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I wasn't counting colonial charters, but Delaware I didn't know about. Yes, the first screen is the current one, but as you pointed out it has links to the originals. iirc most of the changes are cosmetic or clarifications, and the major outline of things is the same.
I didn't realize the events of the Vermont rebellion and Heyward's current predicament were so close together in time! He's made a pretty swift recovery, considering he had to physically recover from losing his arm AND had to learn how to function in everyday life with just one arm.
Nice exchange between Harding and Stark: the indignation on both sides is very vivid and I can't blame either man.
Now we know how Andre was ferreted out. Let's hope he'll play ball and cooperate easily.
Nice exchange between Harding and Stark: the indignation on both sides is very vivid and I can't blame either man.
Now we know how Andre was ferreted out. Let's hope he'll play ball and cooperate easily.
I must admit, I was a bit confused at first. But you brought it all back together in the end. And not only has Harding moved swiftly back into the life, so too has Heyward as he seems to have found a crew to assist in his efforts.
CatKnight: ...Archaalen: ..The Constitution you shared with us is the modern one...
Archaalen: I wasn't counting colonial charters, but Delaware I didn't know about...
are you aware of the Iroquois (Five, later Six, Nations) Constitution? it dates back to about 500 years before our Constitution and contains many elements of our Constitution. elements, no doubt, that are in the Vermont Constitution as well...
sorry that i don't have a handy link to it. i could not find it on this computer, so that means it is on another computer. and, at the moment, my back is out so i just don't feel like looking for the link.
CatKnight: ..."Good!" He sat next to Andre companionably. "Then we can discuss tactics!"
like do you really need a hook? ? actually, the only problem i have with a hook is if it is more than a week until the next update.
oh, and i agree with Fulcrumvale, Now that's a talk I don't want to miss. ! !
magnificent update! !
Archaalen: I wasn't counting colonial charters, but Delaware I didn't know about...
are you aware of the Iroquois (Five, later Six, Nations) Constitution? it dates back to about 500 years before our Constitution and contains many elements of our Constitution. elements, no doubt, that are in the Vermont Constitution as well...
sorry that i don't have a handy link to it. i could not find it on this computer, so that means it is on another computer. and, at the moment, my back is out so i just don't feel like looking for the link.
CatKnight: ..."Good!" He sat next to Andre companionably. "Then we can discuss tactics!"
like do you really need a hook? ?
actually, the only problem i have with a hook is if it is more than a week until the next update. oh, and i agree with Fulcrumvale, Now that's a talk I don't want to miss. ! !
magnificent update! !
I knew the Iroquois had come up with the original concept of having a Constitution yes. Was theirs written down that long ago, or was it orally transmitted? I've never known if the Iroquois had a written language predating Columbus, and I'd be interested to know.
I've just nominated you for the Best Character Writer of the Week award for your work in this AAR. Congrats!
GhostWriter said:are you aware of the Iroquois (Five, later Six, Nations) Constitution? it dates back to about 500 years before our Constitution and contains many elements of our Constitution. elements, no doubt, that are in the Vermont Constitution as well...
Five hundred years before the present, not before the Constitution, if I am not mistaken. I think the Iroquois confederacy only started in the 1500's or 1600s.
Various Indian groups in Mexico and Central America had developed writing, and there is argument as to whether the quipus of the Incas constitutes writing or not, but the Iroquois didn't have writing.
The game is now surely afoot. And I'm liking the fact that it's gonna be quite a ride before its all said and done. Outstanding work, Cat!
J. Passepartout: ..Five hundred years before the present, not before the Constitution, if I am not mistaken. I think the Iroquois confederacy only started in the 1500's or 1600s.
this site very strongly indicates that the Iroquois confederacy started on August 31, 1142.
however, it does not contain a 'copy' of the Iroquois Constitution, [or (if i read correctly), Gayaneshagowa.]
i have read the Iroquois Constitution, but have not been able to locate it at this time.
hope this helps.
oh, any ETA on an update? ?
this site very strongly indicates that the Iroquois confederacy started on August 31, 1142.
however, it does not contain a 'copy' of the Iroquois Constitution, [or (if i read correctly), Gayaneshagowa.]
i have read the Iroquois Constitution, but have not been able to locate it at this time.
hope this helps.
oh, any ETA on an update? ?
