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Monday Game V - 18:00 to 22:00 GMT

We started the fifth game in this series last night. It is a 1938 campaign and the players include:

Brazil - Wishing Well
British Empire - Herodotus
China - Kvarium
France - Mr Sljivovic
Germany - Col. Warden
Italy - Mr G.
Japan - Gen. Schuerman
Soviet Union - Traks
USA - Ederon

Andrew
 
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Colonel Warden said:
We started the fifth game in this series last night. It is a 1938 campaign and the players include:

Brazil - Wishing Well
British Empire - Herodotus
China - Kvarium
France - Mr Sljivovic
Germany - Col. Warden
Italy - Mr G.
Japan - Gen. Schuermann
USA - Ederon

Andrew

Ehem, I thought there were 9? players :)
 
Konrad der Rote said:
Great! :)
Reinstalling HoI2 atm. :D
Though hope host can manage so many players.

Edit: if choosing a sub for an important country beware,
haven't played for a long time. ;)

Great to see you interested again Konrad. Long time, no see. For those that don't know, he is actually the founder of the Monday Game series. We're no longer orphans :D. Counting you as well, we're 10 players now. Our host, Mr. Sljivovic can take that.
 
Yeah first game I got trouble at work and rushed the edits.
Andrew was already pissed before the game started. :rolleyes:

The old games are great reading!
Japanese tanks defending Moskwa... :p
What madness happened in this game already?
 
AAR - Day 2

We brought yesterday's game to a close on April 1st, 1939.
The First Day of the game waas rather short, the '38 scenario was played for only 1 month, so we started around mid october '38.

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Hot Spot Iberian Peninsula 1938/39

Madrid, Spain. The spanish civil war is, after almost 2 years of fighting, still not over. Republican stronghold is still the south, whereas the National stronghold remains the north. Madrid, former capital of Unified Spain, has been changing sides for months now. It appears that when one side gains the upper hand, the other side does not seem to fall, but instead launch a counter offensive and stabilize the front again.
Well informed circles have told us of influencing either side by various alliances, the so-called Axis and the Allies, in particular. Despite of some expert's predictions, the Nationals seem not to be able to turn the tide and end the civil war. This appears to be a sign of an 'undeclared poltical war' between the major alliances, whereas the Allies, who appear to be on the Republican side, seem to have the most influence on the factions and passively force the Republican side to win by sending supplies, experts say.
However, these accusations were proven wrong and seem to lack any real background, as high ranking officials deny involvement in the Civil war.

These claims by Allied officials seem to be right, as a surprising alliance between the Comintern and Republican Spain was declared. The Soviet Union might have been the financial backup for the Republican forces.
This was a surprising move by the Soviet Union, which had remained quiet during the last years. Experts argue about the use of this move by the new Soviet leader. Will it be used as a measure of pressure against the allies? A communist stronghold in South Europe would only be the first step of creating a communist Europe.
There have been no reports of Communists and Allies having contact with each other, nullifying claims of Communist and Allied comradeship. However, the alliance might have been a reactionary move, since Portugal already joined the Allies. If tensions would increase, The Soviets might as well take Gibraltar and take control of the western entrance into the mediterranean and/or even threating France.

In any case, the Republicans have not won yet, despite Soviet ship movements noticed by german and british spyplanes. The Axis's step in this conflict remains to be seen. Risking a war with the Soviet union by further supplying the Fascist north, or even entrance of the Nationals into the axis would almost certainly would ignite the cowder keg which is the Iberian peninsula right now. A lot lies within the hands of the civil war's parties. If the Fascist north, despite all odds, should win, this would seriously cause a threat to France in the North, which will be surrounded by fascist nations. It would be in France's interest that no participant in the spanish civil war gains the upper hand, for now.

Pictured below: Spains factions in a stalemate
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+++++ News Flash +++++

Asian Crisis: The japanese question

Jakarta, Indonesia, '38. The new leader of Japan riddles western leaders. In late September of 1938, the Japanese Emperor brought fighting in China to a close. Since June '37 Imperial Japan had been at war with China, since then controlling most China in the North and East. All of a sudden, fighting disrupted and troops were immediately pulled back to the Eastern coast of China to be shipped back to Japan. It is not known what moved the Emperor to step back on claims of chinese soil. Only Machuria and the Eastern province of Nantong stayed in Japan's hands.
Some experts claim that unrest in Japan was due to the Japanese pullback of their troops. War had dragged along for more then a year, with no other result then a stalemate in eastern China. victory was no where near.
However, hopes of a peaceful Japan were utterly shaken by a sudden declaration of war on Holland. Until late '38, Holland held preciouse provinces known as the Dutch East Indies, which are known for their riches in raw materials as well for their strategical value. This sparked fears of Japan able to reach India, Australia and eventually threatening the united states.

Fighting started around October 15th/16th. Japanese forces where able to quickly occupy the Indonesian Islands, such as Sumatra, Java and Celebes. Fighting was basically over at the end of November, no more acquisitions were being done after that time. Hopes that Holland would accept peace offers were wrong, peace offers on the dutch side were denied from the Japanese, being "not enough".

