Possible connection between win2000 not booting and EU2?

[AndrewT]

It can be edgy though

 

[Castellon]

But let's get back on topic.

 

[ForzaA]

But let's get back on topic.

Well, it looks like the problem will be solved/circumvented by installing winXP instead of win2k...
And I'm not particularly keen on reinstalling win2k (or having it reinstalled) to determine the exact problem

 

[Castellon]

Okay sounds good.

 

[ForzaA]

yet another update

winXP did not solve the problem....

The question remains, what causes the crash.. according to them, all hardware is fine..

 

[jpd]

Have you tried my suggestion about not installing EU2 after a reinstall of the OS?

If the EU2 directory tree is intact after an OS reinstall, it is not necessary to reinstall EU2. Just double click on the EU2.EXE, and it should fire up. What you do lose is EU2's knowledge about being installed, which can cause troubles if (and when) a new official patch arrives.

Jan Peter

 

[ForzaA]

Have you tried my suggestion about not installing EU2 after a reinstall of the OS?

If the EU2 directory tree is intact after an OS reinstall, it is not necessary to reinstall EU2. Just double click on the EU2.EXE, and it should fire up. What you do lose is EU2's knowledge about being installed, which can cause troubles if (and when) a new official patch arrives.

Jan Peter

untill now, the HD needed to be formatted (or they did, anyway) so no directory structure available. I could, when I get my PC back after they've convinced themselves that the PC is in top shape copy the directory structure from another PC, but it might not help as they currently have EU2 and installed it.. but we'll see what happens.

what complicates the problem, and makes it somewhat unlikely that the OLE automation DLL's are the cause is that it is not (or wasn't this time) the reboot after EU2 is installed that goes wrong

@Devil: helpfull

 

[jpd]

untill now, the HD needed to be formatted (or they did, anyway) so no directory structure available.

And that is why I always create multiple partitions. I can format my C: drives (indeed: plural ) without losing any installed stuff like games. This trick only fails with Microsoft software (games or otherwise), as they are programmed to check their registry keys upon startup. Very, very user unfriendly, especially in combination with their installation software, that refuses to reinstall in the same directory tree. I must first manually delete a couple of gigabyte of information, before I can reinstall Microsoft sorfware after an OS reinstall.

Guess why I like games from non-Microsoft publishers, and utterly dislike Microsoft games

Jan Peter

 

[ForzaA]

the shop test-ran for 3 days.. lets see what happens when I fire it up at home

is it possible to make partitions AFTER installing windows etc. without losing information?

 

[AndrewT]

is it possible to make partitions AFTER installing windows etc. without losing information?

Not easily, as Win by default makes the whole drive C:. You set up D: and any other partitions at install time. There are apps such as Partition Magic to alter them after installation but they cost real money.

 

[ForzaA]

yet another update- computer crashed for the umpteenth time (they installed the game this time...) Have now NOT installed it, lets see if it lives past 1 week

 

[Castellon]

You may have a lemon there.

 

[ForzaA]

You may have a lemon there.

no doubt some expression.. but what does it mean?

 

[AndrewT]

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=lemon&x=0&y=0 :

2 : one (as an automobile) that is unsatisfactory or defective

 

[Castellon]

Basically a lemon is a device that no matter what you do to it it will never work right.

They used to say you did not want a car made on a Monday or a Friday because they were more likely to be a lemon, ie you keep taking the car back to the dealer but it never does run correctly.

 

[ForzaA]

update: deinstalling (and thus not playing) EU2 *seems* to have solved the problem- no problem in over a week now... if it keeps working for another week I think I'll try the "copy EU2 from other PC" to determine whether it's the actual install or the playing that causes the problem.

 

[jpd]

Basically a lemon is a device that no matter what you do to it it will never work right.

They used to say you did not want a car made on a Monday or a Friday because they were more likely to be a lemon, ie you keep taking the car back to the dealer but it never does run correctly.

In other words, an Alfa Romeo

update: deinstalling (and thus not playing) EU2 *seems* to have solved the problem- no problem in over a week now... if it keeps working for another week I think I'll try the "copy EU2 from other PC" to determine whether it's the actual install or the playing that causes the problem..

Did you play any other DirectX games, or was it just regular stuff (like Word) that you used until now? In other words, should we be hunting the elusive problem inside DirectX or the EU2 installation.

Jan Peter

 

[Castellon]

In other words, an Alfa Romeo

I drive a little roadster now.
Mine is no alfa lemon though.

 

[unmerged(32543)]

I have a similar problem as the one described by ForzaA.

I'm trying to run EU2 on a Windows ME based system, but my computer breaks down after installation. Afterwards I get a "Windows-protection failure" after booting. In my case their is no doubt that the problem is caused by EU2, since my system has been doing fine for a couple of years.

By the way: No problems discovered in dxdiag and no problems after running a couple of harddisk tests.

Since I have two partitions I might try the above mentioned strategy. But it really is a lot of work to reinstall an OS.

 

[Castellon]

I really cannot see that, I used EU2 & ME combination for a long time without any trouble.

So you are saying that your system is running fine, then one day you boot your system and install EU2, you then reboot and your system will not boot and just gives you an error. And you never even ran the game.