I don't know how but when I load any of the saves of my Palmyra game, Karin becomes Terra Incognita Serica, and this change persists if I go back to the start screen and choose a new game. I have to exit the game to reset it.
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It added a new province and the save game has one fewer. Some localizations might also be mixed up. It's just a save incompatibility.
Any particular reason Seleukeia (in Isauria) is a one county duchy? I don't think it used to be, on the old map.
It didn't; d_seleucia was a new addition, but d_armenia_minor used to have the name "Seleukia" before I changed it to Kilikia to make it more accurate.
Laodikeia/Thrakesion is another single county duchy in Asia Minor. Is it your intention to leave these single county duchies as they are?
For info I am working on fixing the Central Asian map, as presented in earlier posts of this thread and as discussed with FG. I will present more details shortly. I notify this here mainly to avoid duplication, if ever anyone else was considering taking care of this.
As a side note, I will postpone work on religious descriptions for the time necessary for the Central Asia map fixes, which are required for the release, while descriptions are not.
As a side note, I will postpone work on religious descriptions for the time necessary for the Central Asia map fixes, which are required for the release, while descriptions are not.
First PROV426 should probably be PROV413 (Yatvyagi) and I have made that change.
However, while history/provinces has the title as Yatvyagi, definition.csv has it as Gardinas.
First PROV428 should probably be PROV427.
Code:
427;0;27;145;Wrotizlava;x
428;42;30;18;Cladzco;x
Code:
PROV427;Wrotizlava;;;;;;;;;;;;;x#Changed to PROV427 from PROV428
PROV428;Cladzco;;;;;;;;;;;;;xSecond PROV917 should probably be PROV971 (Hadrumetum). 971 in history/provinces is Mahdia.
I have made the changes in localization, but the province history needs to be fixed.
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Code:
c_corsica = {
color = { 226 248 251 }
b_bastia = {}
b_corte = {}
b_aleria = {}
b_alando = {}
b_morosaglia = {}
b_luri = {}
b_algajola = {}
}
Code:
# 324 - Corsica
# County Title
title = c_corsica
# Settlements
max_settlements = 4
b_ajaccio = castle
b_bastia = city
b_bonifacio = temple
#b_portevecchio = castle
#b_filitosa = castle
#b_corte = castle
#b_sartene = castle
#b_aleria = castle
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c_torres = {
color = { 150 175 200 }
b_sassari = {}
b_portotorres = {}
b_ottana = {}
b_oschiri = {}
b_bosa = {}
b_alghero = {}
b_valledoria = {}
}
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# 1925 - Torres
# County Title
title = c_torres
# Settlements
max_settlements = 4
b_portotorres = castle
b_sassari = city
b_ardara = temple
#b_ottana = castle
#b_oschiri = temple
#b_bosa = castle
#b_alghero = city
#b_valledoria = cityAs promised for the "beginning of the week" 
Here is a proposed revision of the de jure set-up for "Central Asia 1.0", together with a few name corrections. The blueprint is posted below or accessible as an excel file for easier handling at this link.
The main principles guiding this revision are:
- fixing inaccuracies;
- reflecting well pre-Islamic geography;
- reflecting well cultural boundaries between the Persian, the Turkic and the Indian worlds;
- balancing sizes of de jure duchies and kingdoms.
I cannot provide a full list of rationale for every change, but they are well researched and I am happy to provide more background on specific changes at request.
Still, there may be (will be certainly) glitches so feedback is much appreciated.
The next step for blueprint work is to make one revision on the start up realms and rulers, that can be described in the following guideline:
- Serindia and the Sogdian (formerly, Tocharian) culture should not extend in the steppes North of Ferghana (the current capital of "Alexandria Ferghana", renamed Taraz, should be the northernmost settlement of the Sogdian/Serindian world, and one located at its periphery)
- The Serindian Empire realm of game start up with Sogdian rulers should be relocated to the Ferghana Valley, with its capital at Panchekanth;
- The empty land made vacant by this relocation should be filled by a non-Turkic steppe culture: the rump state of the titular Hephtalite Empire now located around Kophes or a rump Scythian (Saka) realm (to be determined)
Now I welcome help in implementing these revisions and developing the fix described above, otherwise I'll continue work at my own limited but steady pace.
Here is a proposed revision of the de jure set-up for "Central Asia 1.0", together with a few name corrections. The blueprint is posted below or accessible as an excel file for easier handling at this link.
The main principles guiding this revision are:
- fixing inaccuracies;
- reflecting well pre-Islamic geography;
- reflecting well cultural boundaries between the Persian, the Turkic and the Indian worlds;
- balancing sizes of de jure duchies and kingdoms.
