the easiest would be the last option... as the ai will start on those techs that isn't on the list, when it runs out of those...
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PB-DK, could you take a look at "Language specific units"? Just to check the danish names.
And I agree, it would be easier to just swap the models. Also, I don't think there are that many countries that start with fighters, so fixing the OOBs shouldn't be too hard.
And I agree, it would be easier to just swap the models. Also, I don't think there are that many countries that start with fighters, so fixing the OOBs shouldn't be too hard.
Gwalcmai said:
I don't think there are any, are there?
Of course, the tech tree will have to be changed if we are making this model change...
Not very extensibly, you just change the model numbers in the activation techs, AFAIK.
Of course - I was assuming that the order in which these models can be researched was going to change as well. 
German ship names
Ersatz in German ship names actually means "replacement" (or something to that effect). This is because, according to the Naval Law passed in German Parliament in early 1900's, there were quotas for each ship type and new ships could only be built if they were to replace decomissioned ones. Freya was an old cruiser, and Ersatz Freya is the ship that was supposed to replace it in the naval list (it was actually BC Hindenburg).
Allenby said:
Ersatz in German ship names actually means "replacement" (or something to that effect). This is because, according to the Naval Law passed in German Parliament in early 1900's, there were quotas for each ship type and new ships could only be built if they were to replace decomissioned ones. Freya was an old cruiser, and Ersatz Freya is the ship that was supposed to replace it in the naval list (it was actually BC Hindenburg).
hiryu said:
Thanks
This was rectified some time ago, but it's good to see some people are on the ball
Reviving the old thread
Dirigibles added:
MODEL_ENG_15_0 Beta
MODEL_ENG_15_1 Sea Scout
MODEL_ENG_15_2 R
MODEL_ENG_15_3 R.100
MODEL_FRA_15_0 Lebaudy
MODEL_FRA_15_1 Astra
MODEL_FRA_15_2 F
MODEL_GER_15_0 LZ
MODEL_GER_15_1 M
MODEL_GER_15_2 R
MODEL_GER_15_3 W
MODEL_ITA_15_0 Italia
MODEL_ITA_15_1 M
MODEL_ITA_15_2 G
MODEL_ITA_15_3 F
MODEL_JAP_15_0 Yamado
MODEL_RUS_15_0 Lebed
MODEL_RUS_15_1 Krechet
MODEL_RUS_15_2 Gigant
MODEL_USA_15_0 America
MODEL_USA_15_3 ZR
Dirigibles added:
MODEL_ENG_15_0 Beta
MODEL_ENG_15_1 Sea Scout
MODEL_ENG_15_2 R
MODEL_ENG_15_3 R.100
MODEL_FRA_15_0 Lebaudy
MODEL_FRA_15_1 Astra
MODEL_FRA_15_2 F
MODEL_GER_15_0 LZ
MODEL_GER_15_1 M
MODEL_GER_15_2 R
MODEL_GER_15_3 W
MODEL_ITA_15_0 Italia
MODEL_ITA_15_1 M
MODEL_ITA_15_2 G
MODEL_ITA_15_3 F
MODEL_JAP_15_0 Yamado
MODEL_RUS_15_0 Lebed
MODEL_RUS_15_1 Krechet
MODEL_RUS_15_2 Gigant
MODEL_USA_15_0 America
MODEL_USA_15_3 ZR
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Dibo said:
Maybe the italian and german ones could have their names a tad longer? Say Dirigibile M, instead of just M for ITA_15_1. It feels a bit "poor" like you have it.
Gwalcmai said:
Poor, but true. Anyway I suggest giving a few explanations in the tech descriptions, like the famous HOI "Historically, these were the German......, British....."
Hint: I'm working on several more techs for the dirigibles. Will submit my proposals, text and photos soon in the tech and zeppelin threads.
Dibo said:Hint: I'm working on several more techs for the dirigibles. Will submit my proposals, text and photos soon in the tech and zeppelin threads.
Wonderful!
Is it enough to fill up the balloon tech field?
Dibo said:
I just mean that the build menu may look a bit strange with a single letter there, and I was suggesting something like letter type airship as the entry.
Allenby said:Wonderful!
Is it enough to fill up the balloon tech field?
Yes, but I'll need help with the techs - I mean I have ideas, photos, etc.; but I have never implemented new techs in HOI, so I don't know how to do it yet
Oh, and one question Allenby....Is it possible to reshuffle the levels in the Balloon tech field. For example Level 1 to become Level 2, and one of the current "free" extra levels to become Level 1. I know tech fields are often cross-related - for example "Hydrogen production" with the Industry tech field, so I'm not sure......
Gwalcmai said:
It won't be a problem to implement it your way, but what is then the difference between the airships and the destroyers and cruisers, that are also often described only by single alphabetic letters?
Anyone else to share his opinion on the matter?
Not much except "Class M" sounds better than simply "M". Too James Bondish perhaps.
Dibo said:Yes, but I'll need help with the techs - I mean I have ideas, photos, etc.; but I have never implemented new techs in HOI, so I don't know how to do it yet
Leave the implementation and coding to me
Dibo said:
Sure
Just post what you think needs to be done.
Dibo said:It won't be a problem to implement it your way, but what is then the difference between the airships and the destroyers and cruisers, that are also often described only by single alphabetic letters?
None, they would be the better for a "-class" addition too, IMO. But you were asking about the airship model names.
ptan54 said:
I suggest the following for Germany:
MODEL_GER_15_0 LZ-Typ
MODEL_GER_15_1 M-Typ
MODEL_GER_15_2 R-Typ
MODEL_GER_15_3 W-Typ
or even:
MODEL_GER_15_0 LZ-Typ Zeppelin
MODEL_GER_15_1 M-Typ Zeppelin
MODEL_GER_15_2 R-Typ Zeppelin
MODEL_GER_15_3 W-Typ Zeppelin
OK, guys... you have convinced me
BTW, I'm thinking of introducing a reference of the models of the TGW mod in the beginning of the Models.csv. I saw it in the CORE Models.csv file and I think this is a handy idea.
BTW, I'm thinking of introducing a reference of the models of the TGW mod in the beginning of the Models.csv. I saw it in the CORE Models.csv file and I think this is a handy idea.