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One Day Only for Me

Sheltonious said:
Anyone else available saturdays 5:30-8:30pm GMT-6?
One day a week is my max and my min. I'd need a clone and an alternate universe to go beyond that. So I'm voting for keeping this a weekly campaign.
 
Pax25 said:
I can maybe play an occasional Saturday, but I can't commit to every week. Two nights a week for those of us with wives and girlfriends just isn't realistic.

P.S. - This country switching business is b.s. Stick with your country and play with it until you are eliminated.

I guess it was wishfull thinking.
 
Fading tradition

I am noticeing a decline in the AAR participation. Any thoughts on the issue?
 
Wrong Save Posted?

Shel. I think you may have posted the wrong save. My date is 483 and you are still at war with Carthage and there is no civil war?
 
Join us on Wednesday

VikingKing said:
I am looking to play the game, if there are spots available.
There are spots available so feel free to show up in MetaSever this Wednesday a little before game time (5:30 pm GMT-6, aka US Central) to claim your country. The current roster is posted at the beginning of this thread, so anything that isn't listed there is up for grabs. I suggest taking a country that is well positioned to thrust a dagger into Rome's heart. But that's just me.

Several of us use Yahoo for pre-game chatting and mid-game post-crash reconvening, so if you have Yahoo IM (http://webmessenger.yahoo.com/) and can join us there, that will be a real help.
 
Carthage 574-485 AVC: The Senate Dithers

Never had Carthage been so ill-served by its newly formed Senate than during the years leading up to the First Punic War. Despite warnings that our armed forces were desperately lacking in senior leadership, the Senate failed to recommend a single general or admiral for command. Consequently, when war came, our fleets went to sea without admirals, and our armies were commanded by political hacks.

The early leaders of the Senate tried desperately to manipulate the system to their ends. But their clumsy efforts resembled more a pack monkeys pulling at fun-house levers than the deft moves of experienced politicians. And were just as effective. They removed, appointed and removed again governors and technologists at a dizzying pace in the hope of producing a military leader. But all to no avail: the pool of generals and admirals remained dry.

The suffets, a dreary parade of six dull-bladed, low-charisma functionaries from four different parties, at least made a consistent effort to improve the Carthaginian navy. They had nearly completed their plans for two 10-ship fleets when war broke out. Had these fleets been combined under one able commander, the course of history may have proved kinder to the Carthaginians.

But as it was, the Senate continued to dither as Rome cunningly declared war on Carthage's only ally, Numidia, and then launched its invasion fleets when the Senate, in a rare display of swift decision making and clarity of purpose, answered its call to arms. And so the First Punic War began, with Rome on the offensive and Carthage hopelessly attempting to play catch up.

It is no wonder then that in the early months and years, the Roman armies captured one Carthaginian province after another. Even Carthage itself fell to the seemingly invincible Roman legions. All were in despair. But then a remarkable event fired the population's will to resist: a raiding party from the Iberian provinces managed to slip past the Roman navy and land in Rome itself! Men cheered! Women laughed! And the Senate roused itself from its ditherings long enough to appoint, or at least not block the appointment, of a competent general.

The tide had turned. Arriving from the western provinces with newly raised armies, Boulomenus Philosirid put his trust in the hands of God and the blades of Numidia and proceeded to sweep the Romans out of North Africa. The Roman armies, depleted by years of continuous battles, were only too happy to sail back to their homeland.

Willing to end the bloodshed, Carthage offered Rome a white peace. The Roman Senate, betraying the peace loving nature of its people, refused. Hoping to find other, more persuasive voices to help bring Rome to its senses, Carthage sent ambassadors to Macedonia, Egypt, and Seleucia. But before an alliance could be formed, Rome struck again. In short order they defeated every Carthaginian army and occupied nearly every province. Despite distant reports of a Macedonian incursion and an incipient civil war on the Roman mainland, Carthage had little choice but to accept Rome's less than generous peace offer, ceding the fair island provinces of Malta, Corsica, and Sardinia.

