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Didn't think I had the research or industry to bother much with CAS development, have gone with fighters and TAC. Are CAS worth it (NB I'm really a newb in this game, especially on the air and naval side of things).
CAS help with being able to push a frontline by damaging the strength of enemy divisions. Maybe the next time you have some factories free you could try it out. You don't need as much CAS as you do fighters. 50-100 maybe.
I don't at present and am unaware of how to find out. The game doesn't seem to have the same kind of ledger system that HOI3 had, so you could get a more specific feel for that. If anyone knows, please sing out!
The only way I know of is to look at the intel of other countries and get a rough count of how many ships each side has.
There was also disappointing news from Sulawesi where (as some commentators had speculated) the British landing in the south had not been supported and the Allied advance restricted to the northern peninsula.
At least there aren't any Japanese divisions on the frontline. Though they might be hiding in the fow.
The Western pacific was littered with at least 40 British, six French, three Dutch and three Mexican divisions.
So many...What is the AI doing?
 
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Given the supply infrastructure between the Chinese heartlands and the west of the country (that is: none whatsoever), I’m almost wondering if it would be easier to build a flotilla of 100-200 transport planes and have them do aerial resupply.
Possibly, though for now I'll persist with the infra upgrade program and see where it takes me. It's been a useful learning experience, if nothing else. Will bear it in mind for the future.
I am getting flashbacks to the old HOI2/3 AI and it's love of putting 99 division in a pile onto tiny islands for no apparent reasons.
Deja vu all over again! :rolleyes:
Another stepping stone across the Pacific.
Yes, though a very small one for a rather large foot. :confused:
Dark times in Austria, the choice being between two flavours of fascist. Austrofascist or Nazi fascist. Either way you end up with a one party police state that wanted to dominate every part of it's citizen's lives, it's just one was a bit more Catholic than the other and probably less murdery.
Yes, Scylla and Charybdis strike again.
CAS help with being able to push a frontline by damaging the strength of enemy divisions. Maybe the next time you have some factories free you could try it out. You don't need as much CAS as you do fighters. 50-100 maybe.
Right - the Air Ministry is paying some attention. ;)
The only way I know of is to look at the intel of other countries and get a rough count of how many ships each side has.
OK. I may get around to that at some point and maybe compare to earlier totals to see if there's been any major trend change (in loss or construction and relative strength). Mebbe. ;)
At least there aren't any Japanese divisions on the frontline. Though they might be hiding in the fow.
Yes, a low lying jungle fog, I think!
So many...What is the AI doing?
o_O Fracking around pointlessly, I suspect! :rolleyes:

To All: Thanks for the comments. Next chapter posted soon: I must say this current period of strategic ennui is a strange one after the initial ahistorical zaniness and pace of the early moves. But anyway, I'll follow it wherever it goes and see what happens!
 
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Chapter Thirty-Two: Empty Pockets (July-August 1943)
Chapter Thirty-Two: Empty Pockets
(July-August 1943)


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July 1943: Turned Tables

Just as June was ending, the British had begun an amphibious assault on the Imperial Kwantung-controlled island of Palau in the western Pacific.

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Much of the front in Sinkiang was in stalemate, as neither side could seem to break the other’s line. Poland had withdrawn its exhausted troops from most of the front-line provinces back to better supplied rear areas, leaving one division each in northern and southern Jiuquan to aid the Allied defence. These had been probed heavily during June and each would be attacked and held four times during July, ending each time in heavy Communist losses (a summary will be provided in the monthly reports). Elsewhere on the Sinkiang front, the Allies and Communists exchanged regular attacks, but none succeeded.

Instead, most movement and focus during the month would be in South East Asia and the western Pacific, where Allied forces were engaged with both Communist and Fascist enemies in Indochina, Sulawesi and Palau.

Poland achieved its focus on fighter modernisation on 6 July, though new research on the next (1944) model would be held over for now. A new focus on improving Polish mechanisation was begun.

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In Laos and northern Vietnam, the previous Allied advance on Hanoi had been thrown back now the Communists had massed more forces and were intent on expelling both Allied and Fascist formations from the area.

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In Sulawesi, the Allies were again in the familiar position of trying to expand out of the narrow northern peninsula with insufficient forces.

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While in Palau, Nationalist Chinese troops under British command had managed to land on the south of the island and were attacking the port of North Palau, with naval gunfire support.