GhostWriter said:J. Passepartout: ..Five hundred years before the present, not before the Constitution, if I am not mistaken. I think the Iroquois confederacy only started in the 1500's or 1600s.
this site very strongly indicates that the Iroquois confederacy started on August 31, 1142.
however, it does not contain a 'copy' of the Iroquois Constitution, [or (if i read correctly), Gayaneshagowa.]
i have read the Iroquois Constitution, but have not been able to locate it at this time.
hope this helps.
oh, any ETA on an update? ?
Hmmm. Maybe you're right.
I also call for an estimate for the next update.
Regarding an update:
Soon, I hope. If you've read the SolAARium, I've asked for some help with this story and I'm taking their advice. We'll be back after these messages from our sponsors
Soon, I hope. If you've read the SolAARium, I've asked for some help with this story and I'm taking their advice. We'll be back after these messages from our sponsors
OK. and, sorry that i missed that ! !CatKnight said:Regarding an update:
Soon, I hope. If you've read the SolAARium, I've asked for some help with this story and I'm taking their advice. We'll be back after these messages from our sponsors
Would've posted sooner, but my DSL decided to take the first part of the week off. :gr: At least it gave me time to write!
Fulcrumvale: We'll start seeing what those tactics are soon.
Archaalen: True about the constitution being nearly identical to the original. I didn't realize it until I saw a line about 1916. Still, someone really has to go in there with a thesaurus and book on writing styles and fix those sentences.
Stuyvesant: That's partly my fault. I wrote the last part of Harding's adventure just after New Years - I thought more in-game time had passed. I guess he's just a rapid healer!
I did make one blunder though - I mentioned he'd have to learn how to ride a horse left handed. Of course he knows how to ride a horse left handed - he's a cavalryman. His right hand would be holding a sword.
coz1: Yep, Tom's finally found his coalition ... now whether they'll succeed could be another question!
J. Passepartout: Can't tell if you're being facetious or not: I'm a leftie myself, and if I try to write with my off hand it looks like a six year old. There's virtually no chance Harding knows how to write off hand....well into the twentieth century you were discouraged from learning even if that was your dominant hand...so no, right now Harding can't write for beans.
GhostWriter: I did find the Iroquois Constitution once - I'd printed it out along with the Articles of Confederation. The former's long gone, alas.
Archaalen: I think J.Passepartout is right about the Iroquois' literacy. Indeed, the Cherokee will only develop a written language around 1820.
Fulcrumvale: Thanks for the nomination btw!
J. Passepartout: Hmm...according to EU2 the Iroquois Confederation was founded in 1419.
Draco Rexus: Thanks!
GhostWriter: Hmm...interesting. I'd be very surprised if they had an exact date though, and 800 years is an awful long time to hold all those nations together.
Fulcrumvale: We'll start seeing what those tactics are soon.
Archaalen: True about the constitution being nearly identical to the original. I didn't realize it until I saw a line about 1916. Still, someone really has to go in there with a thesaurus and book on writing styles and fix those sentences.
Stuyvesant: That's partly my fault. I wrote the last part of Harding's adventure just after New Years - I thought more in-game time had passed. I guess he's just a rapid healer!
I did make one blunder though - I mentioned he'd have to learn how to ride a horse left handed. Of course he knows how to ride a horse left handed - he's a cavalryman. His right hand would be holding a sword.
coz1: Yep, Tom's finally found his coalition ... now whether they'll succeed could be another question!
J. Passepartout: Can't tell if you're being facetious or not: I'm a leftie myself, and if I try to write with my off hand it looks like a six year old. There's virtually no chance Harding knows how to write off hand....well into the twentieth century you were discouraged from learning even if that was your dominant hand...so no, right now Harding can't write for beans.
GhostWriter: I did find the Iroquois Constitution once - I'd printed it out along with the Articles of Confederation. The former's long gone, alas.
