OPEN BETA | Patch 1.16.5

[Slippyfopp]

Added more resource variety in GoE nations, such as Chromium, Steel, etc.

Well, this'll make a lot of people happy, including me. I enjoyed my game as Iraq, but damn if it wasn't frustrating to have to trade for pretty much everything.

Hopefully this can also be done as the nations in Trial for Allegiance as well; being able to core all of South America runs into the same problem as coring all of the Middle East: the only resource you end up with plenty of is oil.

One change I would like to see made: can you reinstate the Persian Empire formable in GoE? If you want to emphasize Iran getting it, then give Iran some Focuses (or Decisions) making it easier to acquire the necessary territory. Just my opinion.

And please, don't be afraid to fix a whole bunch more crap with this upcoming patch.

 

[Physius]

Really loving the saved designs thing, but for continuity sake, please expand this to the division designer, it feels like it should be there!

 

[Kosaki MacTavish]

One more important thing, I'm glad to see the Anglo-Iraqi treaty is now removed if you go to war with the U.K as Hashemite/Caliphate Iraq and you don't get stuck with it forever (something I complained about 2-3 weeks ago in the last war effort patch), however the part of this national spirit which is something as a player you should be scared of, the -10% attack and -10% defense against the United Kingdom is no longer something you need to fear since the national spirit is instantly removed when going to war. A compromise should be made, either the National spirit shouldn't be instantly removed but instead put on a timer of say, 90 days when entering into war against the U.K until its removed, or you make it a decision that costs PP or XP to remove in a similar amount of timeframe, to represent how dangerous it is for Iraq which is Almost a british client state, but isn't, to go to war with the U.K as they will already know the weakness' of Iraq's military thanks to their military access as represented in game.

Agree. In my mod, i instead placed a scripted trigger for a removal of the similar economic treaty between the Indies and the Japanese, that if we still have the treaty in any form and we are at war with Japan, it would spawn an event to give us a military penalty for a period of time, and only after that removes the economic treaty.

 

[Li Three]

Can the rebellious Indian princely states have a unique portrait?

 

[billcorr]

Not related, but Turkey could use the same treatment and have a few 70 day focuses reduced to 35 days, especially in the Ottoman path as you can barely get anything done by the time the war breaks out.

Good point about changing a few Turkish 70 day focuses to 35 day focuses.

Also, while they are at it, how about converting 70 day focuses to 35 day focuses for:

ROM
SAF
AST
NZL
CAN
YUG
(Which ones am I missing?)

All the Old Style HOI4 game design nations deserve a bit of an update to meet HoI4's New Game Design Standards.

 

[pdxen]

Can you fix the boat presets?

The shareable equipment designs are for tanks, planes and ships so it should already be there (assuming you have the dlc for the ship designer).

 

[Herennius]

The shareable equipment designs are for tanks, planes and ships so it should already be there (assuming you have the dlc for the ship designer).

I think @goodcigar is refering to something different here: The function of the designer to create historical designs (which is absent for ships with the exception of the UK)

 

[International_Spying]

More excellent changes, glad Turkey is getting more flavor with the Saadabad Pact. Manchukuo still needs to be able to peace out Japan on its own, but I'm happy with this patch.

 

[Lord Sheogorath]

Some feedback from me based on my experiences playing India

1. The national focuses local resistance to land taxes, second haripura session, cripps mission either does nothing or actively damages your country if already independent. While I imagine they were designed to be taken before independence, and ignored if already independent, one paricular one, resistance to land taxes give maluses but not any civ factory if indepenent. And the maluses it gives are severe and can't be removed, ever, making this focus a noob trap. I fell for it because I imagined the maluses will go away after independence.

2. Many focuses under the uplifting the people of India branch have 70 day duration but few rewards. Some like hand loom weaving, gives 1 civ and 1 research boost (35%), some others give just 1 research boost (35%), and some are actively harmful like boosting democracy if you are a different ideology. I suggest shorten most of these to 35 days or increasing the rewards. Only federal court, literacy effort and Indo centric curriculum are worth 70 days pp investment.

3. The focus Indianise the army still doesn't do anything if independent by the Azad Hind branch, since most "Loyalty to India" generals side with the british Raj if Azad Hind revolts. This itself is a strange aberration that I hoped would be fixed in the head/knee/shoulder patches. And this focus can't be ignored since it gatekeeps other focuses that are important.

