted, his reputation publically intact, and the reforms progressing. "
date = { day = 12 month = october year = 1483 }

action_a = {
name = " Abdicate "
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464342 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Stay "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464343 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464342
trigger = {
NOT = { flag = reform }
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Inquisition. "
desc = " After another attempt to outlast his opponents, Sixtus finally saw ran into a wall of opposition when confronted by the german arch-conservative bishops, determined to stamp out local herecies. Sixtus finally signed the papal bull Ad abolendam - The German Inquisition. "
date = { day = 29 month = november year = 1483 }

action_a = {
name = " Sign it. "
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -2 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464351
trigger = {
flag = conservative
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The factional conclave "
desc = " When the popular Sixtus IV abdicated, the Vatican was rudderless for a year while cardinals debated. Factions developed and there were riots in the street. Many expected Sixtus' nephew, Cardinal Giuliano della Rovere to be the new Pope, but he was outmanuevered by the only man in the room with better connections, Giovanni Battista Cibo. "
date = { day = 11 month = november year = 1484 }

action_a = {
name = " Cardinal Giovanni Battista Cibo "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464352
trigger = {
flag = moderate
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The factional conclave "
desc = " When the popular Sixtus IV abdicated, the Vatican was rudderless for a year while cardinals debated. Factions developed and there were riots in the street. Many expected Sixtus' nephew, Cardinal Giuliano della Rovere to be the new Pope, but he was outmanuevered by the only man in the room with better connections, Giovanni Battista Cibo. "
date = { day = 11 month = november year = 1484 }

action_a = {
name = " Cardinal Giovanni Battista Cibo "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = moderate }
command = { type = setflag which = conservative }
}
action_b = {
name = " Cardinal Giuliano della Rovere "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464353
trigger = {
flag = reform
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The factional conclave "
desc = " When the popular Sixtus IV abdicated, the Vatican was rudderless for a year while cardinals debated. Factions developed and there were riots in the street. Many expected Sixtus' nephew, Cardinal Giuliano della Rovere to be the new Pope, but he was challenged by the only man in the room with better connections, Giovanni Battista Cibo. "
date = { day = 11 month = november year = 1484 }

action_a = {
name = " Cardinal Giuliano della Rovere "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
}
action_b = {
name = " Cardinal Giovanni Battista Cibo "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = setflag which = moderate }
}
}

MattyG · Sep 17, 2006

mikl

I find this event sequence to be quite strong and convincing. You are doing a great job, and I have added the most recently-posted events to the PAP file.

The monarch Calixtus is still formant in the monarchs.pap file and nothing to wke him. Is he out, or is something in the works?

Finally, I think that nost of the key events here need to have an important change from country = PAP to province = 339. Otherwise, if there is no Papal States then none of the events fire, despite there being a pope.

Matty

unmerged(16159) · Sep 18, 2006

MattyG said:
The monarch Calixtus is still formant in the monarchs.pap file and nothing to wke him. Is he out, or is something in the works?

Not sure why he is still formant. I'll look it up.

MattyG said:
Finally, I think that nost of the key events here need to have an important change from country = PAP to province = 339. Otherwise, if there is no Papal States then none of the events fire, despite there being a pope.

Matty

Now this is an interesting issue. Sure, there is a Pope if the Papal States doesn't exist. But depending upon the new owner of province 399, the Pope is likely to relocate back to Avignon, or neutral Koln, or Mainz or Munich or wherever is safer, or where he might be held de=facto hostage, or powerless.

So most of the events to do with arguments with the Emperor, and sparking Crusades can be done with a Pope not in control of Papal States. Thus province = 399 is ok. BUt some won't. They might change in character completely.

Some of these post-Crusade events are being written for Popes with secular as well as ecclesiastical power, and have to do with the political machinations among the Italian merchant princes, and securing the territorial future of the Papal States. Should the Papal States disappear, or perhaps be reduced to a single province, then the Pope would be less likely to be too cocky. We might have to look at the events on an individual basis.

Sounding complicated.

MattyG · Sep 18, 2006

mikl said:
Not sure why he is still formant. I'll look it up.

Now this is an interesting issue. Sure, there is a Pope if the Papal States doesn't exist. But depending upon the new owner of province 399, the Pope is likely to relocate back to Avignon, or neutral Koln, or Mainz or Munich or wherever is safer, or where he might be held de=facto hostage, or powerless.

So most of the events to do with arguments with the Emperor, and sparking Crusades can be done with a Pope not in control of Papal States. Thus province = 399 is ok. BUt some won't. They might change in character completely.

Some of these post-Crusade events are being written for Popes with secular as well as ecclesiastical power, and have to do with the political machinations among the Italian merchant princes, and securing the territorial future of the Papal States. Should the Papal States disappear, or perhaps be reduced to a single province, then the Pope would be less likely to be too cocky. We might have to look at the events on an individual basis.

Sounding complicated.

Agreed. But you are up to the task.