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As probes were traded in Sinkiang over the next few weeks, by 22 July the situation in Indochina had worsened badly for the Allies. Up to 8 French and German divisions had been pocketed in and to the west of Vientiane, with no apparent prospect of rescue and their comrades were pushed south in Vietnam. This looked like being a major disaster for the Allied effort in Indochina, which had appeared so promising when they had been advancing on Hanoi the month before.

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In Palau, the fight for North Palau still raged, as Kwantung tried to counter-attack. And 17 British divisions were now garrisoned in the Caroline Islands!

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Sulawesi remained in stalemate, though the Allies appeared to be building up forces again.

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In Sinkiang, as the month drew to a close Polish work crews continued the long task of creating a new supply hub in Kunlun Shan and had embarked on an upgrade of the northern and southern railway lines to Dabancheng and Kunlun Shan.

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The PRC had continued its southern expansion during July, even if it and its partners had made little progress in the north-west.

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As mentioned earlier, a series of probes where the Poles had troops stationed in Jiuquan had been beaten off during the month with heavy enemy casualties.

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The Chamdo Pocket was still holding out.

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While in Indochina, the Vientiane Pocket had consolidated after a temporary pause in enemy attacks, but the Communists pressed on in central Vietnam.

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The Allies were slowly gaining the upper hand in Palau, but the battle continued after over a month of fighting.

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While in Sulawesi, the Allies had pushed through along the coast, in a possibly risky attempt to outflank the Japanese.

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August 1943: Disaster in Vientiane

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Surrounded French troops retreat towards Vientiane, August 1943.

By 7 August, the position for the Allied troops surrounded in Laos was desperate. They had just been forced out of Vientiane itself by PRC troops as the supply and organisation of the other 7 divisions trapped to its west evaporated.

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In southern Sinkiang, a cavalry assault by the Fascist Ma Clique on 11 March tried to seize the partly built supply hub in southern Kunlun Shan, held by a single Polish mountain division. The other mountain unit had been ordered forward a few days before but were still somewhat disorganised and would take some time to reinforce their colleagues.

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After a tough four-day battle, the Poles would hold out and more troops would be ordered forward when they had recovered in the rear echelon rest areas.

By 13 August, only 6 of the 8 original Allied divisions trapped in the Vientiane Pocket remained in the fight. All were low on supplies and approaching exhaustion.

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On Sulawesi, the Japanese were counter-attacking the Allied salient on the west coast, which was holding for now.

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The Battle of Palau had been won in during the previous week, with a huge collection of British divisions crammed into the Caroline Islands.

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After a call in the press for the production of CAS aircraft to support the army, a production line was set up for the obsolete Karaś dive bomber – the best design currently available to the Poles. While some thought may be given to upgrading this design in the future, for now other priorities (a new TAC design, then an advanced fighter) were the next in line for air force modernisation.

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Given the deadlock in western China, when the latest rail network upgrades were completed in mid-August, it was decided that a new air base would be built in Urumqi. Maybe some air support would help break through against either the Communists or the Ma Fascists and make their attacks even costlier.

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At the same time, HQ 4th Army began returning now rested divisions to the front line in preparation for another limited offensive in Sinkiang, this time in the centre and south of the front.

Between 5 and 21 August, four research projects were completed across a range of disciplines, with new work on radar, TAC bombers, industry and AT guns commenced.

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And by 22 August, the last of the 8 trapped divisions in the Vientiane Pocket had surrendered in what was an unmitigated disaster for the Allied cause in Indochina. The line was showing signs of stabilising again in central Vietnam, but half the Allied strength in the theatre had been destroyed. If the Communist divisions freed up from the encirclement were all redeployed to that front, they may be able to force their way through.

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The Polish divisions gathered for the new offensive were ready early on 26 August, their attack beginning with an artillery barrage at 0500hr. A corps-sized assault rolled into the single PRC division defending that sector in Haixi: 119 Shensi Juntuán held out for two days before being forced to retreat.

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If the breakthrough could be secured, the intention was for the Poles to push south-east in an attempt to outflank the XMS fascists in the hope of launching a second from Kunlun Shan to take their capital of Golmud. And maybe the other Allied forces in the area might try to push east against the Communists if a hole could be opened in the southern part of their line.

The PRC’s progress in the south had continued during August, though it may have been halted for now in Vietnam.