The First Punic War has ended. Will there be a Second? Or will Rome and Carthage both soon realize that larger threats are looming just over the eastern horizon?
 
Tonight the war continues

Today is the day. I have been waiting a week for the chance to restore the red to the Italian Penninsula, and finish off those pesky macedonian invaders....who might have someone attacking "their" rear flank. Oh the irony.
 
Session 2 Complete

I would like to thank everyone who participated in tonight's session. Rome had their revenge against the troublesome Macedonian's but alas as the campaign's name suggests it was a pyrric victory with yet another civil war to fight. But it is not nearly as bad as the Egyptians. The egyptian rebels took all of Egypt! Poor Pax has been exiled to his Agean Islands. It was fun and I look forward to killing more rebels next session. Strength and Honor to you all.
 
Civil Wars

Civil wars are always a pain. Right before we ended our last session I started my biggest one yet. If you lose a civil war technically you are eliminated because you would have been conquered by another faction and the game would boot you the same as if you had been annexed. So if you lose a civil war obviously you are eliminated. You can come back as another nation but will have no vote and no chance of winning the campaign. The real question here is this:
After a player is eliminated by losing a civil war should he be allowed to come back as the rebels who have taken over his country?

I have been pondering this issue, seeing how a player who is already eliminated has nothing to lose. Discuss.
 
Civil Wars

Obviously I will be eliminated from the victory decision if I lose this civil war, just as I think anyone who has switched or plans to switch countries (unless they are subbing for or taking over for someone) should be eliminated from the victory decision.

Personally, I would vote to allow someone to take over as the rebels, but will abstain from the vote and let you guys decide my fate since I obviously have an interest in the verdict. Again, I would rather come back as the rebels, and be eliminated from the victory equation, rather than come back as a different country, provided I lose the civil war.
 
AAR Egypt AVC 485-499

As the year 485 AVC dawned, the Egyptian empire was experiencing continued growth, peace, and prosperity. In the previous ten years, the Egyptian King had managed to stay out of any major conflicts, while defeating and annexing the Greek islands of Rhodes and Crete, and the Greek city of Sparta. The possibilities were endless. Should they expand westward (toward Carthage), North (towards Macedonia), East (towards their ally the Seleucid Empire), or rally the remaining super-powers to face the ever expanding Romans?

After pondering the maps, meeting with diplomats from all the major powers, and conferring with his closest advisors, the mighty King agreed on a plan to honor their alliance with the Seleucid Empire and divide up the Macedonian territory, since Macedonia was suffering a leadership vaccuum (the prior Macedonia player could not make the session and left his country in the hands of the AI). The Egyptian King knew that if they didn't act quickly, the Romans certainly would. (They would later be proven right, as Rome later demolished the leaderless Macedonians.) However, Egypt lacked a cause for war with the Macedonias, and rather than cause more instability at home, they sent their best asassins to Macedonia to stir up trouble. To their surprise, they not only succeed once in eliminating a 10 martial ranking general, but also in eliminating a 9 rated general as well, all without being detected. Once they were finally caught on a third try, Macedonia knew better than to harm the guilty party.

With the war with Macedonia on the back burner, Egpyt answered the call of her junior ally Armenia who was battling pesky Pontus. However, this must have caused some major sort of disturbance and upheval amongst the Egyptian government, that Civil War erupted and sides were taken.

Once the dust settled, to the Egyptian King's horror, over 50,000 of Egypt's most experienced and well lead troops, including all elephant regiments, joined the rebellion. The great King was left with only 15,000 troops, and fortunately the entire navy of 30 plus ships.

The rebels quickly overtook the entire Egyptian mainland, while the King's army retreated to Sparta, its eastern meditteranean islands of Rhodes and Crete, and the shores of Asia minor. After much patience, a large army was raised and dropped in western Egypt. The King's army won victory after victory, however, they would lose a key battle where their battered and bruised troops were simply overwhelmed by the rebels use of elephants. How ironic that the King's own investment in the most lethal form of combat regiment would lead to his downfall. With all his armies broken and suffering tremendous casualties, the armies boarded their ships and set sail for the Greek Islands to take on fresh recruits.

