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So, going from the amount of thread PR management the mods have been doing i'm guessing this game is still nowhere near ready to buy?
There are a couple of threads on that very topic you may find them helpful in making your decision.
Devs said 4-8 weeks till its ready, we are not yet to the 5 week mark. However Mecron has recently stated that they are looking at around the 6 week mark to have it done. Done as in 1.0, they will be continuing to support the game for long after.
The game still loads like its pulling its data off the 'net instead of my hard drive, oh and it doesn't obey the options menu's resolution setting and insists on using my full one instead of what its set to use.
This is what, two months after release? Good jorb Kerberos!
This is what, two months after release? Good jorb Kerberos!
Exaggerate much?
It's been a month and a few days since release, but nice try at drama. What resolution are you trying for? Are you talking about full screen vs window? Not sure I understand, perhaps less drama and nerd rage and more clerity?
If you tabled out of the game or somehow got into window mode (sans launch screen setup), you need to get back into it with Alt-Enter.
5760x1080 is my default resolution but I have the settings in place to try and load at 1920x1080 since well obviously the game's short-comings are even worse when you're using such a full resolution. I shouldn't have to work around basic settings being ignored by the very engine in which you're setting them. Nice try and defending this broke-ass thing though.
Its like you don't even really know what the words your using mean. Btw: Insulting fellow customers when they have legit complaints about a product in the product's official complaint forum thread? You're a real winner. Also if you're an example of the type of people left in this forum? Even more reason I no longer want to be part of this community.
Calm down man. Anger lead to dark side.
Game is still far far far away from working good enough state. I blame Kerb for this.
How they can realesed product in this state if they are honest folks is beyond me. Oh wait.
Seriusly if they want to keep their honest folks status (at last in my eyes) they should state:
"Game is in beta now, we need to realese it ASAP coz dog eat our homework(or whatever). Feel free to buy and support us."
End of story. So the buyers know what they get.
Game is still far far far away from working good enough state. I blame Kerb for this.
How they can realesed product in this state if they are honest folks is beyond me. Oh wait.
Seriusly if they want to keep their honest folks status (at last in my eyes) they should state:
"Game is in beta now, we need to realese it ASAP coz dog eat our homework(or whatever). Feel free to buy and support us."
End of story. So the buyers know what they get.
You do know that they said it wasn't done, gave a 4-6 week completion timeframe and said to put the game down until the "all's done" announcement is made if you aren't enjoying. That the CEO personally apologized and took responsibility for the release state? That they have promised refunds for those who want them and a free copy of Sots Prime Complete as well as 3 free DLC packs for all that bought the game? They have done A lot, especially where many other studios flat out leave games for months unpatched after a faulty release.
People have a right to be angry about how the game came out, but lets keep a bit of perspective here, its not like they are saying its all fine go buy stuff kthxbye. It should be at 1.0 around the 16th. Then we get a year or more of free support before they start working on an expansion.
Close to over and taken the state of the game right now they wont be able to make a 1.0 that satisfies ME until 16th.
What exactly is MY benefit in this? I dont care him taking responsibility. He did a bad job and if he really took responsibility, he would have quitted his job, giving it to someone who knows how its done. He CLAIMED to take responsibility but what exactly did he DO to take it?
Well, i havent got mine so far and its been quite a while...
Hell, what? Who cares DLC for a game that is not running? THey arent supposed to spend their time on shitty race-addon-dlc but fixing the game to a stable beta version at least.
Sorry, i cant remember a SINGLE game beeing in THAT shape like sots2 when they have been released, not even the crappy Stronghold 3... again: not a single game....
Sorry again, but from my perspective i paid for the game and the support to balance it out...nothing "free"....
You can either listen to what the devs are saying and adjust your expectations to it, or complain about things that no one can do anything about. That's super constructive.
If someone tells you something will be done in 3 weeks, you don't complain thats its not ready after 1 week.
More importantly, the devs are trying to give you a complete game, not a working but incomplete game. In other words, reinstating game features is taking priority polish. Of course it doesn't look complete - its not supposed to. Not until it IS done.
They told you to put the game down until its done if you aren't enjoying it or get a refund..
Mecron IS Sots, without him there is no game. The benefit to you is that you will GET a game to play for your money. You also get acknowledgement that they screwed up, and are willing to go beyond the norms to make it up to you.
Its value, they are giving you $12 worth of DLC and offer a $20 game for free. The DLC is already complete so they AREN"T sending any time there, all their time is already going into fixing the game.
Yes, The game was released unfinished, no there are not a lot of games where you can say the same. Except for a small handful, that were put out and never got any support.
What I'm talking about free support, I'm speaking of AFTER the game is up to snuff and has every launch feature working as intended. They will continue to support the game for long after, My point is they are not going to be trying to sell you an expansion to "fix" things.
