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Originally posted by Kaigon
Yeah, I guess I'm in...

We have to decide about religions.
Major religions in the Old World from 0 AD to 500 AD:
Chrisitianity, Enlightened Paganism, Arianism, Monophysitism, Zoroastrianism, Judaisim, Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism

Christian family:
Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Reformed, (CRC)
Asian family:
Sunni, Shiite, Hinduism, Buddhism, Confucianism
Others:
Pagan

I suggest we'll leave pagan for the pagans... but what about the others?
What 0 AD religion would be best simulated in the same way as CRC is in EU2, as no provinces can be CRC-religion, only states...

What about this:
Christian family:
Catholic - Buddhism
Orthodox - Judaism
Protestant - Zoroastrianism/Mazdeism
Reformed - Hinduism
CRC - Confucianism (It might not be historical to give the Conf. a CB against Zoroastrianism/Mazdeism and Hinduism, but I could live with that)
Asian family:
Sunni, Shiite, Buddhism, Hinduism, Confucianism
Should be divided among
Chrisitianity, Enlightened Paganism, Arianism, Monophysitism,
Is there something between any of these religions that could be simulated by the Shia/Sunni CB?
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Well, i don't know.I'm not man of religion, i'm man of war:D I'm starting work on techs next week and i think we can share the jobs so that u do the maps and maybe graphics and i do OOB and tech stuff.Someone to do events?Map looks good, but i think something could be on scndinavia and russia, at least natives.

P.S:Sorry Hastu, seems i had a hole in my history knowledge.
 
Originally posted by Judas Maccabeus
The problem with using Catholic and CRC for anyone is that there's the whole "CB on anyone who owns Rome or attacks the Papal States" thing. I don't think that China or Tibet should have a CB on the Roman Empire or whomever is at war with whomever we use the PAP tag for...
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This is easily solved by putting a PAP-tag nation somewhere in the States...
 
Originally posted by UBootMan
Well, i don't know.I'm not man of religion, i'm man of war:D I'm starting work on techs next week and i think we can share the jobs so that u do the maps and maybe graphics and i do OOB and tech stuff.Someone to do events?Map looks good, but i think something could be on scndinavia and russia, at least natives.
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I have done a few hundred events... mainly the China part and some for Parthia, Armenia, Sassanid Persia, Kushana Empire, Indo-Parthia and a few indian states...
 
Originally posted by Kaigon
I have done a few hundred events... mainly the China part and some for Parthia, Armenia, Sassanid Persia, Kushana Empire, Indo-Parthia and a few indian states...
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Wow!Leave something for me too.Also, could u email me your events so i colud look onto them?
 
Originally posted by Judas Maccabeus
What tag are you using for Judea? I can get to making leader lists, monarch lists, and events for that country right away. :)
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Judea, i thought it belonged to ROme at that time.Of course i maybe wrong, if i am ,feel free to start!
 
Originally posted by Judas Maccabeus
What tag are you using for Judea? I can get to making leader lists, monarch lists, and events for that country right away. :)
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I used JER, I guess you could use it as well... TAG-changing isn't difficult if we decide to change later anyway...
 
I also have monarchs for about 60 nations (but only a few leaders). Nothing has been done on the Roman Empire.

Here are my IDs:
Code: 
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IDs
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Area:			Event IDs:	Monarchs:	Leaders:
China			100000-100099	15100-15149
Wei, Shu & Wu		100100-100199	15150-15169
China vs Sixteen	100900-100999	-----------
16 Kingdoms & Nomads	100200-100299	15200-15274
Touba-Wei		100400-100499	15170-15179
Funan			100500-100549	15400-15419

Paekche					15450-15474
Koguryo					15475-15494
Champa					15495-15414
Sri Lanka				15515-15555

Satavahana		101000-101099	16000-16019

Mathura					16040-16049

Assam					16100-16109
Saka					16110-16149
PEG-tag					16150-16159
Gupta Empire		101500-101599	16400-16409