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August had seen continued probes in Jiuquan, where the Poles retained a presence in the north, but had now left the defence of southern Jiuquan to the Allies as more forces were moved south for the new offensive.

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Supply in Sinkiang was better than it had been, with level 2 rail lines extending to the front, but the new forward supply hub in the south would not be finished until December. Supply in the front-line areas was still unable to fully keep up with demand.

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The Chamdo pocket had almost been squeezed shut during August, with only three Allied divisions left in the fight after the PLA had liquidated the southern remnant of XSM and could now attack from all directions.

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Most of the British units that had been gathered in Saigon in June had dispersed over the next two months and by 31 August, a renewed Communist offensive seemed to have cracked the Allied line and had the advantage in two more battles that continued.

[NB: this whole campaign has reminded me very much of the OTL Korean War in its ebbs and flows.]

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In the South-western Pacific a lot of Allied divisions were distributed around the islands, especially in the Caroline Islands, when more of them might have been usefully deployed in Indochina or perhaps a new invasion to retake Borneo.

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While in Sulawesi, the precarious Allied salient had been partly pushed back.

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All in all, the last two months had been dour and deadlocked in western China, disastrous around Chamdo and Indochina and indecisive in Sulawesi. The only real gain had been against the small Kwantung outpost of Palau: hardly a game-changing gain!
 
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This is one of those situations where you wonder if IRL, both sides would be looking for a ceasefire and negotiate at this point.
 
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[NB: this whole campaign has reminded me very much of the OTL Korean War in its ebbs and flows.]
An interesting observation that I hadn't thought of, but I agree with it.

I'm not sure what the UK AI is doing in the Pacific. Maybe it just doesn't want to use up all of the supplies in Indochina or Sulawesi and is waiting for a better opportunity. Or it could be planning more naval invasions.
 
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Just remembered, in the bottom right corner there's a button that says "see allied battleplans" or something like that. It'll let you see if any naval invasions/offensives are being planned.
 
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It is almost incredible that after four versions of the game and countless patches and DLCs that Paradox are still producing AIs that get confused by islands. You would have thought they might have made some improvements by now, if only by accident, yet clearly not.

At the risk of rose tinted glasses I'm fairly sure HOI1 AI did it better so it's arguable they've actually got worse at it over the years.
 
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It is almost incredible that after four versions of the game and countless patches and DLCs that Paradox are still producing AIs that get confused by islands. You would have thought they might have made some improvements by now, if only by accident, yet clearly not.

At the risk of rose tinted glasses I'm fairly sure HOI1 AI did it better so it's arguable they've actually got worse at it over the years.

All those designers must have gone over to CK3. There's no naval mechanics at all in that game, which means the AI doesn't care if there's a target that's an island. They'll just walk to it.

Problem solved!
 
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This is one of those situations where you wonder if IRL, both sides would be looking for a ceasefire and negotiate at this point.
Yes, it's true, but the HOI series doesn't seem to give the player the same kind of options in this regard as other PDX games do.
An interesting observation that I hadn't thought of, but I agree with it.

I'm not sure what the UK AI is doing in the Pacific. Maybe it just doesn't want to use up all of the supplies in Indochina or Sulawesi and is waiting for a better opportunity. Or it could be planning more naval invasions.
Re Vietnam: not an exact replica, but similar in ebb and flow I thought, substituting the Kwantung etc fascists for DPRK, but then bringing in the PRC + Japan for the big Communist offensive.

On the Pacific: a bit more revealed about that in the next chapter. Your comments were sage. :cool:
Just remembered, in the bottom right corner there's a button that says "see allied battleplans" or something like that. It'll let you see if any naval invasions/offensives are being planned.
Which proved most instructive, thanks! :)
It is almost incredible that after four versions of the game and countless patches and DLCs that Paradox are still producing AIs that get confused by islands. You would have thought they might have made some improvements by now, if only by accident, yet clearly not.

At the risk of rose tinted glasses I'm fairly sure HOI1 AI did it better so it's arguable they've actually got worse at it over the years.
All those designers must have gone over to CK3. There's no naval mechanics at all in that game, which means the AI doesn't care if there's a target that's an island. They'll just walk to it.

Problem solved!
That’s pretty much the HOI4 mechanic, isn’t it? :D
As so I was thinking, but we can see if we wish to re-assess our views after the next update. ;)
 
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Chapter Thirty-Three: Air Time (September – November 1943)
Chapter Thirty-Three: Air Time
(September – November 1943)


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PZL.37 Łoś tactical bombers deployed to Urumqi, September 1943.

