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i believe that is a bug though...i beleive it was for countries bigger than 30 because while a few small countries did produce grand palaces and whatnot, they were far less likely and are better represented by historic events....

of course i could just drop that logic to, and go with making them like you originally thought they should be.
 
Sorry, I havent had time to read through the whole thread, but I hope its relavant anyway....

I would just like to say that I think all random evens which increase/decrease revolt risk or monarch stats should be limited to +/-1 due to stacking concerns! (and thus mostly add a bit of flavour!) - Instead the real effect of the events should be converted to "nstant effects",to avoid these stacking issues. Basically the major events only stack if its intentional, and I just find it extremely annoying if your "scandal at the court" ends up giving you -3 DIP for 10+ years! (same goes the other way around ofcause, although I tend not to bee too annoyed by that when Im playing ;) )

ADM modiers could be translated into:
- investment in trade & infrastructure, gain merchants + perhaps a random +(-)1 tax change.
MIL:
- investment in land/naval +(for positive options!!) perhaps a duplicate b) option which also give +(-)1 quality or shock.
DIP:
- number of random relation changes, gain diplomats + perhaps a -(+)1 BB

likewise RR modifiers should IMO simply be translated into a number of instant revolts, stability hits/boosts, dessertions, ducats gained/lost, etc...

Basically I feel that the stacking effects should primarily be reserved for the MAJOR events....where stacking will only occur intentially. the REs should only use the stacking effects as minor flavour in addition to the real effects!

what do u think?
 
Check the bottom of the first page for the discussion on monarchs. If Zander is changing all of the historical ministers and other historical events that change monarch stats, then there is no need to worry about the random events.

I think for insane monarch and such your approach is a sensible one, although many of the effects need to be scaled up by country size. Nothing can replace the loss of morale of a -3 MIL. However, I don't think this is a major loss, and the stack up is a royal pain in the butt.

I feel differently about the revoltrisk stack-up. The revolt risk simply cannot be replaced by other effects. Stab hits are almost painless for small countries, while revolt risk is very serious when you are small. Revolt risk is a huge problem for low stab countries and much less so for high stab countries. It affects recruiting differently. Insant revolts must be scaled very carefully with country size.

I think that the revolt risk is a very useful tool and I hate to abandon it. What I would suggest (again) is that events that cause revolt risk (and some positive events too, to be balanced) be triggered on "NOT="histrev" or something like that. Then for at least the most important historical events we can set this flag and turn off the random events, so that the stack up goes away. I'd also suggest that all random events that have revolt risk limit it to 12 months. The level of revolt can be jacked up to compensate. This will reduce the chances of stack up. Not a perfect solution, but an improvement.
 
Isaac Brock said:
Check the bottom of the first page for the discussion on monarchs.
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Did you mean ironfounderssons post? I like that change, since 110 months is a long time.

Isaac Brock said:
I think for insane monarch and such your approach is a sensible one, although many of the effects need to be scaled up by country size. Nothing can replace the loss of morale of a -3 MIL. However, I don't think this is a major loss, and the stack up is a royal pain in the butt.
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There is a display bug when you change ADM by one, cannot remember more right now. Might be for the others as well, DIP and MIL, and I don't remember if it was both for +1 and -1, you'll have to test, or find the bug report or some old EEP bug list, it was taken care of.

Isaac Brock said:
I think that the revolt risk is a very useful tool and I hate to abandon it. What I would suggest (again) is that events that cause revolt risk (and some positive events too, to be balanced) be triggered on "NOT="histrev" or something like that. Then for at least the most important historical events we can set this flag and turn off the random events, so that the stack up goes away. I'd also suggest that all random events that have revolt risk limit it to 12 months. The level of revolt can be jacked up to compensate. This will reduce the chances of stack up. Not a perfect solution, but an improvement.
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Good idea with that flag for the more serious RR events.
 