Parthia			102000-102099	17000-17029
Indo-Parthia		102900-102999	17080-17099
Persia (Sassanids)	102100-102199	17100-17129
Kushana	Empire		102200-102299	17180-17199
Parthia Vassals		102300-102449	17200-17499

Armenia			103000-103099	18000-18049	18800-18830
---Judea		103100-103199	18050-18055
Bosporus				18055-18090
Cappadocia				18091-18096
Mauretania				18097-18099
Nabataea				18100-18106
Osrohene				18107-18129
Pontus					18130-18134
SUD-tag					18135-18150
Persis					18151-18169
Adiabene				18170-18179
Atropatene				18180-18188
Elymais					18189-18199
Jordan					18200-18224
Characene				18225-18234
Ad					18235-18239
Mecca					18240-18259
Himyar					18260-18289

Other			103200-103999

Roman Empire		104000-104499	
Western Roman Empire	104500-104599	
Eastern Roman Empire	104600-104699	
"Barbarian" States	104700-104999	

Reactional events	105000-	

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Far East		100000-100999	15000-15799	15800-15999
India			101000-101999	16000-16799	16800-16999
Parthia			102000-102999	17000-17799	17800-17999
Middle East		103000-103999	18000-18799	18800-18999
Roman			104000-104999	19000-19799	19800-19999
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As well as a tag-list... without most of the European barbarians
Code: 
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TAG	State		Startdate	Enddate
ADE	Adiabene	0		228
AFG	Abhira		249		275
ALB	Albania		226		387
AMI	Iberia		0		500
ANN	Andhra		230		475
ARM	Armenia		0		428
ASS	Assam		0		?
ATJ	Atropatene	0		226
AUV	Anuradhapura	0		500
AYU	Ay		0		300
BOH	Boiohamum	0		400
BOS	Bosporus	0		335
BRE	Cao-Wei		220		265
BRI	Shu-Han		221		263
BRZ	Wu		222		280
CHA	Champa		192		500
CHE	Cera		0		500
CHG	Huns		0		350
COL	Cola		0		350
CRE	Scythians	0		500
DAH	Dasarna		0		100
DAI	Giao Chi	0		100
DAK	Dacia		0		110
DLH	Indo-Parthia	0		45
DUL	Elymais		0		224
ENG	China		0		500
ETH	Axsum		250		500
FIN	Funan		100		500
-GEL	Cappadocia	0		-17
GEN	Ganga		250		500
GUJ	Gupta Empire	290		500
HAI	Hadramawt	0		250
HEI	Roman Empire	0		395
INC	Himyar		275		500
JER	Judea		0		93
KAL	Kalinga		0		10
KAR	Kalabhra	350		500
KAZ	Kausambi	0		100
KLE	Kadamba		210		500
KOL	Lazica		0		500
KOR	Paekche		0		500
KSH	Kushana empire	15		240
LAP	Puzhinadu	0		375
MAG	Maghada		0		0
MCH	Northern Wei	430		500
MEC	Mesene		0		224
MLC	Kosala		0		100
MLW	Malava		375		500
MOR	Mauritania	0		42
MTR	Mathura		0		70
MYA	Min Yue		0		204
NAP	Nabataea	0		106
NAV	Nala		350		500
NIP	Koguryo		0		500
ORI	Bengalstates	350		498
PEG	Pallava		250		500
PER	Persia		224		500
POL	Osrohene	0		198
POM	Pontus		0		65
PRM	Persis		0		224
PSK	Pandya		0		375
PUR	Pancala		0		100
QAR	Qataban		0		275
RAG	Rastrakuta	375		500
SAC	Saka		80		409
SAR	Satavahana	0		255
SAV	Cottii		0		20
SCO	Scordisci	0		80
STE	Sarmatae	0		?
-TEK	Lycia		0		-5
TIB	Nepal		110		500
TRI	Thrace		0		46
TUR	Parthia		0		224
U00	Tuyuhun		0		500
U01	Beiyan		409		438
U02	Xia		407		431
U03	Dai		386		430
U04	Xiliang		401		421
U05	Nanyan		400		410
U06	Beiliang	397		439
U07	Nanliang	397		414
U08	Houliang	386		403
U09	Xiqin		385		431
U10	Houqin		384		417
U11	Houyan		384		409
U12	Xiyan		384		396
U13	Qianqin		351		394
U14	Qianyan		337		370
U15	Qianshu		320		340
U16	Houzhao		319		351
U17	Chenghan	304		347
U18	Qianliang	313		376
U19	Qianzhao	304		329
UZB	White Huns	375		560
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Religion graphics for Zoroastrism
zoro.gif


