Sengoku AAR Comment thread

[Ezzezze]

I think with Imagawa and / or Takeda in the plot you would have good odds of making the Uesugi crumble.

I think you should keep a watchful eye on the Date clan though. They might be waiting for an opportunity to attack you

 

[the_hdk]

Uesugi is HUGE wtf!

good luck with that

 

[soran]

Uesugi is HUGE wtf!

good luck with that

funny thing is, that's only about 10-14% of Japan gamewise xD

 

[Sandam]

i somehow think uesugi will either attack you before you finish your plot, or discover it..

 

[Yrsnö]

Bringing Toki into the mix seems to be like asking for trouble in the long run though (judging by landmass at least). On the other hand, lacking quantity in minor supporters I guess it's the best option available.

 

[vanin]

At first glance I think it looks like expansion is a bit too rapid, only 20 years have passed and most of northern Japan (the only part we've seen) seems to be pretty much divided between only 3 clans.

Great AAR though, enjoyable and informative!

 

[Sakura]

At first glance I think it looks like expansion is a bit too rapid, only 20 years have passed and most of northern Japan (the only part we've seen) seems to be pretty much divided between only 3 clans.

Great AAR though, enjoyable and informative!

Don't forget, he only has another 120 years left.

 

[5lyder]

Holy hell.

Uesugi has like 50 provinces, hueg. But IIRC the game has 350, so that's only 15%.

 

[delra]

I'm eager to see what the deblobbing mechanics are. It needs heavy ones if this game is going to last so long.

 

[5lyder]

I'm eager to see what the deblobbing mechanics are. It needs heavy ones if this game is going to last so long.

Not sure about that, after all the objetive is to blob up (unite Japan) and it actually happened with the Tokugawa shogunate.
Clans getting strong and eventually holding more than 50% of the map is to be expected and is completely normal.

 

[jpr123]

But from the previews we've seen it seems possible to unite 50% of Japan in the first 50 or so years without too much difficulty... And probably alot faster than that if you start as the clan leader of a large clan... I really hope that rival clans are constantly trying to form plots against you hopefully along with disgruntled vassals as soon as you start to grow rapidly.

 

[Captain Gars]

I really hope that rival clans are constantly trying to form plots against you hopefully along with disgruntled vassals as soon as you start to grow rapidly.

Yes, you really need to both keep an eye on your vassals, as well as clans around you plotting to take you down. And just because you start big doesn't mean you get a head start. Hosokawa for instance start as the biggest clan, but are involved in wars with so many clans that just surviving as them actually becomes a challenge.

 

[jpr123]

Thats reassuring, thanks.

 

[Wilsonrtf]

You can invite vassals of other clans to your clan, but you cannot invite clan leaders to your clan, as they have a clan of their own already. You can force a clan leader to submit to you via a war and then his clan will become a subclan of your superclan.

But does he keep his daymios as vassals, or his daymios become your daymios instead?

 

[unperson]

But does he keep his daymios as vassals, or his daymios become your daymios instead?

I think daymois can't have other daymios as vassals, only clan leaders, so I assume they become your vassals.

 

[siis]

"You can force a clan leader to submit to you via a war and then his clan will become a subclan of your superclan."
What is your relation to these new vassals after you subdue them? What is more effective, subdue a clan oder conquer the land and assign it to already loyal vassals?

 

[Darkrenown]

i assume that is never good, since aside from facing a possible gameover, you face the odds of not being able to do anything if you have a chance to invade someone

As a vassal it is easier to plot against a clan leader with low honour too.

 

[Jak9090]

hmm, expansion is too rapid imo.

 

[Revshawn]

I have a feeling that when this game comes out, people will scream from near and far grand stories of the great yellow piss-blob.

 

[William Shakens]

hmm, expansion is too rapid imo.

Yes, but historically it is consistent enough.

Bear in mind tha the game starts when a very turbulent era of Japan took place. For the time period of the game, countless clans and factions fought back and forth for the control of the country and by the time tha game ends, all of japan was unified under Tokugawa. So if now the biggest clans own 10-15% of the country, it's not necessarily too fast, since historical plausibility would indicate that in about 120 years the whole country should be unified under just one clan.