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1-14 September 1943: Flying East

The Polish Air Force created a new bomber wing in Lwów as September 1943 started, using 62 PZL.37s that had been stockpiled. While a new model of tactical bomber (the PZL.49 Miś) was then being researched, the Łoś remained the standard Polish bomber at that point. The PAF was preparing to transfer aircraft to Urumqi as soon as the new airfield there had been completed.

In the meantime, Polish troops were the first to occupy a new province in Haixi on 3 September, following their victorious attack there at the end of August. They were soon counter-attacked but won that battle within a day. Another Communist attack in northern Jiuquan was defeated easily, while Allied and Communist forces continued to exchange attacks in between them.

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After the completion of the air base in Urumqi at midnight on 4 September, the latest construction project to be commenced in Sinkiang was a rail line to link the two branches of the supply railway network behind the front line. It was hoped this would eventually improve supply exchange along the line and between the two branches. The new forward supply hub in Kunlun Shan remained under construction, not due to be completed until mid-December.

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And the PAF immediately began transferring the first two air wings – one of fighters and one of tactical bombers – from Lwów to Urumqi. Extra ground crew were also sent in [though I couldn’t work out whether they apply to the aircraft based there, or to aircraft operating in the air sector and you have to add more for those operating from there in other sectors – such as Qinghai or Western China, for example].

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It took a while for the PAF to re-base the wings and then work out the correct air orders to get their bombers engaged [ie which buttons to click and where :D]. So there was no air support available for an attack that pushed further south-east into Haixi that lasted from 6-10 September, ending in a hard-fought Polish victory for 5, 7 and 8 DPs.

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2. DM (a fighter wing) arrived in Urumqi on the night of 7 September, but its range restricted it to operating only over Allied lines in Central Asia and it did not have the range to cover most of the forward lines. 4. DB (TAC) arrived on the evening of 9 September. They had the range to operate deeply into enemy territory in Western China and Qinghai, though would not be able to rely on fighter escort.

By that time, the final part of the Chamdo Pocket was under heavy attack and close to surrender, though it was still holding out on 11 September as the PAF finally began to operate, with fighters providing interceptor cover (as a precaution) in Central Asia and 4. DB beginning ground support missions in Qinghai.

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On 14 September, Poland completed another national focus advance as it continued its modernisation drive, now concentrating on armoured vehicles. Tank design would be studied next, followed by anti-blitz vehicles.

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The air picture over the Asian Theatre at this time indicated where each side seemed to be maintaining the upper hand in the air.

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But by this stage all transmissions out of the Chamdo Pocket had ceased: all Allied forces there had been destroyed.

In South East Asia, the Communists continued to drive the Allies back in southern Vietnam and now northern Cambodia. In Sulawesi, the Allies had made another push inland, but Japanese resistance remained cohesive across the front.

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Intelligence reports on the US showed they had been busily drawing up war plans for intervention in Asia and were currently working on War Plan Yellow, involving contingency plans for attacks on China.

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15-30 September 1943: Bombs Away!

The first active PAF support for ground operations in Sinkiang (only daylight missions were being flown) came on 15 September, when 65 bombers supported a defence by 5, 7 and 8 DPs after they completed their advance into south-east Haixi and were counter-attacked by Communist forces. The battle was won that night, with PAF bomb damage assessment officers beginning to track the impact the bombing raids were having, with modest results to start with.

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After a research advance in AT guns (all research progress summarised at the end of the chapter), the production lines were upgraded from 47mm to 76mm guns, which temporarily slowed production in the one line of weapons where the Poles had a deficit, from over 65% down to just over 20% efficiency.

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From 22 September onwards, the PAF began providing ground support to a number of Allied ground battles (attack and defence) in the Qinghai air sector. On 24 September, another smaller (42 x PZL.37s in 3. DB) were transferred to Urumqi from Nowogródek.

As September drew to a close, Allied battle planning was shared on a number of fronts. In Sinkiang, the underpinning for a series of Allied probes in the centre of the line was revealed.

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Allied hopes to hold and then even throw back the latest Communist offensive in Indochina were also revealed.