MattyG · Oct 13, 2006

mikl,

Papal States event 464212 has the following error:

The trigger is for flag = moderate, but action_b has commands to clear conservative and set moderate as a flag.

unmerged(16159) · Oct 16, 2006

MattyG said:
mikl,

Papal States event 464212 has the following error:

The trigger is for flag = moderate, but action_b has commands to clear conservative and set moderate as a flag.

got it, thanks.

MattyG · Oct 16, 2006

I thought last week you were going to post some events you were having trouble with?

unmerged(16159) · Oct 17, 2006

MattyG said:
I thought last week you were going to post some events you were having trouble with?

stopped having trouble with them, then stopped having time.

am now 3 months behind schedule, or 1 week ahead, depending upon how you look at it.

posting Protestant Pope series on Friday, then Germania series a week later, both including new events for BAY, SWA, SAV, SAC, and PAP.

MattyG · Oct 17, 2006

F***en' sweet.

unmerged(16159) · Oct 20, 2006

MattyG said:
F***en' sweet.

...and another 72 hour delay. Unable to code during working hours, due to sudden deadline.. How cheap is my employer, when they won't let me do what I want on their time?

But it does look sweet.

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

No, it's taking too long. I am really having trouble getting screen time, and while I have volumes of noes written in train carriages, I am struggling to get enough code written to finish by the end of October. I will keep at it.

This is what I have so far...

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

The Crusade is over, and the Pope's political strength is measured by the success of his rivals...

#############################################################
# The Crusade is Over
#############################################################

event = {
id = 464381
trigger = {
OR = {
event = 881801
event = 881802
event = 881803
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Emperor in Triumph "
desc = " As the Crusaders began to trickle back from Iberia, it became clear that the conflict was over and won, and the Bavarian Emperor had secured a vast new power base after his successes. While this was a victory for the religious, it was a political disaster for the papacy, since power in Europe was swinging to an Imperial secular base, rather than religious, even though the Bavarians were conservative and devout. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1490 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1491 }

action_a = {
name = " God's ways are mysterious "
command = { type = DIP which = -2 value = 120 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464382
trigger = {
OR = {
event = 881811
event = 881812
event = 881813
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The Emperor in Disgrace "
desc = " As the Crusaders began to trickle back from Iberia, it became clear that the conflict was over and lost, and the Bavarian Emperor had endangered a his power base after his failures. While this was a defeat for the religious, is was a political victory for the papacy, since power in Europe was swinging away from a central Imperial secular base, and the Pope could use this moment of uncertainty. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1490 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1491 }

action_a = {
name = " God is wise "
command = { type = DIP which = 2 value = 120 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464383
trigger = {
OR = {
event = 881822
event = 881823
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The King of Savoy in Triumph "
desc = " As the Crusaders began to trickle back from Iberia, it became clear that the conflict was over and won, and the King of Savoy had secured a new power base after his successes. While this was a victory for the religious, is was a political disaster for the papacy, since power in Europe was swinging to an centralised secular base, rather than religious. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1490 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1491 }

action_a = {
name = " God's ways are mysterious "
command = { type = DIP which = -1 value = 120 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464384
trigger = {
OR = {
event = 881832
event = 881833
}
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = " The King of Savoy in Disgrace "
desc = " As the Crusaders began to trickle back from Iberia, it became clear that the conflict was over and lost, and the king of Savoy had endangered a potential power base after the failures. While this was a defeat for the religious, is was a political victory for the papacy, since power in Europe was swinging away from a central Imperial secular base, and the Pope could use this moment of uncertainty. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1490 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1491 }

action_a = {
name = " God is wise "
command = { type = DIP which = 1 value = 120 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

In this series, IF reformist, the Pope flexes his muscle and makes the teachings at the more heretical Universities (Where Reuchlin, Erasmus, Copernicus and Luther will soon study), supported by the church.

#############################################################
# The Protestant Pope series
# Humanism or Traditionalism in face of Crusade success
#############################################################

event = {
id = 464401
trigger = {
event = 464382
flag = reform
domestic = { type = innovative value = 7 }
infra = 3
NOT = {
domestic = { type = serfdom value = 6 }
}
}
random = no
province = 399
name = " A Time of Uncertainty "
desc = " Felix used the Sixth Laternan Council to respond to the confusion following the defeats in the Crusades, hoping to maintain his role as an initiator of sectarian dialogue. He saw that this was the moment to promote the theological teachings at some of the more progressive colleges in Europe. He influenced a debate on a proposal to accept the heretical teachings of the University of Paris, and the immoral teachings of the University of Padua. The last of the pontiff's conservative bureaucrats advised him to reassure the people, and support the conservative Imperial. The consequences of the success of this Council were to resonate for the next century. "
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1491 }

