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Well... Honestly, I think Kasperus' map has sufficient provinces in Asia. China and Japan have at least two dozen each, Korea's got about 6. With all due respect, this game HAS to be Europa Universalis with stress on the first word. In XV century the only non-european countries to have a chance to challenge the Europeans were Turkey and China, with the rest either falling apart (like the Timurides and the Golden Horde) or being only local superpowers (Aztecs, the Inca or Songhai). If there's anything I'd consider bias, it's the absurd revolt risk penalty associated with some Chinese events.
 
Without a new map the hohle project is going to be a flop.

Infact the EU Ingine is already as good as it has to be. Ok..little updates, regulations and so on are a very import thing.
But without a new, larger map, the possibilies for the player are to strong limited, compared with newer map projects(mymap,..).
 
Without a new map the hohle project is going to be a flop.

Infact the EU Ingine is already as good as it has to be. Ok..little updates, regulations and so on are a very import thing.
But without a new, larger map, the possibilies for the player are to strong limited, compared with newer map projects(mymap,..).
:sigh:

AGCEEP lost a lot of momentum and goodwill when it refused to adopt or quickly adapt a new map. I hope the lack of an updated map does no put too much of a damper on FTG. Will the team consider implementing a new map in an expansion?
 
:sigh:

AGCEEP lost a lot of momentum and goodwill when it refused to adopt or quickly adapt a new map. I hope the lack of an updated map does no put too much of a damper on FTG. Will the team consider implementing a new map in an expansion?

Isn't WATK map enough?
 
AGCEEP lost a lot of momentum and goodwill when it refused to adopt or quickly adapt a new map. I hope the lack of an updated map does no put too much of a damper on FTG. Will the team consider implementing a new map in an expansion?
I already announced AGCEEP new map will be published after game release. And this is indeed a free map for a free mod.
 
Please dont make the map too big like HOI3, it just means more micromanagment.

And i also hope it wont be that MyMap, too many provinces and it had ancient names of Anatolia for gods sake... :rofl:
 
Please dont make the map too big like HOI3, it just means more micromanagment.

Micromanagement in EU2? You mean building Tax collectors, Chief judges, and Governors is too much micromanagement to handle it?

And i also hope it wont be that MyMap, too many provinces and it had ancient names of Anatolia for gods sake... :rofl:

Better than the names that the turkish invaders had given to the areas. Besides, the name of the game is Europa Universalis and not Asia Universalis. Greek names should have of course priority before turkish names.
 
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I already announced AGCEEP new map will be published after game release. And this is indeed a free map for a free mod.
How long will be the delay between FTG and the new map?

I looked all over for information on the AGCEEP map, and it seems like the project stagnated and no one's been working on it for a long time. Are you guys going to be making the map after FTG's release?
 
Micromanagement in EU2? You mean building Tax collectors, Chief judges, and Governors is too much micromanagement to handle it?

Yeah, mouse-click-feast is not my definition of "fun".



Better than the names that the turkish invaders had given to the areas.

This is not about "better" or "worst". Using ancient names for that area is just silly and stupid. Its like calling London for "Londonium" for this timeframe :rofl: Anatolia had Ottoman names by than and even the Byzantines used the Ottoman names as soon as 20 years after their conquest.

Besides, the name of the game is Europa Universalis and not Asia Universalis. Greek names should have of course priority before turkish names.

Sorry but, i cant see the connection between the name of the game and using Greek names of places... :p
 
It's the same reason we use the English versions for most of the names on the map. Or would you prefer all the other nations to impose their own script on the map, making it practically impossible to read? Let's allow the chinese to have their own alphabet, let's allow the arabs have their own alphabet, hell I have four or five provinces I would like to rename...
 
I couldn't stand the so many countries had the same color in Eu2. So many greens in Europe, some only provinces away from eachover. Good to see this is being fixed, one of the games little annoyances for me. I will prefer this to Eu3, I think.
 
The map is still under construction but it should be ready when the game will be released.

Excellent, the limited map has been keeping me from enjoying EU2 to the fullest ever since I found out about MMP.

Anatolia had Ottoman names by than and even the Byzantines used the Ottoman names as soon as 20 years after their conquest.

Actually not true, the Greeks used the traditional names for Anatolia until a generation after 1453. They were very conservative with their language in those days, one of the reasons writers disliked cannon was because there was no classical word for it, unless you wanted to call it "pipe", "barrel", or "catapult". Most settled for the simple "apparatus".

Some Greek irridentists actually continued to use the Roman names for Anatolian cities and regions until 1922, when any dreams of the Turks giving up western Anatolia or Constantinople were brutally crushed. Though there were some in the regions even up until the 80s who refused to use the word "Istanbul".

This isn't much of a topic for the FTG forum, though.
 
Excellent, the limited map has been keeping me from enjoying EU2 to the fullest ever since I found out about MMP.



Actually not true, the Greeks used the traditional names for Anatolia until a generation after 1453. They were very conservative with their language in those days, one of the reasons writers disliked cannon was because there was no classical word for it, unless you wanted to call it "pipe", "barrel", or "catapult". Most settled for the simple "apparatus".

Some Greek irridentists actually continued to use the Roman names for Anatolian cities and regions until 1922, when any dreams of the Turks giving up western Anatolia or Constantinople were brutally crushed. Though there were some in the regions even up until the 80s who refused to use the word "Istanbul".

This isn't much of a topic for the FTG forum, though.

a generation is 25 years, not much difference with 20 years.

Anatolia first ever name was Hattia (BC times), during the BYZ period from 1000 AD to 1453 it was called Samos ( after the greek island with same name) but the capital was smyrna, the Latins always called it Asia Minor.

note ; Asia minor was only for the coastal areas , the interior was named Lydia.

Please yourselves on what name you want

Anatolia (Anadolu), Turkey Asia Minor, Rûm The western peninsula of Turkey lying in the Asiatic and larger part of the country, now comprising four geographical regions (West, East, Southeast and Central Anatolia). Historically called Asia Minor, it was called ‘(Land of the) Rûm’ (Rome or Roman) by the Greeks. Anatolia is derived from the Greek anatole ‘east’ or ‘sunrise’, which referred to the Byzantine province situated to the east of the original Turkoman principality in north‐west Asia Minor. To the Greeks this region was the outer limit of the known world, hence the name. Rumeli, ‘Roman land’, a name later used to describe Ottoman Turkish conquests in Europe, was replaced by Anadolu. Only in 1923 did the Treaty of Lausanne recognize Turkish ownership of Anatolia.
 
Is it possible to make sea on map in different color than oceans?
For example now we have same color for all waters - it is dark blue. But if it possible - why don't change color of sea e.g. for light blue or similar ?. I think it will be look more real ;)
 
it is a pity if no new map for FTG.if EU2 has a map like eu3,it must be very excited

When there will been finished PMW, BoPMOD and AU, there will be respectively a map for antiquity, a map for late antiquity and early Middle Age and a map for Middle Age. In fact, the implementation of the maps in FTG is the same of Eu2, accordingly there will be no problems to convert these maps from Eu2 to FTG.
Besides, all these three maps will be set between Western Africa to Indonesia, so these maps will have more provinces density than any other current map (also than MyMAP, for example)