I cannot provide a full list of rationale for every change, but they are well researched and I am happy to provide more background on specific changes at request.
Still, there may be (will be certainly) glitches so feedback is much appreciated.
The next step for blueprint work is to make one revision on the start up realms and rulers, that can be described in the following guideline:
- Serindia and the Sogdian (formerly, Tocharian) culture should not extend in the steppes North of Ferghana (the current capital of "Alexandria Ferghana", renamed Taraz, should be the northernmost settlement of the Sogdian/Serindian world, and one located at its periphery)
- The Serindian Empire realm of game start up with Sogdian rulers should be relocated to the Ferghana Valley, with its capital at Panchekanth;
- The empty land made vacant by this relocation should be filled by a non-Turkic steppe culture: the rump state of the titular Hephtalite Empire now located around Kophes or a rump Scythian (Saka) realm (to be determined)
Now I welcome help in implementing these revisions and developing the fix described above, otherwise I'll continue work at my own limited but steady pace.
Localization changes made except for adjective forms and the culture. I can't find a trace of Tokharos in the cultures file or in localization in current SVN.
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De jure County Balkhash 1425 Balkash Sogdiana Serindia Balkhash Balkash Djeti Su Türkia
Code:
sea_zones = { 1422 1432 } #44 Central Asian/Tibetan lakesWhich duchy/kingdom/empire does Qyzylqum belong in?
Code:
De jure County Qyzylqum 644 c_urgench Khiva Bactria Serindia Qyzylqum Xvairizem Khwarazmshahiyan Serindia
De jure County Qyzylqum 644 Khiva Bactria Serindia Qyzylqum Aral Sakastan TürkiaAll localization done.
Is Pârsa supposed to be k_persia (currently Aryana)? (It would have helped if localization changes and new titles for higher tiers had been listed as well.)
Was there supposed to be a de jure change for these two?
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Hagmatana 675 c_hamadan Hagmatana Media Eranshahr Hagmatana Hagmatana Media Eranshahr
Kum 665 c_qom Hagmatana Media Eranshahr Kum Hagmatana Media EranshahrSabzawaran (c_charolais, PROV657) needs new barony names. The current ones are French (e.g., Mont-St Vincent), and don't fit the area.
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As promised for the "beginning of the week"
Here is a proposed revision of the de jure set-up for "Central Asia 1.0", together with a few name corrections. The blueprint is posted below or accessible as an excel file for easier handling at this link.
The main principles guiding this revision are:
- fixing inaccuracies;
- reflecting well pre-Islamic geography;
- reflecting well cultural boundaries between the Persian, the Turkic and the Indian worlds;
- balancing sizes of de jure duchies and kingdoms.
I cannot provide a full list of rationale for every change, but they are well researched and I am happy to provide more background on specific changes at request.
Still, there may be (will be certainly) glitches so feedback is much appreciated.
The next step for blueprint work is to make one revision on the start up realms and rulers, that can be described in the following guideline:
- Serindia and the Sogdian (formerly, Tocharian) culture should not extend in the steppes North of Ferghana (the current capital of "Alexandria Ferghana", renamed Taraz, should be the northernmost settlement of the Sogdian/Serindian world, and one located at its periphery)
- The Serindian Empire realm of game start up with Sogdian rulers should be relocated to the Ferghana Valley, with its capital at Panchekanth;
- The empty land made vacant by this relocation should be filled by a non-Turkic steppe culture: the rump state of the titular Hephtalite Empire now located around Kophes or a rump Scythian (Saka) realm (to be determined)
Now I welcome help in implementing these revisions and developing the fix described above, otherwise I'll continue work at my own limited but steady pace.
By the way, we should make sure that Hellenistic, Sogdian names and the like, the Exonyms, are well placed again. I began a list of exonyms some time ago and I guess now it would need revision with these changes. It's easier to do it while you're tweaking the code than to do it all at once afterwards.
@ Cesar: well, fuly agree - time for constructive contributions
OK time for after sales service
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Good question. Culturally, probably more to Aral and the Turkic world. But it is below the Syr Darya so geographically, it belongs more to Xvairizem as a frontier province of sort. So I would opt for the later.
Xvairizem / Khwarazmshahiyan / Serindia
Once we do a more serious overhaul, this province should get tribal or pretty much desert anyway.
You may have 2 things in mind:
- If you mean the extra 'virgin' barony holdings, I am aware and that is for 2.0, it was difficult enough to come up with these 3 holding names and we have more higher priorities...