action_a = {
name = " Promote their teachings "
command = { type = treasury value = -100 } #stipend to promote
command = { type = diplomats value = -2 }
command = { type = infra value = 200 }
command = { type = population which = 399 value = -1000 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralisation value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SAC value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SAV value = 50 }
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = setflag which = humanist }
}
action_b = {
name = " Reassure the people "
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 50 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464411 } #The Universities
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464412 } #The Universities
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464413 } #The Universities
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = setflag which = traditional }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464402
trigger = {
NOT = { event = 464401}
}
random = no
province = 399
name = " A Time of Uncertainty "
desc = " Felix used the Sixth Laternan Council to respond to the confusion following the defeats in the Crusades, hoping to maintain his role as an initiator of sectarian dialogue. He saw that this was the moment to support the Emperor, reassure the people and bring stability to an otherwise choatic time. He influenced a debate on a the heretical teachings of the University of Paris, and the immoral teachings of the University of Padua to delay any acceptance of their radical works. His more reformist clerics attempts to dissaude him, but he judged it not to be the time for change. "
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1491 }

action_a = {
name = " Reassure the people "
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 50 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464411 } #The Universities
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464412 } #The Universities
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464413 } #The Universities
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = clrflag which = moderate }
command = { type = clrflag which = conservative }
command = { type = setflag which = traditional }
}
action_b = {
name = " Promote their teachings "
command = { type = treasury value = -100 } #stipend
command = { type = diplomats value = -2 }
command = { type = infra value = 200 }
command = { type = population which = 399 value = -1000 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralisation value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SWA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SAC value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SAV value = 50 }
command = { type = clrflag which = reform }
command = { type = clrflag which = moderate }
command = { type = clrflag which = conservative }
command = { type = setflag which = humanist }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

..to which the owners of the provinces with those Universities react...

#############################################################
# Humanist Writings and the beginnings of protest
#############################################################

event = {
id = 464411
trigger = { }
random = no
province = 385
name = " Humanism not heretical "
desc = " In the wake of the Crusade, the Sixth Laternan Council declared the near heretical teachings of the University of Paris to be in line with Christs own Word. The professors breathed a sigh of relief, and enrolments grew. "
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1497 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1498 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the University to teach "
command = { type = population which = 385 value = 500 }
command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -20 }
}
action_b = {
name = " This is still too dangerous "
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464421 } #Reuchlin
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464422 } #Erasmus
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 20 }
command = { type = revolt which = 385 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464412
trigger = { }
random = no
province = 307
name = " Renaisance Arts not immoral "
desc = " In the wake of the Crusade, the Sixth Laternan Council declared the arts and philosophies taught at the University of Padua to be not 'immoral'. The professors breathed a sigh of relief, and enrolments grew. "
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1497 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1498 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the University to teach "
command = { type = population which = 307 value = 500 }
command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -20 }
}
action_b = {
name = " This is still too dangerous "
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464423 } #Copernicus
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 20 }
command = { type = revolt which = 307 }
}
}

event = {
id = 464413
trigger = { }
random = no
province = 331
name = " Humanism not heretical "
desc = " In the wake of the Crusade, the Sixth Laternan Council declared the near heretical teachings of the University of Wittenberg to be in line with Christs own Word. The professors breathed a sigh of relief, and enrolments grew. "
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1497 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1498 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow the University to teach "
command = { type = population which = 331 value = 500 }
command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -20 }
}
action_b = {
name = " This is still too dangerous "
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464431 } #Luther BA
command = { type = sleepevent which = 464432 } #Luther PhD
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -20 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 20 }
command = { type = revolt which = 331 }
}
}

unmerged(16159) · Oct 23, 2006

This is for Johannes Reuchlin. There will be others for Erasmus, Copernicus, and a series representing Luther's Education and papal support. Or not.

event = {
id = 464421
trigger = {
flag = humanist
}
random = no
province = 399
name = " Johannes Reuchlin "
desc = " In 1506, Johann Reuchlin, a translator and educator based in Stuttgart, published a Hebrew lexicon enabling christians to benefit from the original hebrew texts, and vice versa. This inflamed the Dominicans who felt the first step in the conversion of the Jews was to take away their literature, and threatened the clerics, who felt that they should control the interpretation of the Old Testament. In 1510 the Emperor extracted him from Swabia and sent him to Rome for judgement, expecting him to be banned. "
date = { day = 16 month = september year = 1510 }

action_a = {
name = " Allow his work to flourish "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = " Give him a Bishopric "
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -1 }
}
action_c = {
name = " Suppress his writings "
command = { type = stability value = -1
}
action_d = {
name = " Excommunicate him "
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = 1 }
command = { type = clrflag which = humanist }
command = { type = setflag which = traditional }
}
}

Interregnum's Post-Crusade Papal States

Eldermann

Eldermann

Eldermann

Eldermann

Eldermann

Eldermann

Attention is love.

Eldermann

Attention is love.

Attention is love.

Eldermann

Attention is love.

Eldermann

Attention is love.

Eldermann

Eldermann

Eldermann

Eldermann

Eldermann

Eldermann