4. The focus Indian state forces doesn't do anything if independent. Most likely the problem with these are they target non core princely state territories and stop functioning if all territories are cored. At least they should get alternate fulfilling conditions or even bypassed if the requirements aren't met, since some of these block other focuses.

5. The focus sahid and swaraj claims that it will move capital to the Andamans, which is actively detrimental, but it also gives some factoies etc. Movin the capital bit is unneessary. This focus is also locked behind another focus of dubius utility, the enemy of my enemy.

6. The whole Netaji sub branch is quite underpowered compared to the Hinduvta sub branch, I was hoping it would be buffed a bit. Also it would be great if there were more oportunities for creating factions in all of the sub branches. Currently only the communist tree can create factions.

 

[Judas-Israel]

Sounds like awesome changes, especialy the tank thing. Non the less tanks especialy higher tier tanks need more benefits to make them viable.

And as i always mention till its adressed is german Reichskommissariats are dommed by their own behavier where the ai needs to be adressed. This core feature of the most played nation is still no viable option.

German Reichskomissariats cant manage themselves and become resistance country

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[pdxen]

Hi guys, (requesting again and crossing fingers this is finally fixed).

Could this please be fixed?

At the moment, it's makes SHBBs unusable unless you never close the game - or are happy to have them in repair for three months every time you open the game.

Reloading causes Special Project ships to lose bonus HP

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Hi,

This should have been fixed in the last patch ("Fixed issue with equipment temporarily losing stats when a game was loaded"). We were unable to reproduce it as of this morning on the open beta. If this is still happening for you, we would appreciate more information (and potentially a save file) on how it happens for you.

 

[withche.07]

Thanks for fixing the formable cores, by the way. I really appreciated seeing that my feedback about Turan and the Ottomans was taken into account. There are still some duplicate cores here and there, but nothing too major.

Paradox has always been meticulous about naming Victory Points and States in every country they have reworked. In some cases, they have even used local names. However, for years, several Victory Points in Turkey have been assigned Kurdish names that have never been officially used.

Don’t get me wrong—I’m not trying to start a political debate. My point is simply that these names have never been historically used in Turkey.

It’s fine if the original localization keeps these names in Kurdish—that’s not a big issue. However, at the very least, when Turkey is the controlling tag, a dynamic localization system could be used to display their Turkish names instead.

Here are the correct Turkish names for these Victory Points:

VICTORY_POINTS_7530:0 "Cizre"
VICTORY_POINTS_10497:0 "Siirt"
VICTORY_POINTS_12376:0 "Ağrı"
VICTORY_POINTS_876:0 "Elazığ"
VICTORY_POINTS_9868:0 "Erzincan"

I believe this update could be easily implemented through dynamic localization. My main argument is that keeping these names in Kurdish specifically for Turkey is historically inaccurate.

Additionally, İstanbul and İzmir currently do not use the capitalized “İ” found in the Turkish alphabet. Since Danish localization includes the ø character, I see no reason why Turkey shouldn’t use its own unique capital letter. These should be corrected as follows:

VICTORY_POINTS_9833:0 "İstanbul"
VICTORY_POINTS_4112:0 "İzmir"

It would be much appreciated if you could also take a look at some localization inconsistencies I mentioned here regarding Turkish cities and states.

 

[Slippyfopp]

Good point about changing a few Turkish 70 day focuses to 35 day focuses.

Also, while they are at it, how about converting 70 day focuses to 35 day focuses for:

ROM
SAF
AST
NZL
CAN
YUG
(Which ones am I missing?)

All the Old Style HOI4 game design nations deserve a bit of an update to meet HoI4's New Game Design Standards.

The U.S.
Even though the U.S. is super powerful and doesn't really need any kind of buff, some of the focuses are agonizingly slow (especially for a country that can't go to war until much later), like:

1. The various "War Plan ____" Focuses (70 Days for a 10% attack bonus against one country for 6 months, and maybe a new operative).
2. Pretty much everything under the Limited Intervention sub-branch. Most of the Focuses are underwhelming, and everyone takes Neutrality Act anyway. Making all of these Focuses 35 days would mean you get to the 6th Research Slot sooner, at the cost of the more powerful industry bonuses under Neutrality Act.
3. "America First" and "Suspend the Persecution" (all they really do is unlock the fascism and communism branches, respectively).
4. "Reintegration", under the Communist branch (not the Focus itself, but the Decision it unlocks: it's very slow and costs a lot of PP over time).
5. "War Department" and "War Plans Division" (like America First and Suspend Persecution, all it really does is unlock the Focuses beyond).