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Of much interest [@El Pip, @jak7139, me, et al] was an explanation of the seemingly incongruous British Army build up in the small islands of the Western Pacific. The main bases were now Marcus Island and Saipan, which between them housed over 40 Allied divisions. They had plans for invasions of Kwantung-held Iwo Jima and Okinawa and a bold plan for an invasion of southern Japan!

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In Europe, where Czechoslovakia and Austria were not in the Allies, Germany had contingency plans to hit either or both with massive offensives.

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While, unlikely as it seemed, the British, Mexicans and Canadians had a few plans to to attack, but this seemed both unlikely diplomatically and dubious given the number of divisions the US was fielding, especially in the south.

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After preparing and positioning units throughout the month, early on 28 September the Poles launched an opportunistic attack on Golmud (the fascist XSM capital), with the air support they had previously been unable to apply. The main problem though was that because of prior combat and poor supply, the participating divisions were already low on organisation. While the enemy were well dug in on mountain terrain.

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By midday on the 30th, the last attacking unit had been forced to give up after being beaten off with heavy losses. The attack had been a significant failure, confirming assessments that until maybe supply had been improved via the new hub in mid-December (if even that was sufficient) it would be hard to mount a sustainable attack.

As the month ended, there had been little significant change in front lines throughout the theatre.

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October 1943: Reorganisation

3. DB had arrived in Urumqi by the evening of 2 October and was ready to start operations. It was assigned to provide air support to Allied forces in the Western China sector, where the front line was easily in range. The PAF assessed this should be out of enemy fighter interception range, but this would soon be found out.

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Small numbers of Polish bombers began to support Allied operation in the north of the line soon after, with the first being a British attack on 4 October (5 planes).

On the morning of 5 October, following the failed attack on Golmud, Polish divisions in Haixi began withdrawing to reserve positions to recuperate. Some were left left in place either to defend the building of the new forward supply hub, the salient in south-east Haixi (where another attack had been defeated on 4 October, with PAF air support) and the one division still left in northern Jiuquan. Only one division in reserve (28 DP) remained at almost full organisation and strength after the previous month’s exertions.

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By 8 October the PAF (3. DB) was sending 13 planes for defensive Allied air support in Jiuquan and for attacking support on 14 October, though the effect of this was likely to be fairly minor.

On 14 October, the line in Indochina had seemingly stabilised again, but a Japanese-Chinese breakout in northern Cambodia looked a bit threatening as predominantly German and French divisions tried to re-establish a solid defensive line.

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With fighter range an issue and heavy fighter research so far non-existent in Poland, the PAF started looking at options for getting greater range for fighter escort and interception in the greater distances of the Far East. An extended range modification for the current PZL.56 Kania fighters would give then an extra 100km.

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But the upgrade to the top-of-the-line Polish fighter model, the PZL.62 (range of 1,200km), could be fast-tracked when a research slot became available for it, and perhaps an extended range option also added to that later. So for now, no change was made to the existing PZL.56 fit-out.

On 23 October, the first recorded example of enemy ground support missions being flown in Western China was recorded, with 100 aircraft hitting the Allied defence in southern Jiuquan, while the 13 available bombers of 3. DB supported the defenders. There was no air-air combat recorded.

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November 1943: One China?

In early November, most Polish divisions had disengaged in Sinkiang for rest and repair and the front in Sinkiang had remained comparatively quiet. The Communists had advanced a little further in southern Indochina, though the Allies seemed to have funnelled in some more reinforcements and were strongly counter-attacking the latest breakthrough in the centre.

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In Sulawesi, the previous Allied advance inland had been pushed back once more to the base of the northern peninsula.

With the new north-south rail line completed in eastern Sinkiang on 4 November, work began on a further upgrade of the British system (to grade 3) from Delhi through Lahore to Peshawar and then Hotan. The priorities were updated on 9 November, with more work initiated on the southern (Hotan-Kunlun Shan) and northern (Urumqi-Dabancheng) lines begun and given higher priority.

In an announcement whose immediate significance (if any) was not entirely clear, Chairman Mao declared a ‘One China Policy’ on 14 November.

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The situation in Indochina remained in the balance, but Allied reinforcements were streaming in to help stem the red tide.

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The next national focus was concluded on 23 November, with the anti-blitz vehicles getting the next attention, which may help remedy the continuing AT production shortfall.

