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I don't see how it wouldn't be.
Umm... the problem with having a common name is that the only thing that is common about International Organizations is that they have the same container in the code base. Let's change the name to "Misfit Toys"
I don't know if a tutorial that talks about the Catholic Church and how it is an IO would provide any insight into Coalitions or the Tatar Yoke. These are distinct enough concepts that could have there own names listed in the Wiki instead of needing a grouping.
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Yes, I had that idea too, but native speakers said that bloc has a modern vibe (like Soviet bloc, NATO etc.):
Also covenant or league came to my mind. At least for certain IOs.
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This is the crux of the problem. They encompass such a wide variety of relationship types that no matter what name you give them, some of them will still feel like they are not fitting into that. It's awkward that it appears in the game and that it feels rather early to carry that name, but IMO it's still better than any of the alternatives I've seen brought up in these discussions.
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It sounds like the issue is that English lacks a fitting term. Are there any words we can loan?
The only other ones I can think of would be confederation, faction, or society
Confederations because that's what most of these are, some kind of grouping of states (voluntary or not) but I feel that isn't accurate for something like the Shogunate or the Yoke (Dominions?)
Factions is pretty generic, makes the most sense in my head as a mapmode button but it also doesn't really communicate entities where one member is a suzerain (Cliques?)
Societies just because we already have SoPs so the terminology is going to be in the game referring to a vaguely similar concept and having Societies of States be a thing sounds like it could be funny
The only other ones I can think of would be confederation, faction, or society
Confederations because that's what most of these are, some kind of grouping of states (voluntary or not) but I feel that isn't accurate for something like the Shogunate or the Yoke (Dominions?)
Factions is pretty generic, makes the most sense in my head as a mapmode button but it also doesn't really communicate entities where one member is a suzerain (Cliques?)
Societies just because we already have SoPs so the terminology is going to be in the game referring to a vaguely similar concept and having Societies of States be a thing sounds like it could be funny
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I *still* like grand association.
Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
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This is why I don't think that they need a name. All it is is a name for a collection of disparate things. Leave the collection (which doesn't matter inside the game) unnamed.
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Disagree, Bloc is a better word. It's exactly what IO's are supposed to represent. As if International Organization was used in 14th century France as opposed to bloc. Bloc feels way more natural and less 'modern' to me than International Organization. Bloc is much shorter and much clearer. Don't let the perfect get in the way of the better.
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I proposed it a while ago, and it seems to have gathered sufficient interest for me to repeat it here, but I still like (political) structures.
Though I agree that it is very much artificial, what unites the Guelf league and the Daimyos of medieval Japan or the countries submitted to the Tatar Yoke.
Though I agree that it is very much artificial, what unites the Guelf league and the Daimyos of medieval Japan or the countries submitted to the Tatar Yoke.
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Political Bloc? Power Bloc? Interest Bloc?
Feels weird to use only one word lol, plus two words opens space for acronyms - IB feels satisfying for me - PB the Americans have coopted for peanut butter.
But so far this thread is trending towards better suggestions for me imo, Bloc is growing in me
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This thread was revived by this suggestion, actually blocs can be categorised and have different flavourful names:
Nice suggestion too. Definitely better than IOs. May be PDS (Political Diplomatic Structures).
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You distinguish between different "organizations", so maybe it could be localized based on the type. A mod, perhaps?
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Yes, bloc is the perfect descriptor for a bunch of Russian states banded together with the common purpose of being victims of the extortion racket known as the Tatar Yoke. Or the whole of the Catholic world banding together to play tithe to the Pope. Or the 300+ Central European states coming together to be the nominal subjects of somebody they've elected from their merry little band.
I maintain what I've said above: while IO is far from ideal, it's still better than any of the proposed alternatives.
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What about "Communia"? Plurals of commune in Latin, this is very abstract so there is no anachronism and it can bend very diverse political realities together due to its vagueness.
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