There are more, but I think you get the idea. There are still lots of problems with the Focus Trees in GoE, though, so fixing those should be paramount.

EDIT: Having recently played Czechoslovakia for the first time, it definitely needs an overhaul. More advisors (including a Silent Workhorse), more Generals, and of course, more 35-day Focuses. I know CZE didn't do much IRL, but if Ethiopia and Austria can get extensive trees and lots of advisors, I'd appreciate it if Czechoslovakia could.

 

[Duke_Dave]

An overview what has been fixed, added and what is missing but which is either wrong, was there historically but isn't in game or just makes not much sense, based on my small suggestion thread, for the long-read see my signature. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ideas-to-replace-fictional-ministers.1730624/

Iraq

• Add the fortifications at the pumping stations.
• Add the ability for Iraq to flood the area around Baghdad, same as the Dutch, the Iraqis did that in 1941.
• Kurdistan should not keep-on Arab generals and ministers.
• Change Focus Finish the Berlin-Baghdad Railway to Finish the Taurus Express. That is what it was called back then since it connected Istanbul with Baghdad.
• Change the focus: Improve Army Training Regimens to at Al-Wash Light Weapons School, the camp at al-Wash at that time was doing the training of Soldiers in Light weapons and tactics.
• Change the focus: Expand the Camel Corps to Integrate the Iraqi Police. The Iraqi Police had Camelry, as far as I know the Iraqi Army did not. The Iraqi Police was integrated into the army and took part in battles in 1941. The focus should also give a research bonus for MP and maybe also add a motorized unit. See my long Iraq threat for photos.
• Change the Focus Invest in Ordnance Mountain Howitzers to not just target the UK, and maybe also to directly add some artillery to the stockpile.
• Change the Focus Develop the Kuwaiti Port to Handover of Basra Military Port, and change it accordingly. In 1937 Britain handed over Basra Military Port to Iraq.
• The Focus Establish Iraqi Coastal Defense Force should give Iraq the National Spirit River Fleet.
• Don’t kill King Ghazi for the monarchist path
• The focuses Propose Syrian Unification should also cover Lebanon.
• All these Unification focuses should annex the countries not make them puppets.
• Give Iraq Unique Division names see my list here: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ideas-to-replace-fictional-ministers.1730624/
• The Focus Refuge for the Grand Mufti, should also bring in some manpower and give Fawaz Qawuqji as a general. Since they came together and with the Mufti around the time came Syrian exiles. Qauqji should be removed as a high command officer, he was small scale guerilla leader, he never commanded more than a few thousand soldiers. He wouldn’t be made Chief of staff of Iraq.
• The Focus Axis Training, should be renamed into Brandenburger Training Mission, since Germany planned to send its Brandenburger Special Forces to train up an Iraqi model brigade. The Focus should also give bonus for paratroopers.
• Rename the Focus Axis Investment to Axis Investment for Oil, since that happened historically and give Germany a few right to resources to some oil fields.
• Change Fliegerführer Irak to give medium Air Frames instead of light ones, the Germans sent He-111 and Me-110s not light planes but medium planes due to the distance.
• The Focus Request Syria should give Syria and Lebanon to Iraq directly not as puppets, since that was agreed with the Germans.
• Make Barzani the leader also for the communist party of Kurdistan.
• Focus Seek Soviet Aid, should boost communism.
• The Focus Form the Peshmerga still doesn’t make sense
• Focus Women in Military should reduce stability. This is a very conservative society. It should also enable female aces. It even has planes as its symbol
• The focus United Kurdistan should also give cores on North Khorasan and Khorasan, to cover the Khorasan Kurds that were settled there in the 16th and 17th century,.
• Naval commander should be Major General Ahmed Rushdi bin al-Hajj Muhammad the first commander of the Iraqi Navy.
• For the Air Force replace Amir Al-llah with Major General Jamil Ahmad Abdullah Al-Rawi. Minister of Transport and co-founder of the air force. Died in 1941.
• Replace Akram Musthak with Mohammed Ali Jawad, was commander of the Air force under Bakr Sidiqi.
• Husain al-Rahhal should be replaced, you added Maruf al Rusafi which is nice
• Jamil al Midfai has the wrong portrait and his traits don’t make sense. He should also not be available for fascist governments since he fled the 1941 coup. He was a politician, not a militant one but rather a political animal becoming minister and prime minister several times.
• Still missing the Shias the majority of Iraq, which had unrest in that time!!!!