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The Asia-Pacific Theatre had seen only minor net changes in western China and Sulawesi over the previous three months. Things had been more interesting in Indochina as the Communist advance was finally being blunted, while an interesting new development had occurred in the Western Pacific. Interestingly, Japan had taken over occupation duty in Laos from the PRC.

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During November, only two more battles involving Polish troops had occurred in Sinkiang (others of course had occurred between Allied and Communist forces), also allowing some more assessments of the impact of PAF air support. By this time, the Poles had pulled back their single division from northern Jiuquan. In southern-eastern Haixi, the Polish divisions there had also been withdrawn, but had helped to brush off two attacks on 4 and 19 November.

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The rest of the Polish 4th Army was reconstituting itself, readying for a possible new southern offensive if the new supply hub and rail upgrades were able to improve the supply situation in the south.

In Indochina, Allied reinforcements had allowed recent Communist breakthroughs to be halted and pushed back a little in places. A broad counter-offensive seemed to have been started, though was facing tough going between the Mekong River and the sea to the east. But for now, the earlier emergency seemed to have been dealt with.

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Sulawesi still seemed to be in stalemate, though the Allies still had ambitions to strike south again.

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In the Western Pacific, Britain’s island-hopping campaign had progressed against Kwantung, with a strong amphibious attack having been launched against Iwo Jima. And there were even more British divisions in the theatre by that time (over 50, plus 8 French). Contingency plans were still in place for more landings in Okinawa and Communist Japan itself, as before.

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Other than the continuing AT shortage, Polish equipment stockpiles remained in good shape, despite additional heavy tank and artillery units being added to standard and ‘heavy’ infantry divisions in early September and the continuing production of new militia, infantry and armoured divisions and a rolling basis. The Polish army now fielded 80 divisions in its army, still just 14 of those in China.

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The supply situation in Sinkiang remained good away from the over-crowded front line, with more Polish construction projects trying to improve it further, especially in the south.

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Over the past three months, three research projects had been completed, with new work beginning in construction techniques (given the current heavy emphasis on the Far East), artillery and most recently the 1944-model PZL.62 fighter.

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[though I couldn’t work out whether they apply to the aircraft based there, or to aircraft operating in the air sector and you have to add more for those operating from there in other sectors – such as Qinghai or Western China, for example].
Didn't know this off the top of my head, so looked it up on the wiki. It just says it gives a bonus within the region (doesn't specify if the planes have to be based there or not).

Guess you'll just have to wing it! ;)
Of much interest [@El Pip, @jak7139, me, et al] was an explanation of the seemingly incongruous British Army build up in the small islands of the Western Pacific. The main bases were now Marcus Island and Saipan, which between them housed over 40 Allied divisions. They had plans for invasions of Kwantung-held Iwo Jima and Okinawa and a bold plan for an invasion of southern Japan!
Glad to have helped!

A very ambitious play by the AI. But maybe all of Japan's units are stuck in China/Sulawesi so the Allies can land unopposed.
With fighter range an issue and heavy fighter research so far non-existent in Poland, the PAF started looking at options for getting greater range for fighter escort and interception in the greater distances of the Far East. An extended range modification for the current PZL.56 Kania fighters would give then an extra 100km.
You can also create variants of currently researched equipment to increase range, attack, speed, etc. It costs a lot of exp. though depending on how many changes you make.

To do it, click on your equipment in the production screen (planes, in this case). You should see a light yellow/whiteish button that looks like a crossed wrench next to all of your researched equipment. Then, depending on your DLC, you should see one of two screens after you click on the wrench:

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In an anno8uncement whose immediate significance (if any) was not entirely clear, Chairman Mao declared a ‘One China Policy’ on 14 November.
I think it has something to do with Taiwan. Maybe Japan/China will have a falling out.
n the Western Pacific, Britain’s island-hopping campaign had progressed against Kwantung, with a strong amphibious attack having been launched against Iwo Jima. And there were even more British divisions in the theatre by that time (over 50, plus 8 French). Contingency plans were still in place for more landings in Okinawa and Communist Japan itself, as before.
If this plan works, China could be invaded on the coast with Japan out of the way. Right now it seems like the Allies will win this eventually. But how long that will take is the question.
 
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You can also create variants of currently researched equipment to increase range, attack, speed, etc. It costs a lot of exp. though depending on how many changes you make.
I had a quick newb question on this that wasn’t obvious from the wikis I could find: let’s say I upgrade the range for my current fighter models, does that start to retrofit the existing aircraft (ie say give the drop tanks for extended range, in this example) at some production/XP cost? Or would it only apply to new planes made from that point, leaving all the old ones at the shorter range?
 
