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@Krantz:
26 river provs in a small area like Europe seem really too much,
so we'll have 1 prov named Euroriver for all european rivers.
I'll draw rivers on my map again, but deleting unuseful names.
Did You download EurAsia image?
Will You it in a big size by me by ICQ (1Mb in jpeg format)?
 
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I need native names for cities of provs Ermeland (?Erme), Halicz (or Galizien) and Zemgale (or Semgallia) along Dougava river.

I need right text for Zolyom, Sopron or Szaszfold (with the right o) by Jorian.

I won't give 1 precious prov to territories with an extension under 1000kmq.
 
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Elio Vasa said:
Can You know how many provs are You in overflow in a single squared block by map tools?
just test import to blank map. that will inform you exactly how many provs there.
max 255 provs per idgrid region block with overlapping area.
idgridregion 2048x2048 pixels
idgrid with overlapping area 2560x2560 pixels
 
Elio Vasa said:
I need native names for cities of provs Ermeland (?Erme), Halicz (or Galizien) and Zemgale (or Semgallia) along Dougava river.

I need right text for Zolyom, Sopron or Szaszfold (with the right o) by Jorian.
If im right you want to know how to write those correctly?

Zólyom, Sopron or Szászföld
 
agung pasha said:
just test import to blank map. that will inform you exactly how many provs there.
max 255 provs per idgrid region block with overlapping area.
idgridregion 2048x2048 pixels
idgrid with overlapping area 2560x2560 pixels

Can you give me more information about the overlapping area!

And where does thouse idgrid starts.

If only using 2048x2048 many times after each other I will have a pice left on the map!

Your europe is nearly four idgrid and three off them are full, but i have more then four in europe after resizing the map yesterday!

2560x2560 on all sides of the 2048x2048 idgrid?

When looking after how many provinces you have in a idgrid how do you do?
Do you count them or using any special tool?
Or copy the area to a new file and test to import it to a blank map to get a number of id from magellan?
 
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DVolk said:
Karelia - city is Olonets

Looking at the map, the city cannot be Olonets (Aunus in Finnish), because Olonets is somewhere further east, between Lake Ladoga and Lake Onega. The city in the area named on the map as Karelia should be Käkisalmi/Kexholm.

And the province should be called Karjala or rather Laatokan Karjala (Ladoga Karelia).

Estlandia - Tallin

Eesti - Tallinn

Liflandia - ???

Liivimaa - maybe Tartu?


As for Finland, I *really* think tehre should be more provinces than two, Norrfinne and Sörfinne. And if we want to have local names on the map, the should definitely not be called those, but rather Pohjois-Suomi and Etelä-Suomi respectively. City in Etelä-Suomi would be Turku/Åbo, of course, but I'm not quite sure what it shoud be in Pohjois-Suomi. Maybe Ulvila/Ulvsby) or Rauma/Raumo, of which Ulvila is older (founded 1365), but later superseded by Rauma (founded 1442) and Pori/Björneborg.

But I think there should be at least Suomi, Satakunta, Pohjanmaa and Uusimaa. Häme and Savo would be nice, but Häme can be split between Suomi, Satakunta, Pohjanmaa and Uusimaa, while Savo can be split between Pohjanmaa and Karjala. The cities would be Turku in Suomi, Ulvila in Satakunta, Mustasaari/Korsholm in Pohjanmaa and either Porvoo/Borgå (founded 1346) or Raasepori/Raseborg in Uusimaa.

Viipuri/Viborg was not in the Uusimaa province, but in (Southern) Karelia/Karelian isthmus.


Piedro
 
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Before Erik of Pommern, king over Union of Kalmar reformed Finland in 14** there was only one province in Finland.
This province was ruled from Åbo.

But Erik of Pommern reformed Finland to have two provinces and the border was the river in Åbo.

Finland was not so important for Sweden as the central part so i will only give Finland those two provinces.

Well Finland was governed from Stockholm and we tried to get rid of the finnish language, but i don't like the name Söderfinne and Norrfinne.

So i like the idea to change the name of the provinces in Finland, but if Pohjois-Suomi and Etelä-Suomi is the right names for them I don't know.

If Sweden should own these provinces in Finland i don't know, for Novgorod had also the right to those provinces and also Norrland in Sweden.

But it was also a peace writed between Sweden and Novgorod that i don't remeber, and don't know where the border where placed.
 
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Krantz said:
Before Erik of Pommern, king over Union of Kalmar reformed Finland in 14** there was only one province in Finland.
This province was ruled from Åbo.

But Erik of Pommern reformed Finland to have two provinces and the border was the river in Åbo.

