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FAL said:
How many of you have played with random leaders only and truly can say something about this issue from experience, by the way? :D

To be honest i have to say that i didnt play a "only random leader campaign". I just thought that it could be fun to play it.
But i wont give any new arguments not based on empirism if all (or most) of the players, who played already in such a campaign vote against only randoms. :)
 
FAL said:
I rather remove random events from the game. That truly would leave ones country to skill, instead to lucky deflation events ;)

No random events also removes the main advantage of low stabcost. So that would remove a part of the game that requires some skill.
 
Miozozny said:
No random events also removes the main advantage of low stabcost. So that would remove a part of the game that requires some skill.

Not really. Everyone knows that no random events will be there taking away stability and thus everyone (except maybe the war-hungry-poor-land countries) will simply choose free subjects to go instead of serfdom.

Unless you meant part of the skill is this deciding about this choice? Well I can tell you: It's simply now too, always go full serfdom :D
 
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EarendilHE said:
To be honest i have to say that i didnt play a "only random leader campaign". I just thought that it could be fun to play it.
But i wont give any new arguments not based on empirism if all (or most) of the players, who played already in such a campaign vote against only randoms. :)

Well I got negative experience with a random-leaders-only campaign, but truth is that part of the reason that it didn't work, is that some players didn't check the stats of the newly generated leaders and thus entered wars unprepared or formed the wrong coalitions. That might perhaps be prevented this time.

So it *might* all work. I am not saying it definately will be screwed if you go with random leaders only. However, we all *do* know that the game works with historical leaders + random leaders :)
 
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capitals capturing. Boooring.
 
Daniel A said:
The tricks needed are not handed out for free, although Tonio and Drake leaks like a 90 years old woman :rolleyes:

i sayd go by land didn't say how tho unlike tonio
 
Daniel A said:
The tricks needed are not handed out for free, although Tonio leaks like a 90 years old woman :rolleyes:

yes, youngster ! You are too nervious, when you think you discovered America and preparing for sex.

Seriously Asian expansion, which is land connected to capital, should be forbidden.
 
bah, Daniel cheats with edits.
It was only me, myself and Tonio in quoting :p

EDIT: and, Daniel, are we (me and Drake) same 90 years old woman ?
 
Tonioz said:
yes, youngster ! You are too nervious, when you think you discovered America and preparing for sex.

Seriously Asian expansion, which is land connected to capital, should be forbidden.

ya i agree ottos got way to much easy mp* from persia ect or africa even(connection to :( )
 
FAL said:
How many of you have played with random leaders only and truly can say something about this issue from experience, by the way? :D

Well, in MTT we got only 2 leaders each 20 years, but, i remember once getting a 6 shock/fire leader, and kicked the other player without any problem... There was no way he could stop me (right Ear?).

I would say, delete historical events, random events, historical leaders and random leaders as well, but add explorers/conqs to everyone starting in, perhaps, 1500? That should be funny to see. :rofl:
 
Well a good old rule was to forbid OE Persian provinses till 1650 or so.

Atleast i can see i have started a healty debate on all these subjects, which is nice to see. I'll have time to look into the campaign tomorrow, but i'm pretty sure i'll go with FALs 1492 campaign.
 
Daniel A said:
The tricks needed are not handed out for free, although Tonio and Drake leaks like a 90 years old woman :rolleyes:

heh, I figured out how to do so on my own, and I'm a noob (or was), by most standards.
 
Yes Bodvar, that was a great success. You are the only one, besides myself, I know of who have done it, but it seeems Drake have done it as well. Tonio prolly never bothered to do it, it is beneath his dignity :D
 
BurningEGO said:
Well, in MTT we got only 2 leaders each 20 years, but, i remember once getting a 6 shock/fire leader, and kicked the other player without any problem... There was no way he could stop me (right Ear?).

I would say, delete historical events, random events, historical leaders and random leaders as well, but add explorers/conqs to everyone starting in, perhaps, 1500? That should be funny to see. :rofl:

you are right, ive forgot mtt, but we dont use the normal nations there, so its not a good example...
 
Aladar said:
People without a RL on wednesdays: myself, Dr Bob, Cobjor, Absolut (without an e on the end), BurningEgo, Ear, FJ, Joohoo, Admiral Drake, RappaR, Frosties0258.

I certainly have a life, although it might not be worth living on wednesdays so Ill just have to thank Cobjor for keeping an open slot for me. :D

I believe Cobjor is the best host of us, if not please let me know.

Absolut can host fine so don't think hosting is a problem

Aladar, I can not host (firewall-issue). Absolut is better.

Ill be able to host once I get my connection to work properly, I think.

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You do realise that you need a special potion to summon me? Nonetheless, if noone objects Id like to enter the campaign.

I and Absolut talked about a new game some time before, and I think he is interested in Spain.

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