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I had a quick newb question on this that wasn’t obvious from the wikis I could find: let’s say I upgrade the range for my current fighter models, does that start to retrofit the existing aircraft (ie say give the drop tanks for extended range, in this example) at some production/XP cost? Or would it only apply to new planes made from that point, leaving all the old ones at the shorter range?

It's much better than that.

It creates a new sub type of the plane, which you would then have to build. But you can also keep building the old designs (which are obviously cheaper resource wise and faster to build cos you are already up to speed on them).

Means you can build either an entire new force of improved airplanes or build a special wing with upgraded kites, to use for special situations.

Such as extremely long range bombers for the Pacific theatre, or obliterating the UK from the continent.
 
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It's much better than that.

It creates a new sub type of the plane, which you would then have to build. But you can also keep building the old designs (which are obviously cheaper resource wise and faster to build cos you are already up to speed on them).

Means you can build either an entire new force of improved airplanes or build a special wing with upgraded kites, to use for special situations.

Such as extremely long range bombers for the Pacific theatre, or obliterating the UK from the continent.
OK, but to confirm I've understood that right ... I can't upgrade the old planes now deployed: they will stay at the shorter range, and only new planes of the new variant (when that's specifically selected for production) will be built thereafter? The old ones are permanently stuck at the shorter range?
 
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OK, but to confirm I've understood that right ... I can't upgrade the old planes now deployed: they will stay at the shorter range, and only new planes of the new variant (when that's specifically selected for production) will be built thereafter? The old ones are permanently stuck at the shorter range?

Yes. You'd have to replace them manually or let attrition do it, if you only constructed new kites.

Sorta makes sense. Might as well either keep the old ones in use or sell them, rather than going through the hassel of recalling them, stripping them down, rebuilding them and sending them out again.

For the most part, I don't bother with speccing my planes out. They get replaced with new tech ever other year, so it's not really work the exp or hassle unless I'm immediate upgrading the newly unlocked design, or I've reached the end of the tech tree anyway.

Tanks and guns on the other hand get new tech much less frequently, and it's worth making a few variants or improvements if your industry can take that kind of strain.

Poland shouldn't really bother. You do not have the industry to do multiple tank or plan designs.
 
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For the most part, I don't bother with speccing my planes out. They get replaced with new tech ever other year, so it's not really work the exp or hassle unless I'm immediate upgrading the newly unlocked design, or I've reached the end of the tech tree anyway.
Thanks for confirming. With a new fighter design already being researched, I was going to hold off, wait for that, perhaps apply any mods to the design before any new production begins. An extended range pack, and maybe a bit of improved reliability, might be useful, as that is the final design of the piston-engine fighters and we've not contemplated researching jet engines yet. Alternatively, or additionally, I suppose I could also look to start research on heavy fighters at some point, for escort and bomber interception down the track.
 
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I had a quick newb question on this that wasn’t obvious from the wikis I could find: let’s say I upgrade the range for my current fighter models, does that start to retrofit the existing aircraft (ie say give the drop tanks for extended range, in this example) at some production/XP cost? Or would it only apply to new planes made from that point, leaving all the old ones at the shorter range?
OK, but to confirm I've understood that right ... I can't upgrade the old planes now deployed: they will stay at the shorter range, and only new planes of the new variant (when that's specifically selected for production) will be built thereafter? The old ones are permanently stuck at the shorter range?
For the most part, I don't bother with speccing my planes out. They get replaced with new tech ever other year, so it's not really work the exp or hassle unless I'm immediate upgrading the newly unlocked design, or I've reached the end of the tech tree anyway.
Yes to everything TBC has said. Creating a variant costs extra to produce (because it is an upgrade from the base design) and also costs a lot of XP. Really only worth doing if there are multi-year gaps between models, you don't plan on researching the new models as soon as they are available, or you just have tons of XP lying around.

There is a way to convert equipment, but I'm 90% sure that is just for different captured/leased models (Polish, German, French, etc.) and not for slight variations in equipment.
 
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Basically, it's for role-playing, for super large guest powers who need a European and Pacific theatre version of things, and for those who've reached the end of the tech tree.

And for super slow to research equipment, so bascially just tanks and guns at this point in game development.
 
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