Finland was not so important for Sweden as the central part so i will only give Finland those two provinces.

Well Finland was governed from Stockholm and we tried to get rid of the finnish language, but i don't like the name Söderfinne and Norrfinne.

So i like the idea to change the name of the provinces in Finland, but if Pohjois-Suomi and Etelä-Suomi is the right names for them I don't know.

If Sweden should own these provinces in Finland i don't know, for Novgorod had also the right to those provinces and also Norrland in Sweden.

But it was also a peace writed between Sweden and Novgorod that i don't remeber, and don't know where the border where placed.

That might be but... Finland was an important part of Sweden nevertheless. Finland deserves at least four provinces. :)
 
SunZyl said:
That might be but... Finland was an important part of Sweden nevertheless. Finland deserves at least four provinces. :)
Yeah, every Swedish war was fought to the last Finn. ;)
 
Just thought I'd add that on the North American map, 'Bangor' is a colonial name. (I live there). Penobscot or maybe Norumbega would be better. I think Acadie is French too, so you might want to drop that.

From the look of it, representing anything like actualy US borders won't be possible on that map, but you may be okay with that.
 
Elio, straight lines as borders are extremly ugly, you also have three 'crosses' where four provinces meet.
 
Continents positions and size

@Krantz:
Sry if You looked for me in ICQ, but my conn was infected and I must go to assistance.
This image was built losing time after different Earth projections to avoid distorsions. You can think it as last version.
We should create a minimap too.
 
me said:
I think the Swedish setup is kind of weird. I like it when the provinces are at least partly based on population and population density and stuff like that.
Why is Finland only two provinces? At least Finland + Åland as well as Nyland could be made separate provinces. And I'm unfamiliar with the names Norr- and Söderfinne.

Why is Jemtland and Herjedalen separate? Herjedalen is the part of Scandinavia with the lowest population, so how do you justify it being separate?

Although Bergslagen wasn't an official province, it would be nice to have it in, covering Gästrikland, western Uppland and Södermanland, Närke and Västmanland, then Dalarna and Värmland could be merged as Dalarna/Dalecarlia or Värmland (preferrably Dalarna).
This would allow for a Svealand province covering eastern Södermanland and most of Uppland.

I haven't seen Tiohärad as a province before in any source of mine and I'd rather like a separate Kalmar and Jönköping, for me the population in the area is too low to justify it as a province of its own. Or just a Småland province, if you still want to lower the amount of provinces, I think you said that a while back. Blekinge could also be merged with Skåne, the two have always been together since 1419.

The stuff I like is Östergötland as separate, and the shapes and names of Hälsingland, Västergötland and Kväneland. Oh, and Ingria and Kexholm too :D

I didn't get a reply to my comments, would like some :D

Krantz said:
Before Erik of Pommern, king over Union of Kalmar reformed Finland in 14** there was only one province in Finland.
This province was ruled from Åbo.

But Erik of Pommern reformed Finland to have two provinces and the border was the river in Åbo.

Finland was not so important for Sweden as the central part so i will only give Finland those two provinces.

Well Finland was governed from Stockholm and we tried to get rid of the finnish language, but i don't like the name Söderfinne and Norrfinne.

So i like the idea to change the name of the provinces in Finland, but if Pohjois-Suomi and Etelä-Suomi is the right names for them I don't know.

If Sweden should own these provinces in Finland i don't know, for Novgorod had also the right to those provinces and also Norrland in Sweden.

But it was also a peace writed between Sweden and Novgorod that i don't remeber, and don't know where the border where placed.

Nöteborgstraktaten is what you're looking for.
 
@Krantz:
Very sry, my conn is still ko. :(
I'm drawing sea zones in Indian O. today.
About oveflow Agung Pasha's map should have 375 provs in Europe, me around 335 (apart from saving other provs from sea zones and rivers).
I have world image of bigger size starting from yellow background (too big to edit it here), maybe I'll try tomorrow by e-mail.
 
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Elio Vasa said:
@Krantz:
Very sry, my conn is still ko. :(
I'm drawing sea zones in Indian O. today.
About oveflow Agung Pasha's map should have 375 provs in Europe, me around 335 (apart from saving other provs from sea zones and rivers).
I have world image of bigger size starting from yellow background (too big to edit it here), maybe I'll try tomorrow by e-mail.
About the file minimapfull, even if sizes are little different ...


If you have drawed nicer border on some places then the first pictures, I will be happy, then I will have a easier job!

I will start so fast as Iberia Universalis is finished, and I have not so much left there, maybe a week!