Afghanistan

• The description of the Turkish Military Mission, says that over time it can be expanded but there are no focuses to do so.
• Still missing the Hazaras who had uprisings in the timeframe of the game!!!!, Why does PDX hate Shias so much?
• move the Focus Afghanistan Ring-Road to the Soviet path
• Move the Focuses Introduce National Service and Expand the Royal Guard to the Military Branch.
• The Focus Seek American Aid should also give Research Speed. Since Afghanistan requested American Teachers in 1943.
• Move the Focus Sinkiang Intervention to the Foreign Policy Branch, maybe make it a whole extra section with Foreign Policy interaction with China, Tibet etc.
• Focus Request German Support should make Oskar Niedermayer a general and staff officer for Afghanistan.
• Focus Contact Rural Loyalists should make Mazrak Khan Zadran and Mirzali Khan Wazir/Faqir of Ipi generals for Amanullah. Both fought in tribal rebellions for his restoration to power.
• Focus Khyber Pass Rifling should give a production bonus for rifles, like the Manchukuo focus does, with a malus for reliability.
• Rename the Focus Purchase Aircraft to Rebuild the Afghan Air Force, since it had been destroyed in the Civil War.
• The Focus Establish a Naval Academy, should also create a Naval Chief of Staff and Theorist, Afghanistan shouldn’t start with those it breaks immersion.
• Focus: Anti-Soviet Cooperation should be renamed Lancaster Plan Afghanistan should get subsidies for different weapons systems to buy them from the UK. And maybe 1-2 off map Civilian Factories.
• Focus: Axis Air Force should give a reduced Air Accident Chance, since Germany in 1936 sent a pilot and a technician to help build up the Afghan Air Force and in 1937 Mekhaniki Kabul (Kabul Technical school) is founded with German help to service the air force. Also the focus should give medium air frames since due to the distance Germany would have struggled to send small Air Frames.
• Sardar Shah Mahmud Khan, uncle of the king should also be a general., he seems to have the correct portrait now
• Turbaz Khan has a generic portrait
• Nisar Muhammad Yousafzai as a communist leader, good idea I guess. Given his military experience maybe make him a FM and
• remove Sardar Shah Wali Khan as a general under communist rule since he was an uncle of the king
• Qiamuddin Khadim, was a monarchist so making him give communism support makes no sense. He favored a constitutional monarchy. Nur Muhammad Taraki should replace him in that role.
• Sher Ali Sherkanazi, seems to have been made-up, would replace him with Ghulam Siddiq Khan Charkhi, now this is akward he has the right portrait but still the wrong name
• Sardar Asadullah Khan Siraj Should be the Afghan Air Force Staff Officer and Theorist.
• Colonel Tavvab Tarzi -> and he was in Turkey in 1936

Iran

• Ghulam Yahya Daneshian and Jafar Kavian shouldn’t be generals. They were communist opposition figures not in the military in 1936. They should be unlocked for the communist civil war. Two suggestions to replace them:
• Karim Buzarjomehri (1886-1951), he was a trusted man of Reza Khan and oversaw that his body was brought back after he had died. His most important job was the head of the transport/logistic system of the army. he was in charge of the first division stationed in Teheran. He was sent into exile together with Reza Shah. He was minister of labour and head of the royal estate. Later he served as mayor of Tehran.
• Assadollah Hosseinpoor (1882-1954), Also a Cossack officer, took Teheran without bloodshed by literally tricking the guards during Reza’s coup. He commanded several armies through his life. He became a Baha’I after marriage. So Islamists would hate him. His last rank was Major General.
• Azad Hashemi (Navy) sees to be a fantasy admiral and should be replaced by Yadollah Bayandoor, he was part of the Caspian navy and was killed there by Soviet forces.
• Abbas Darja Nawardi uses a generic portrait
• FakhrAfagh Parsa has the portrait of her daughter.
• Arthur Millspaugh should not be available at game start because he wasn’t in Iran at that time.
• Teymur Bakhtiari should not be illusive gentleman he was a lieutenant in an infantry regiment in 1936. He should be replaced by Rokneddin Mokhtari, who was head of the internal intelligence service from 1935-1941. Teymur is still there still makes no sense.
• Ahmad Ahmadi should not be prince of terror, he was a low ranking torture henchman. Should be replaced by Mohammed-Hosayn Ayrom who was head of the Shahrbani in 1931, he fled to Germany after the invasion. He was known for the use of torture.
• Arman Ahura (Islamic Scholar) is fantasy. Could be replaced with Ruhollah Khomeini, since there is a portrait for him already. Another option would be Seyyed -Hossein Tabatabai Qomi an influential clergyman.
• Mohammad Mossadegh should not be available as a minister for Reza Shah he had opposed him becoming Shah and was in semi-retirement
• SAVAK should be replaced by the Shahrbani/Namiyeh although the former name is the one that is most commonly used. Was a law enforcement agency that also worked as counter-intelligence organization. The focus should also give MP technology and unlock bicycle infantry, since the Iranian police at times used bicycles and was integrated into the military.
• Add Historical names for Iranian divisions