Asian Crisis: The japanese question, Part 2: Japanese Aircraft carriers spotted in the North Sea

London, England, January/February '39. The general public was in shock when the word spread that Japanese Aircraft carriers as well as minor ships were spotted in the Channel. apparantly, the japanese leader decided to take out Holland once and for all. A mere month later, Holland had been puppeted by Imperial Japan and surrendered the Dutch East Indies to Japan. Pictures of Japanese soldiers fighting along the Grachten of Amsterdam quickly spread around the world. The fairly quick defeat of continental Holland sparked disbelief as well as anger in the houses of parliament.
We have yet to see what Japans further plans regarding expansion are. Only the infamous emperor knows for sure.

Pictured below: Japanese Indonesia
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+++++ News Flash +++++

Chiang Kai Shek joins the Axis!

Nanjing, China, late 1938. Yesterday the leader of National China, Chiang Kai Shek, announced that China will be from now on part of the Axis. This move was entirely surprising, foreign politics experts say. Western democracies see this as a step back of China towards extreme autocracy, we will of course inform you about the latest developments in this case.

Bulgaria and Romania join Axis powers!

Bukarest/Sofia, Southeastern Europe, ealry 1939. Further additions to the Axis powers now include Bulgaria and Romania. Western leaders are displeased to see the axis powers to grow, in terms of IC, Army, Naval size as well as Airforce size. Imminent conflict is looming in Old Europe.

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Comparative Figures:

Army size

Axis
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Allies
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USA
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Asian Alliance
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Comintern
truppenstrkecomintern4pp.jpg
 
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A correction which I would like to make on Gen. Schuermann's nice AAR is that the Allies have not been interfering in any way in the Spanish Civil War. Republican Spain joined the Comintern and diplomats of the British embassy in Berlin reported that Germany influenced Nationalist Spain. The UK will keep a close eye on all this, since a possible move of Nationalist Spain to the Axis could have huge consequences for the world. Another thing that greatly worries the UK is the annexation of the Netherlands by Japan. In this increasingly worrying times both Portugal and Iraq were convinced to help the Allied cause.

I've checked the triggers of the US gears. One was triggered by the war between Japan and the Netherlands. For the other, the one that actually fired first just after the restart, I don't have any explanation. Maybe it's a bug, since I vaguely remember hearing something about this particular thing in the past, but I've been spreading some wrong information recently, so I'll whisper it this time.
 
Herodotos said:
Another thing that greatly worries the UK is the annexation of the Netherlands by Japan. In this increasingly worrying times both Portugal and Iraq were convinced to help the Allied cause.

Come on. That only worries you :D :D Japanese Soldiers at your home, problem with that? :D

Herodotos said:
A correction which I would like to make on Gen. Schuermann's nice AAR is that the Allies have not been interfering in any way in the Spanish Civil War. Republican Spain joined the Comintern and diplomats of the British embassy in Berlin reported that Germany influenced Nationalist Spain. The UK will keep a close eye on all this, since a possible move of Nationalist Spain to the Axis could have huge consequences for the world. Another thing that greatly worries the UK is the annexation of the Netherlands by Japan. In this increasingly worrying times both Portugal and Iraq were convinced to help the Allied cause.

Has been added! :)
 
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Gen.Schuermann said:
Come on. That only worries you :D :D Japanese Soldiers at your home, problem with that? :D



Has been added! :)

Hmm, I think that ending Spain map looked a little different.
Or maybe troops did not arrive at time when screenshot was made.
 
you mean madrid? was in NAtSpains hand when we saved, about half an hour later after you left!
 
Gen.Schuermann said:
you mean madrid? was in NAtSpains hand when we saved, about half an hour later after you left!

Sorry Traks, but two russian division without republican support weren't able to 'liberate' Madrid.

I gotta tell you, those republicans have a mind of their own.
 
Wishing_Well said:
I gotta tell you, those republicans have a mind of their own.
Yes, even when you have military control over some country, her units sometimes (more or less) act on their own too. Heros had the same problem with controlling Italians in some past game. They simply did what they wanted, regardless of MC'ing country's orders.
 
Lord Ederon said:
Yes, even when you have military control over some country, her units sometimes (more or less) act on their own too. Heros had the same problem with controlling Italians in some past game. They simply did what they wanted, regardless of MC'ing country's orders.

In that case it was the main Italian Fleet. All in all they had quite some success, although it was quite tiring to babysit them, once I realised that they sailed whenever they felt like it.
 
Herodotos said:
In that case it was the main Italian Fleet. All in all they had quite some success, although it was quite tiring to babysit them, once I realised that they sailed whenever they felt like it.
I had similar problems with French or some other country I controlled through MC. The foreign units simply did what they wanted, regardless of repeated attemts to guide them.
 
Lord Ederon said:
I had similar problems with French or some other country I controlled through MC. The foreign units simply did what they wanted, regardless of repeated attemts to guide them.

well, you are talking about the french, aren't you? :D :D