I'm sorry for any being a bit hostile here, but we are speaking on topics that were covered by the developers over a month ago. They have followed everything they said nearly to a T so far.
They are working on it, and they are doing a damn fine job. We have had 10 patches in the last 5 weeks, 5-6 of them major. They are working hard to get you your money's worth.
I see that. But they should HAVE worked hard, not WORK hard.... see the difference?
Really, thats not TAKING resonsibility, its CLAIMING it. He has NO consequences connected to his "taken" responsibility, so its not TAKING it...
Looks like they had wrong priorities, making a DLC which was meant to get more of our money PRIOR making the game to it. In german theres a word for it, its called "Aasgeier"... i wont translate it here because its probably against forum rules pfff.
Ok, tell me ONE that was as bad as SOTS2. And let me judge about right or wrong... Not Stronghold3, not a Jowood Release even (haha) and NOT even GOTHIC have been THAT kind of crap.... THis program is an assembly of crappy code, its not a game... Kerberos never heard the word compiler i guess...
I appreciate you have the attitude of seeing the positiv things, fine, there have to be people like you (btw are you somehow in Kerberos services??). But face the fact that there are people who are still angry and NEED to be angry to show lousy mecron that he was wrong doing so and that they wont forgive him about that, at least i wont. And i am SURE he doesnt give a s*** about his customers like he never did. We are the people paying his job and he know there are enough lambs paying his job even with the WORST release ever done in history i can remember... and i can remember the last 20 years....
Actually another Kerberos game Fort Zombie is still in very poor state. I will call it not playabl but it cn be played. There is just so many things done bad... The whole design is terrible.
But yeah even Elemental wasnt that bad. I mean it was bad coz it was boring and no fun but at last it work and have most of things working inside.
I hardly can remember other game with so bad realese. But I bet that somebody can throw at me some really bad titles.
But yeah even Elemental wasnt that bad. I mean it was bad coz it was boring and no fun but at last it work and have most of things working inside.
I hardly can remember other game with so bad realese. But I bet that somebody can throw at me some really bad titles.
Are people really this pissed about $40? nearly everyone spends more then that weekly on useless junk but never ask for refunds, i didn't even have the $40 to spend on this game when i bought it and im not bitching since i know Ive probably spent hundreds on other broken crap but at least this 1 is getting fixed.
Civilization 4 on release had a terrible memory allocation error that was ever present up until they released ther first expansion (Warlords). Made your games pretty unplayable. I wasn't around the forums then, but I'd imagine there was similar 'hate' going on.
Dead Island, a more recent game, was absolutely terrible and its one patch made things worse in some cases. I haven't gotten around to playing it yet since several other patches came out.
The recent Duke Nukem, which was rather bland and horrible considering how long it was in development.
Daikatana, 'nuff said.
Half Life II, which eventually lead to Steam being tweaked and fixed to what it is today.
Ultima IX, the first patch made it unplayable.
[I remember my one friend being annoyed by this a lot back then, which is why it came to mind]Soul Calibur III on the PS2, if you did anything with your memory card that had Soul Calibur 3 on it, say hello to corruption. There was a 6000 word workaround if you feel like dealing with it.
You can probably find many games released in worse conditions than Sword of the Stars II on release.
20 years is a long time.
I'll get around to playing this game eventually, when exams are done and I've finished working on this D&D campaign for my group of 7 (The balancing hurts.
)P.S If you want to know something that I was truly surprised with, was in the second season of Haruhi Suzumiya (if there are anime watchers out there), there was essentially 8 episodes of the same thing. I think Kyoto Animation is the only company that could pull that stunt off and still make money from it. :/ (The show's name and its fans probably helped... but come on. XD)
They took 'Endless 8' quite seriously. I like to think they did it with a trollface.jpg
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I am glad you have so much money to waste on "useless junk", but I definitely don't. I can only buy a game every so often, and so I pick after consideration. As a fan of SotS I chose SotS2 over Skyrim, BF3, Batman, etc etc... and it was a huge waste. So I am back to playing free games, like World of Tanks, which is only so fun for so long.
Sadly, my other hobbies are MORE expensive then gaming...
This Game needs to be fixed it would be criminal to let it expire I absoulutly love it so far , even if it is so flawed in its implementation. Sure the Game Bugs out and half the features dont work but i can see and understand the game behind the mess its in at the moment and it beats anything else ive seen and I have been waiting for something as deep as this could be for years. So stick to it coders get it sorted and im sure you will have a hit on your hands. It should never have been released in the state its in tho and for that you have done the game a huge blow that it may not survive what were you thinking!!! Anyway if People can calm down and let the patches to their thing im sure this game will succead. Best of Luck i for one am not asking for a refund i want the Game to Work...