Overall

These are just the fundamentals from my basic suggestion thread. There is much more work needed to flesh out the Iraqi monarchist and especially fascist path. Iraq either needs a Ba’ath Arab Socialist path or a proper communist path and a proper democratic path.

Some minimum standards should be done:

• Replace generic leaders, I have enough suggestion to make that viable
• Give each country at least 5 generals/FM
• Historic Division names
• Give historic people their correct portraits
• People that weren’t in the places shouldn’t be available as ministers without decisions or focuses

Overall this needs much improvement the quality of the focus trees is not on the level of Trial of Allegiance or Arms against Tyranny, this is the level of Together for Victory.

 

[B_Niels]

I haven't had the chance to play this yet but can you add notes to the designs? I would really like that to be possible to attach some text to my designs primarily about what upgrades i should do and about how to properly use this piece of equipment.

Anyway I'm very exited for the design sharing feature.

 

[Carlos Burbon]

Focus "One for All, All for One" in the communist path for Iran have Mapuche leader icon which I find strange. Pls change that.

 

[Carlos Burbon]

Just checked the changes in the game, and I think that Nisar Muhammad Yousafzai is an even better choice as leader than Nur Muhammad Taraki, but still I would make him at least an advisor. The biggest issue that still bothers me is the lack of generals. Afghanistan can't have more than 3 generals at the same time. I'm happy with the addition of Oskar Ritter von Niedermayer; however, it is not enough, we need 3/4 more. The same goes for Iraq when they go specific paths. (Since we are focusing on GotE I'm skipping Uruguay and Paraguay.).

 

[Duke_Dave]

Just checked the changes in the game, and I think that Nisar Muhammad Yousafzai is an even better choice as leader than Nur Muhammad Taraki, but still I would make him at least an advisor. The biggest issue that still bothers me is the lack of generals. Afghanistan can't have more than 3 generals at the same time. I'm happy with the addition of Oskar Ritter von Niedermayer; however, it is not enough, we need 3/4 more. The same goes for Iraq when they go specific paths. (Since we are focusing on GotE I'm skipping Uruguay and Paraguay.).

Well Amanullah now has 5 generals, 2 tribal leaders Niedermayer and he keeps two on, would be good to have Amanullah as a FM, especially since the Civil War is about restoring him to the throne. But normal Afghanistan needs more generals.


AND ADD the SHIAS to the game, Iraq is majority Shia and in Afghanistan the Hazaras were probably 25% of the population at that time.

 

[TheDevilMaySmile]

Fixed CTDs when attempting to scope to non-existing states

While you are at it a lot of stuff apparently does not have range checks like provinces as well
if you want to build a railway from to ae. OOB province id and CTD

Fixed rare CTD when removing advisors

Was this the once where you capped and you had a fleet or other advisors and you click on them you CTD
Like this just generally hits MP because otherwise the game is over prob just cleanup missing

 

[Kosaki MacTavish]

Just checked the changes in the game, and I think that Nisar Muhammad Yousafzai is an even better choice as leader than Nur Muhammad Taraki, but still I would make him at least an advisor.

Yup, someone on Reddit pointed out that Yousafzai is a better contender for early Afghan communists. Glad that the devs heeded their suggestion, and i hope Taraki would be included too like in your suggestion.