Alternative resourcegraphics for Olives, Silk and Fruit
goods.gif
 
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This is Rise and Fall of Roman Empire mod.The mod begins at year 0 when Roman Empire is at peak of it's power and ends in mid 700s, when roman empire collapses.I haven't made the map yet, but i'll do it when i install 1.07.This mod is open to all EUII fans who are intrested in Roman empire and have some experience modding these type of games.
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I have a couple of suggestions:

1) since the timeline of your scenario extends to the 700's, and since Lofman has already put alot of work into his 476 scenario, maybe you guys should contact Lofman and maybe the two scenarios could be merged into one project.

2)Mad King James i think started a scenario covering this time period too (Rise of Christianity or some name like that) maybe him or others who have worked on scenarios set in this time period would have useful information, or already coded events and stuff to contribute. Might make the project a little easier and less time-consuming to complete.

hope these suggestions help!
 
Originally posted by Gaius Marius I
1) since the timeline of your scenario extends to the 700's, and since Lofman has already put alot of work into his 476 scenario, maybe you guys should contact Lofman and maybe the two scenarios could be merged into one project.
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I'm afraid there aren't enough tags for that actually... I'd rather suggest that we lower the timespan, as 700 years might be a bit too long compared to the GC with 400... We could perhaps just copy Lofman's work after 476 and say that it's his work...

Originally posted by Gaius Marius I
2)Mad King James i think started a scenario covering this time period too (Rise of Christianity or some name like that) maybe him or others who have worked on scenarios set in this time period would have useful information, or already coded events and stuff to contribute. Might make the project a little easier and less time-consuming to complete.
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I've worked on a scenario with the name: The Rise of Chrisitanity Scenario (tRoCS)
I know that Lars that made a 120 AD scenario, however, he's no longer working on it... It's said to be in the scenario depot...
There's a Roman Universalis 2 in the French forum...
Then there are a few others incomplete... check the Scenario List...

Thanks for the tips anyhow...
 
Originally posted by Kaigon
I'm afraid there aren't enough tags for that actually... I'd rather suggest that we lower the timespan, as 700 years might be a bit too long compared to the GC with 400... We could perhaps just copy Lofman's work after 476 and say that it's his work...
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Let's end it in 400's then.Cool graphics.
 
With 56k modem?It's only a matter of minutes(or hours, or days:D)
 
This project seems to have future! And covers another time in History. With MES (1150-1420) and the 476 Scenario (in developpement), we'll might have a great paintig of our world's History. And in fact, I think it's better to end the scenario in the 400's (why not in 476?...)
Excellent graphics, Kaigon! Are you thinking to make more different ressources? And religions? In MES we also have other ressources, but I think it's sad not have a religion called "Heresy", with it's own icon. But it's only a detail...

Guys, don't forget to tell everyone when you finish the first version. Keep up the very good work!!;)
 
I tink we need another scenario icn, something more Rome-related.Like S.P.Q.R or a wolf with two babies(it's even Rome's city flag today)
 
Originally posted by UBootMan
I tink we need another scenario icn, something more Rome-related.Like S.P.Q.R or a wolf with two babies(it's even Rome's city flag today)
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I agree. Roman Empire did not adopt Christianity as state religion until around 300.
 
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