Isaac Brock said:
Check the bottom of the first page for the discussion on monarchs. If Zander is changing all of the historical ministers and other historical events that change monarch stats, then there is no need to worry about the random events.
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I did start on this, but put it on hold while I wait to see what's up with the numbering scheme on monarchs, etc. (Partly because I was running into monarch numbers that are already used in multiple files.)
 
Sounds like a royal mess!
 
As it stands, here will be the new random event setup
Code: 
# Ids assigned are
#
# ID             Category             Example  Comment
#--------------------------------------------------------------------------
# 91000+offset   countrysize   1 -    91001    Minors
# 92000+offset   countrysize   4 -    92001    Big minors
# 93000+offset   countrysize   9 -    93001    Majors
# 94000+offset   countrysize  30 -    94001    Big majors/colonial powers
# 95000+offset   countrysize  80 -    95001    Superpowers
# 96000+offset   countrysize 200 -    96001    Continent-spanning empires
# 97000+offset   regionalized	   -    97001    Non-staggered regionalized events
# 98000+offset   general	   -    98001    Non-staggered/non-regionalized events
# 99000+offset   provincial	   -    99001    Province-based random events
#
#
# Offset         Event set
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------
#   0 - 899      Unreserved
# 900 - 999      AI events
I dropped the reserved 0-199 paradox event because of the nature of the changes would result in more confusion than anyone other than myself would have a hard time figureing out.

Also all events that aren't tied to stagging will be moved into one of the other 3 categories.
 
Isaac Brock said:
I think that the revolt risk is a very useful tool and I hate to abandon it. What I would suggest (again) is that events that cause revolt risk (and some positive events too, to be balanced) be triggered on "NOT="histrev" or something like that. Then for at least the most important historical events we can set this flag and turn off the random events, so that the stack up goes away. I'd also suggest that all random events that have revolt risk limit it to 12 months. The level of revolt can be jacked up to compensate. This will reduce the chances of stack up. Not a perfect solution, but an improvement.
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Personally i think it would be best if johan would go in and take the time to have the savefiles remember when each revoltrisk happened, how much and when its suppose to end, but i know he won't.
 
Code: 
# Ids assigned are
#
# ID             Category             Example  Comment
#--------------------------------------------------------------------------
# 90000+offset   countrysize   1 -    90001    Minors
# 91000+offset   countrysize   4 -    91001    Big minors
# 92000+offset   countrysize   9 -    92001    Majors
# 93000+offset   countrysize  30 -    93001    Big majors/colonial powers
# 94000+offset   countrysize  80 -    94001    Superpowers
# 95000+offset   countrysize 200 -    95001    Continent-spanning empires
# 96000+offset   regionalized    -    96001    Non-staggered regionalized events
# 97000+offset   country specifc -    97001    Non-staggered country specific events
# 98000+offset   general         -    98001    Non-staggered/non-regionalized events
# 99000+offset   provincial      -    99001    Province-based random events
#
#
# Offset         Event set
#-------------------------------------------------------------------------
#   0 - 899      Unreserved
# 900 - 999      AI events
Ok this should be the entire range.

Anyone who has random country-specific events that aren't very time specific (ie better used with random = ## ) please let me know...i want to move all of them here.
 
The two Innovativeness caused Hyperinflation events need to be toned down a lot. 15% (25% at inno 10!) extra inflation for having innovativeness at 5 is totally unbalancing. 5% (10% for inno = 10) would be much better.

BTW I don't really understand why a very small increase (50/100) for all techs is included, at size > 30 this is totally irrelevant.
 
Ids i've changed to 900 000 - 989 000
merged 96x and 97x
added a reserve for human only events

Events that will definatly be changed/added/deleted in next version:
No more hyperinflation caused by innovativeness
No more monarch or minister events (all are removed, even paradox's)
Some of the ones listed in this thread will be added
Deflation event is no longer scaled.
 
Norrefeldt said:
IMHO the event "Megalomanical monarch" have too much effect. I think it's a Peter Ebbesen event. The A option gives centralisation +2. :eek: :wacko: I dare say that no random event should alter DP:s more than one step.
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Maybe you're right. But I don't think that anyone regrets when this event happens...
 
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