- But if you don't have the names I told you even for the three initial baronies, then probably my edits were erased by a recent upload in the SVN and I will need to have a look in order to restore my hard work on countless holding names...
OK time for after sales service
Well, yesProvince 1425 is a lakeCode:De jure County Balkhash 1425 Balkash Sogdiana Serindia Balkhash Balkash Djeti Su Türkia
oHehe... a twin province.
Good question. Culturally, probably more to Aral and the Turkic world. But it is below the Syr Darya so geographically, it belongs more to Xvairizem as a frontier province of sort. So I would opt for the later.
Xvairizem / Khwarazmshahiyan / Serindia
Once we do a more serious overhaul, this province should get tribal or pretty much desert anyway.
Yes. In this area, it is normal that the same name is applied to different levels. In Persian, Parsa applies to Persepolis as well as to the region, and ginally to the country of Kings.
Hum I thought of doing it. I can still do it, stay tuned.
Do you think we should change it? I checked and found the current set up the optimal one, but I am open to suggestions. Hagmatana was indeed a province name (not a Satrapy, granted) and an important city in Sassanid time. The region is clearly in Media. So I am comfortable with this one.
Strange. I did a big overhaul of Persian holdings already, and in my version of the SVN, not uploaded for a while (2-3 weeks maybe), the holdings correctly reflect my edits. The barony holdings are called respectively Sabzawaran, Jiroft and Kahnuj.
You may have 2 things in mind:
- If you mean the extra 'virgin' barony holdings, I am aware and that is for 2.0, it was difficult enough to come up with these 3 holding names and we have more higher priorities...
- But if you don't have the names I told you even for the three initial baronies, then probably my edits were erased by a recent upload in the SVN
and I will need to have a look in order to restore my hard work on countless holding names...
Just thought it strange you had those two listed with no changes at all, either localization or de jure.
I uploaded the completed Central Asia 1.0 edits with it in Serindia, so all is done but the barony edits.
Oops, missed a few localizations and somehow got some duplicated titles. Will fix soon.
There are also new flags needed:
Missing localizations and duplicate titles corrected. There might be a few other flags needed, where I just changed localization on some duchy titles rather than giving them new tags.
There are also new flags needed:
Missing localizations and duplicate titles corrected. There might be a few other flags needed, where I just changed localization on some duchy titles rather than giving them new tags.
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Waou great!
Small glitches:
- Kârmânia should be in K-Pârsa, not Media
- The Kinfdom for Persia should be Pârsa, not Aryana
- Khorasan appears as "K-Khorasan"
- Chach appears as D-Chach; idem for Almatu
So now that I can see the de jure map some things strike me that I could not see in an excel spreadsheet. In particular, Baktria is too big. I suggest: Margiana (D) -> Khorasan (K). Beside this, we can live with a large de jure Baktria I guess, most of is large desert provinces anyway so it is largely a visual thing (still too many holdings but that's to be tweaked later).
There is a problem around the Ouroumieh Lake. To Fix it, and this makes sense lore-wise, let's inegrate the Duchy Kurdistan into Media.
Finally I made a typo on Kuhandiz, it should belong to the Duchy of Badashan (modern Badakhshan, the same Badakhshani culture on both sides of the Amu Darya making the Tajik - Afghan border nowadays, a very distinct region with its own culture dating from millenia, and the same geological features)
What is the implication of missing flags? Only cosmetics right?
Small glitches:
- Kârmânia should be in K-Pârsa, not Media
- The Kinfdom for Persia should be Pârsa, not Aryana
- Khorasan appears as "K-Khorasan"
- Chach appears as D-Chach; idem for Almatu
So now that I can see the de jure map some things strike me that I could not see in an excel spreadsheet. In particular, Baktria is too big. I suggest: Margiana (D) -> Khorasan (K). Beside this, we can live with a large de jure Baktria I guess, most of is large desert provinces anyway so it is largely a visual thing (still too many holdings but that's to be tweaked later).
There is a problem around the Ouroumieh Lake. To Fix it, and this makes sense lore-wise, let's inegrate the Duchy Kurdistan into Media.
Finally I made a typo on Kuhandiz, it should belong to the Duchy of Badashan (modern Badakhshan, the same Badakhshani culture on both sides of the Amu Darya making the Tajik - Afghan border nowadays, a very distinct region with its own culture dating from millenia, and the same geological features)
What is the implication of missing flags? Only cosmetics right?
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Fixed all noted problems. Yes, missing flags just affects cosmetics... flags get assigned to the wrong polities starting with the first title with a missing flag, and some end up with black flags.