They will get their very own dedicated threeway Civil War ^^
Seems historically implausible, so perhaps?
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They will get their very own dedicated threeway Civil War ^^
With just 22 days to go until a decision, there were concerns that Churchill may not approve the request.
The issue came to a sudden and dramatica head on 21 February 1939, when as a seeming bolt out of the blue Italy declared war on Yugoslavia. In an eery parallel to the Great War, it fell to Belgrade to be the capital that had refused to bow to an ultimatum and then found itself attacked, even if the delay was longer this time. This Italian attack immediately escalated the conflict, with France honouring its guarantee to defend Yugoslavia. On paper (and only imprecise reports at that in these early stages) the Italians appeared heavily outnumbered.
Almost ignored now in the background, the Spanish Civil War just ground on.
What could only be described as a period of ‘March Madness’ began when Britain lit the fuse in the Middle East. They took a dislike to the ruling Hashemite regime in Iraq and declared war on 2 March, with the aim of making Iraq a British puppet.
But the situation soon escalated. Somehow, Iran became involved on 6 March, Churchill apparently taking offence at something they had said or done. And then, for reasons not immediately clear in Poland, the Netherlands was suddenly dragged into the conflict on the 7th, with the puppeting of Curacao now added to that of Iraq and Iran as British war goals!
France then joined the Allies on 10 March, with a call to arms from them issued to all the Allies the following day. Yugoslavia then joined the Allies on the 12th. Poland joined this stumbling rush to war, not wanting to appear a weak-kneed fellow-traveller within the alliance. So now found itself at war with Italy, but with Britain and France as major allies.
By 19 March, two somewhat confusingly separately defined but overlapping wars were going on side by side. The main upshot though remained the Allies against Italy with Iraq, Iran and the Netherlands as side-theatres. The Allies retained the upper hand in total military strength and industrial power.
Churchill was proving to be more of a ‘global bully’ than even Mussolini!
This triggered a new round of escalation after Italy declared war on the morning of the 7th. Germany fulfilled a pledge to come to the aid of the brave Albanians and quickly joined the Allies, as did Albania. Germany then honoured France’s call to arms and now they too were participants in the wider French (Allied)-Italian War!
At this stage, Poland was trying to produce all the various equipment it needed to sustain its growing army and the trade resources necessary to sustain their military factories. And things seemed largely on track.
The Empire of Japan would like to secure a bound pledge from Poland, we will vote for Proposition 127.5 (Brittany remains a Polish puppet) in exchange for a Polish vote on Proposition 439.2 (New Zealand is jointly annexed by Japan and the Socialist Republic of Algeria).Well, wow. This latest chapter should be required reading for anyone who thinks HOI4 is not bat excrement crazy. The peace conference for this is going to be migraine inducing.
Not so fast, the world holiday celebrating the discovery of glow-in-the-dark artificially flavored crushed ice drinks is not until July 11. The Empire, Republic, Kingdom and People's Republic of France wishes The Great Potentate Winston Churchill and our fellow members of the World Peace Organization to recognize the Ryukyu Islands trustee-ship over the Japanese Islands. Thank you for your time and France is ready to help deliver a smack-down on anyone that does not recognize the moral superiority of the WPO.We better wrap this up quick before Le Jones runs out of synonyms for guano.
The Empire of Japan would like to secure a bound pledge from Poland, we will vote for Proposition 127.5 (Brittany remains a Polish puppet) in exchange for a Polish vote on Proposition 439.2 (New Zealand is jointly annexed by Japan and the Socialist Republic of Algeria).
This seems very apposite. I've been surprised at how aggressive the UK has been under Churchill.We shall fight on their beaches, we shall fight on their landing grounds, we shall fight in their fields and their streets; we shall fight in their hills; they shall always surrender.
- this timeline’s version of Winston Churchill’s famous speech; probably. It certainly would fit Great Britain’s aggressive streak in this game.
Almost certainly'I have nothing to offer but the blood, toil, tears and sweat of the helpless enemy, and a fuckton of oil too!'
- Said Winston S Chuchill. Probably.
True I guess, though my experience is limited and I did switch it to Vaudeville (ie non-historical foci).Well, wow. This latest chapter should be required reading for anyone who thinks HOI4 is not bat excrement crazy. The peace conference for this is going to be migraine inducing.
For whom? (genuine question). Of all the faction on offer, at this point anyway the Allies look pretty good for Poland with the UL, France and Germany all aboard and the US a potential later participant, while a Trostkyist USR lurks on the eastern border with nothing better to do than think darg permanent revolutionary thoughts about Poland.Historians may well refer to this as the "wasted opportunity", with lots of what iffery.
Indeed. But playing the game, you get used to it soon enough.I still find it baffling that your Germany and Russia are led by Adenauer and Trotsky respectively.
Hmm, an interesting aside. Silly them.I've seen this a lot in HOI4 - Italy triggering WW2 by going for Yugoslavia.
In game as well as in life.It was ever thus.
Hair on fire, running around madly, petrol strewn everywhereBecause, of course this makes sense.
Bat defecation madness at the ready
Thanks! More madness in store, no doubt, but this initial tranche of it is pretty guano-ish, I agree!Oh dear
At this stage, Poland is probably trying to work out what in the name of God is going on.
Great stuff @Bullfilter - even if the events portrayed grow madder by the update...
We better wrap this up quick before Le Jones runs out of synonyms for guano.
The Empire of Japan would like to secure a bound pledge from Poland, we will vote for Proposition 127.5 (Brittany remains a Polish puppet) in exchange for a Polish vote on Proposition 439.2 (New Zealand is jointly annexed by Japan and the Socialist Republic of Algeria).