Currently, the King's army is outnumbered, out manned, suffering terribly in competent generals, and simply cannot gain a foothold on the Egyptian mainland. They are forced to defend the territories in which they have remaining. It is stretching their new found economy to the limit.

So the question is, how long can they remain fighting this losing battle? Will any of their supposed allies come to their aid? Or will Egypt simply be swallowed up by an opportunistic ruler from a distant land? Only the future can tell. But one thing is for sure. The great true Egyptian people will fight without complaint until their last drop of blood is spilt. Hopefully, this page in history will survive so future generations can learn of what it means to fight with honor.
 
Rome 485-499 AVC

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"Roman Vengeance"

In the year 485 Rome was divided in half by civil war and was invaded by Macedonia. The Roman rebels had only one army and it was composed mostly of militia. The Macedonians had 37 units in Northern Italy but they had been depleted to a mere 5,000 troops. Rome had plenty of fresh volunteers ready to fight. And fight they did. The Romans completely destroyed the Macedonian army and soon after crushed the rebels. It was not long after that peace had returned to the Italian peninsula. The Macedonians quickly accepted a white peace from Rome once their army was destroyed. The civil war had cleared the roman senate of the remaining populists, leaving the Military faction in absolute control.

Then Rome watched in amazement as the once powerful Egyptians were torn apart by civil war. The rebels had taken all of Egypt, exiling the true Egyptian King to his mediteranean islands.

Rome and the Seleucid Empire had attempted alliances in the past but had not been able to finalize the deal. The Seleucid King was under heavy pressure from Egypt to not make the intimidating union. And Seleucia's reluctance was understandable. Egypt was the most dangerous nation at the beginning of 485, until disaster struck. With the Egyptian King's severe decline in power, the Seleucid King could now conduct business as he saw fit without fear of reprisal. And so the Roman/Seleucid Alliance was formed.

The first act of the alliance was to carve up the rich lands of Macedonia. The Romans had already been planning on taking their revenge, and had no problem at all splitting greece down the middle. The Romans attacked macedonia soon after their truce had expired and quickly brought the treacherous nation to its knees. With the annexation of Illyria and conquest of half of macedonia's territory, Rome now has a much improved economy. Although there was little time to celebrate the victory in greece. In 499 Rome had begun it's 2nd civil war.

The rebels are rampaging through Italy and greece. Unlike the previous civil war this one had nothing to do with the populist faction (which is all but extinct in Rome), and everything to do with ambitious generals who wanted to have Rome for themselves. The senate is confident that these rebels will be defeated. The rebels have made the same mistake as the defeated Macedonians. They have underestimated Roman Vengeance!
 
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I would join, but you guys are doing this without any edit to the 'extremely' flawed bug that kills all heirs for monarchies? Seriously, it's game breaking.

I did notice that my heirs were dying at an alarming rate. Do they always all die as a result of this supposed bug?
 
I did notice that my heirs were dying at an alarming rate. Do they always all die as a result of this supposed bug?


A heir automatically dies 1-12 months after becoming Heir. Aka monarchies get tons of civil wars, and are greatly weakened by a bullshit error. I personally deleted the event, because it was ruining my games. It's Event 7015 I believe or 5015. It's under Character Ambitions I believe.
 
The problem is that a character needs to hasve just 150 gold for the event to fire, so a LOT of secondary heirs try to improve their position by murdering the primary heir.

Increasing the amount of gold required (tenfold) fixes the problem
 
The problem is that a character needs to hasve just 150 gold for the event to fire, so a LOT of secondary heirs try to improve their position by murdering the primary heir.

Increasing the amount of gold required (tenfold) fixes the problem

<.< fix is a relative term. The event is ridiculous in the first place, then again why do rulers live ridiculously long periods of time?