Patch 1.09 issue

[Rotten Venetic]

My EU II worked like a charm in ver 1.00 that I installed some days ago.
Then I found the paradoxplaza dot com forums, and learned about some things I'd like to do with my game (i.e. mods) and the one I'm after requires patch 1.09.

But since the patch uses installshield, there's nothing I can do about installing it. I've tried everything to fix my installshield but it doesn't work. I've even been to their site enough to hate it.

So my first question is (rather stupid, I know), does the patch come in any other form rather than the one using installshield?

If so, where can I get it?
If not, can I make it happen myself by doing something to the patch so it won't require installshield?

Note: My NSIS works just fine, even though I have a buggy windows xp.

 

[Ayeshteni]

Hmm I don't know if this will help, but..

The only time I had a problem with Installshield was when my DirectX Drivers were out of date (verion 8, I think it was), the install shield would hang at 99% and not complete. Try updating your DirectX Drivers if you haven't already done so (verion 9.something I believe)

I don't know of any Patch that doesn't use installshield however. Maybe others will.

Ayeshteni

 

[Rotten Venetic]

I have 9.0 but I don't think directx is the problem. Some time ago I applied patches to Rome Total War. I then uninstalled that game and only put it back some 9 months later. This time around, nothing works with the installshield. And I don't trust microsoft with their latest directx bcs microsoft have a tendency to do 10* more harm than good.

Idea: Would the patch for Mac work?

 

[Castellon]

Patch only comes in that form.

If you are having so many problems, you should reinstall windows.

 

[Rotten Venetic]

Can't do that either :wacko: serves me right for installing it in the first place.

Is it possible (and legal) to use NSIS* to somehow "import" the patch to NSIS format and run it as such?


Ayestheni: No, it gets the IKERNEL.exe can't run error. Even if my install is an installshield update :rofl:
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*) Where NSIS can be replaced with any other avalilable install aplication

 

[Castellon]

Never heard of NSIS, and whycan't youdo a resinstall of windows? or atleast try a repair install?

 

[Rotten Venetic]

Not quite sure, but there are some driver and registry problems... also it wants me to scan a drive that doesn't exist (I have A,C,D,E,G and when I use a flash stick I, but it wants to check drive F, which isn't, although it WAS).

NSIS is an installer originally made for Linux to compensate for not having installshield but it also comes in a Windows version (I'm not sure if the original Linux version is also called NSIS). It's better than IS because it's completely free (for whoever wants their application to be installable with NSIS; installshield costs four figures in dollars - money that Paradox almost certainly paid themselves at a certain point in time, maybe even more than once), it doesn't sprawl tentacles in the OS and if it goes bad you can always uninstall get a fresh copy from the net (again, a feature installshield seems to lack, since their site only deals in updates that can't be installed with a broken installshield).

 

[Castellon]

Create a ram drive for F or change the drive lettering.

 

[Rotten Venetic]

Create a ram drive for F

Thank you, though I can't do it anyway.
Later edit:
Nero Imagedrive CAN handle two drives, but it will make another one, not take over F. I would take the pc or at least the hdd to a service, they could sort it out, but I'm a student, not a worker, so no cash

or change the drive lettering.

How would changing the letter help me? It will just take up another letter (possibly H) and imagedrive's second drive would be F. Same thing.

 

[Castellon]

What would take up another drive letter???
I was talking about changing the drive letters on your EXISTING devices.

 

[Rotten Venetic]

Ok, I'll make the floppy F if I can :rofl:

 

[Castellon]

Okay let me know.

 

[Lord Kelvin]

Hi

You can try with wine, or cedega.

 

[Castellon]

Those are unsupported operating systems.

 

[kbthiede]

I, too cannot install version 1.08 or 1.09, which saddens me. But I at least was able to get version 1.07 to work, so you should at least try that and see if you like it.

 

[senjaru]

m.b. it will help...

if you really do not want to reinstall your win(formatting harddrive in before preferably), may be this could help you. Just ask smb that do have eu2 v1.09 to copy _all_ the files that were altered by previos patches for you, perhaps together with eu2.exe v 1.09. Taking in consideration that the bulk of them are text files, winrar will zip them to several mb's. then copy them to your eu2 directory. Hopefully it could help.

 

[Castellon]

Um NO that would be Piracy and infringe on Paradox copyrights.
No user may distribute the EXE file.

 

[Rotten Venetic]

Um NO that would be Piracy and infringe on Paradox copyrights.
No user may distribute the EXE file.

But Paradox Entertainment may (when last I checked)...

Anyway, what's so hard about distributing raw patches before you cocoon them with installshield?

 

[Castellon]

No Paradox Entertainment cannot, Copyright is owned by Paradox Interactive.
Patches are distributed the way there are for many reasons of business and security.

 

[Rotten Venetic]

Sorry, typo. Paradox Interactive indeed. I keep putting in the "entertainment" from Blizzard for some reason. Anyhow, patches are distributed for free (still) so what business or security should come into play? The end user is (supposed to) get the files unpacked anyway. Sorry for meddling but in the improbable case that I will ever start/work for a software company, this is need-to-know stuff.