Archaalen: I think J.Passepartout is right about the Iroquois' literacy. Indeed, the Cherokee will only develop a written language around 1820.
Fulcrumvale: Thanks for the nomination btw!
J. Passepartout: Hmm...according to EU2 the Iroquois Confederation was founded in 1419.
Draco Rexus: Thanks!
GhostWriter: Hmm...interesting. I'd be very surprised if they had an exact date though, and 800 years is an awful long time to hold all those nations together.
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Connecticut
July 1784
Butler Tavern: The humid, still summer air, thick with tobacco and the bitter scent of alcohol, made it hard to breathe as Thomas Heyward sat at a narrow table nursing his beer. Butler Tavern catered to politicians and merchants rather than laborers: The State House was but one block away, and the tavern held some prestige for being the scene of Connecticut's earliest defiance to English rule when the colonial assembly refused to surrender their charter in 1687.
He waited here, while Philip Waymouth made his case to the Connecticut Assembly. Rhode Island's William Ellery guaranteed his state's support, he being a veteran of Edward Rutledge's intrigues. Connecticut proved a tougher nut to crack with friendliness to their Massachusetts neighbors weighed against possible consequences for rocking the boat.
Politics are not my thing, Heyward thought. Perhaps Rutledge had done him a favor all those years ago getting him out of Congress. Hard to say. He knew he had to go back though, knew that if he was to thwart the thing ruling Carolina he would need America strong ... and free. From Waymouth's explanations it sounded like they were careening towards autocracy, if not fascism. That would never do. Aside from purely idealistic motivations, an America like that wouldn't be inclined to help stop Germany...
"Evenin' mate!" A sailor who apparently didn't mind being out of place sat down across from him. Thin, forties, he smelled of the sea despite Hartford being forty miles inland.
Must have come up river, Tom realized. He lifted his gaze to the sailor, who stiffened at the look in his eyes. "I'm waiting for someone."
"'E's not here," the sailor reasoned. "And the room's right crowded." He lifted his mug in salute then drank.
Tom stared into his glass. Clearly he needed Congress then, which meant at least seven votes for a majority, eight for two-thirds. So far he had three...
"Nice night!" the sailor remarked. "Bit hot though!"
"Yes." He hoped short answers would hint he wanted to be alone. He hoped in vain.
"Cooler by the shore. You get a right sea breeze goin' there."
"I'm sure."
"'N the ladies are freer if you get m' meaning!"
Tom looked up sharply.
"What's wrong, mate? Don' be glum! Come, le's have a drink!" He reached across to hand Heyward his glass, but being slightly drunk he missed and shoved the glass on his lap. "'Oops!"
Tom stood, beer dripping from his breeches and glared. No, the sailor thought. Don't care for the bugger's eyes at all. Think I'll do something about it. Before he could reply, he felt a beefy hand on his shoulder.
"Take your drink elsewhere, son," Waymouth said.
He turned and regarded the congressman. "You're an old bugger," he observed. The next minute he found his face smashed into the bench. He squealed and tried to break free to no avail.
"I was fighting before you left your mother's teat," Waymouth growled. "Bigger men than you have tried their luck. I've fought in three wars and have more notches in my rifle than some armies. Are you sure you want to do this?"
"Leggo!" The sailor finally wrenched free. He felt his nose: His hand came away red. "Hell! You broke my nose!"
"Yes." Waymouth reached across, took the sailor's glass and drank.
"Bugger!"
He thought about it. "Probably." He finished the drink. "Leave." He watched the man scurry away, cursing.
Heyward regarded his confederate solemnly. "Remind me never to debate you."
"Bah!" Waymouth sat. "He just needed someone to remind him there's always a bigger fish. Most boys his age need to be thumped now and then for their own good."
"Like John?" Tom smiled.
He snorted. "Especially John!"
"I suppose I should thank you for keeping an eye on him all those years ago." Heyward signaled the waitress for two more beers.
Waymouth shrugged. "Do it for all my boys, General. That's what command's about where I come from."
"Is that why you took Harding in?" Heyward paused. "I apologize. I appear to have overstepped."
Waymouth forcibly unclenched his jaw. "Harding's a good boy. I like him."