Not so fast, the world holiday celebrating the discovery of glow-in-the-dark artificially flavored crushed ice drinks is not until July 11. The Empire, Republic, Kingdom and People's Republic of France wishes The Great Potentate Winston Churchill and our fellow members of the World Peace Organization to recognize the Ryukyu Islands trustee-ship over the Japanese Islands. Thank you for your time and France is ready to help deliver a smack-down on anyone that does not recognize the moral superiority of the WPO.
The sponsor never minds a bit of cross-promotion by or for pAARtipating readAARs!If the sponsor chooses to sue me for invoking a competing AAR, I hope that he realizes that I have Dewey Cheatem and his legal beagles on retainer.
News came via diplomatic channels on 5 June that the Kingdom of Greece was justifying a war goal against Albania, where they clearly had some opportunistic territorial ambitions of their own. Didn’t they realise that any attack could bring them into conflict with the Allies? They must be banking on cooperating with the Italians – but it seemed rather unwise.
Iraq capitulated on 5 September 1936, which appeared to wrap up the Allied campaign in the Middle East and Central Asia, at least.
Is this a pretty normal timeframe for the SCW to resolve? Grudging credit where it is due if so, otherwise praise RNGesus.On 21 June, the Forgotten War in Spain came to an end, the pro-Fascist Nationalists taking the victory.
R.I.P. @RustyHunterGood news came towards the end of August, as Iran capitulated following an Allied offensive (mainly from the Raj in the east) that had quickly overrun their resistance over the last few months.
Even in an "ahistorical" game I am pleased to see that the historical behavior of every country demanding an impractical and ineffective strategic bombing force remains constant.In Poland, after some concerted exercising over recent months, the first air doctrine was unlocked. It was decided that the ‘strategic destruction’ branch would be pursued, mainly for its defensive benefits.
At this point everybody is staring at Trotsky saying "Wellll...?" and waiting for the other Red Shoe to drop.Interestingly, Greece joined the MAB with Communist China rather than the Fascist Asian League, which Italy had aligned with.
Might have been quicker to just invade the Czechs, would honestly have been sensible in this ATL particularly as Poland did have some halfway-legitimate quarrels over territory ("legitimate" being a relative term here, compared to what else is going on...).Four days later, it was noted things were progressing a little slowly in Piedmont and that the main Allies only had eight divisions deployed there now. Poland decided it was time to start contributing more practically to the Allied cause and start to give units and generals some combat experience. The initial contribution would be a corps of four infantry divisions from the 3rd Army on the Czech border, which embarked on their long train trip on 20 December.
In fairness, I'm a bit surprised this didn't happen in OTL. Multiple times, possibly annually as a tradition. The Greeks and Turks really do not seem to like each other very much.In my democratic Germany game, [...] Greece declared war on Turkey,
Is this a pretty normal timeframe for the SCW to resolve? Grudging credit where it is due if so, otherwise praise RNGesus.
In fairness, I'm a bit surprised this didn't happen in OTL. Multiple times, possibly annually as a tradition. The Greeks and Turks really do not seem to like each other very much.
I am sorry @RustyHunter but Iran does not see September 1939. Will your Poland last longer than @Bullfilter's Iran?
I'm so mixed on this AAR, the Iranians have already been crushed into dust by the Allied steamroller, but Nationalist China can still be saved! I'm rooting for China to win the day and crush Puyi, but that might be a bit far fetched.R.I.P. @RustyHunter
It is four 7TPs welded together, it would be a 28TP but some bits fell off in the manufacturing process so it is not quite 4x the tankiness.I'm assuming the 27TP is just the name you came up with for a fictional Polish heavy tank?
Quick answer: no, that’s what the game calls them. I haven’t checked to see if anything like that was ever contemplated by the Poles at the time.I'm assuming the 27TP is just the name you came up with for a fictional Polish heavy tank?
China looked to be on the verge of defeat. Thankfully the brave Polish soldiers (and friends) will save them.The big news for the Allies was Italy siding with Imperial Kwantung and the Asian League. This then caused a familiar cascading effect, dragging the Allies into the Chinese conflict, while Iran and Iraq also sided with this Fascist grouping. It culminated in China joining the Allies
In more ways than one since my color-blind eyes can barely tell the difference between the Reds of CCP and the UK in China.In the Europe and the Middle East, the factional battle lines were more clearly drawn.
The AI doesn't need such petty concerns as "logic".Greece was justifying a war goal against Albania, where they clearly had some opportunistic territorial ambitions of their own. Didn’t they realise that any attack could bring them into conflict with the Allies?
Probably good for the Allies, since the Republicans might've joined Trotsky's faction.On 21 June, the Forgotten War in Spain came to an end, the pro-Fascist Nationalists taking the victory.
Let's hope the trend continues.Polish manpower was now strong after shortages in previous years, political capital was good. Overall, things seemed to be all right for now in the Second Republic.
This probably helps Greece more since the Allies seem to be focusing most of their efforts on the Asian League at the moment.Interestingly, Greece joined the MAB with Communist China rather than the Fascist Asian League, which Italy had aligned with.
I look forward to the saga of the Polish Defense Force fighting in Italy, China, and across the globe.The initial contribution would be a corps of four infantry divisions from the 3rd Army
Best I can tell - sort of. The Poles had a project for a ~25 tonne medium tank that got as far as a single wooden mockup by September 1939. Given the tendency of all tank projects to gain weight and the deeply imaginative Polish tank naming scheme (weight of tank in tonnes then a P for Polish) then by late 1940 they might have ended up with a 27P medium tank. Maybe. Or they'd have gone for the rival, far lighter, design which was probably more buildable by Polish industry.Quick answer: no, that’s what the game calls them. I haven’t checked to see if anything like that was ever contemplated by the Poles at the time.