"So do I, but he is..."
"A cripple?" he snapped.
"...He is not home where they can take care of him."
"Boy doesn't need taking care of. Someone who understands what he's gone through maybe. You think someone who hasn't been in a fight can help with that? You know better."
Tom nodded slowly. Certainly he'd never understood battles or warfare until he'd been in both. "Being shot at changes one's perspective amazingly."
"Aye." Waymouth took his beer from the hovering waitress and waved her off. She left, muttering to the other waitress that neither of the older gents even glanced at her. Her companion theorized they might be particular.
"How did it go?" Tom asked.
"Eh? Oh, them. They're debating now. Andre...Andrews is observing and offering advice on behalf of the great state of New Hampshire." He snorted. "Best settle in."
"You trust him?"
"Andrews? Hell no. We have his hide in a sling. He'll never forgive us for it. Still, I think telling him his friends might benefit has swung him for now. He wants to be able to go home handsomely. I can accept that. Plus, Harding's watching him."
They sat silently for some time, lost in thought. Heyward was working out what he could say in Philadelphia when Waymouth spoke again: "How is John?"
Heyward shook his head. "I don't know. I haven't talked to him in...well, it's only been a few months. It feels like years." He smiled grimly. "We argued last time. We do that often."
"You should stop."
Tom chuckled. "It's hard. I see him and my blood boils. I think he feels the same way."
"All the more reason to stop."
Heyward looked up at the sadness in his voice, reached across and gripped his wrist. This confirmed the waitresses' suspicions who pursed their lips in disapproval.
"Do you have children?" he asked quietly.
The door to the tavern slammed open and Harding strode in like he'd just won the Battle of Ticonderga by himself. He grinned at the room. Andre edged in after him, more subdued but still looking pleased. They strode over and wondered at Waymouth's hard expression.
"Good news?" Heyward asked, looking up.
"Connecticut's with us," Harding boomed, drawing several curious stares.
"Then that's four."
Four is a solid number. That's four people who can work on getting four more people. Hopefully.
Not being facetious, just assuming that Harding is right-handed. And yes, I would be unable to funtion also if my writing hand were removed.
Not being facetious, just assuming that Harding is right-handed. And yes, I would be unable to funtion also if my writing hand were removed.
I'm from Connecticut. It's good to see my home state doing somthing to support Freedom and Heyward.
CatKnight: ..."Connecticut's with us," Harding boomed. . ."Then that's four."
four down and four to go! !
awesome update! !
CatKnight: ...GhostWriter: Hmm...interesting. I'd be very surprised if they had an exact date though, and 800 years is an awful long time to hold all those nations together.
ahhh. you missed that they used a total eclipse of the sun to date it. there was only one total eclipse of the sun from 800 AD to 1800 AD that covered the capitals of both the Iroquois and the Seneca tribes under the circumstances described by the oral traditions of the "keepers". when you have the time, read that whole link. it is very informative.
and, i agree that holding those nations together for over 800 years would be no small feat ! ! however, the start of the union was a result of "look to the Sky" for conformation of "joining our Confederacy"! ! the Indians placed considerable trust in the Great Spirit ! !
four down and four to go! !
awesome update! !
CatKnight: ...GhostWriter: Hmm...interesting. I'd be very surprised if they had an exact date though, and 800 years is an awful long time to hold all those nations together.
ahhh. you missed that they used a total eclipse of the sun to date it. there was only one total eclipse of the sun from 800 AD to 1800 AD that covered the capitals of both the Iroquois and the Seneca tribes under the circumstances described by the oral traditions of the "keepers". when you have the time, read that whole link. it is very informative.
and, i agree that holding those nations together for over 800 years would be no small feat ! ! however, the start of the union was a result of "look to the Sky" for conformation of "joining our Confederacy"! !
the Indians placed considerable trust in the Great Spirit ! ! 
Wow... i've spent the last couple of days (including the last 8 hours when i should have been doing a research paper!) reading through this AAR and... CatKnight, simply breathtaking. One of the finest stories I've ever read. It's probably been said before, but I strongly urge you to consider publishing this.
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