Is it normal to get it that fast?
What's Trans-Newtonian elements? Elements way after element 118 in the periodic table?
What's CI?.. and our construction production re-assigned as well...
Also, do we claim characters in this game too, like in DF?
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What's Trans-Newtonian elements? Elements way after element 118 in the periodic table?
Also, do we claim characters in this game too, like in DF?
Is that a weird way of saying a fusion reactor?
Wouldn't the 10 cm bang be in teh radioband, not infrared?
What do those do?
What's teh bonus? And the bonus mod?Research:
And what's teh two letters in front of each bonus?
What's teh critical path?
What skill is that?
Also, in the first list they were only admin skill 3. How is that 5?
How fast do we get scientists?
Do w have a biologist yet?
Removing the leader own't cause problms?
Why's that a problem?
We won't keep making ships with sensors?
Which of thse are for RP puirposes only and hence useless in game?
Why did we research it that early?
What's the difference between that and civilian?
What doe sthose abbreviations at the end of each line mean?
Why the wildly differing size in yards?Now four of our six shipyards are working on new construction:
Also, were you able to specify their size when you built them?
Never realised Blaat was a girl. Not sure why I thoguht she wasn't.
So basically it's saying that if we do a ground survey we'll find more stuff?
Is the asteroid belt in came and if so how many asteroids are tehre?
What do we need sorium for?
Why do we need one specifically for that?
Same.
Also, good to see you Happycats. Been a while.
Is that normal or have we been unlucky?
The game got wavelengths wrong. Visible light isn't even remotely in the 12 cm range...nuary 2nd 1957
Finally! Not that I'm particularly interested in producing weak early-game lasers... but this gives me the last tech I need to start producing ground units.
We couldn't do that early otherwise?On the bright side this does mean early interstellar exploration so that's a good thing in my book.
Where's that located?
Can that cause unrest?
Also, if you don't do it, can you then risk some megacorps forming and giving you game over?
What does teh acc 1 mean? That it's 100% concentration?
So, is tehre a point to taking the Rakha's planet, or is it not worth it?
It's nto possible to come into touch with any survivors of the precursor empire?
Their AI drones can't be reprogrammed+
Als0, jut tens of thousands of years. That'd be while humanmity already was underway. Curious. Sounds like it was for the best they were destroyed then, as otherwise they might have nibbed us in the bud as upstarts.
When might the inaders come, and can we do anythign to postpone it?
Can they be beat?
How will they know we exisrt?
What do you mean by spawn NPR during exploation?
Just got caught up on the thread.
I post as I read the thred, as otherwise I'll have forgotten what I wanted to ask. Espeically when it's in pictures, as those won't be visible in the reply before you post it, so you can't see what it was in the pic you wanted to ask about.
It's nto possible to come into touch with any survivors of the precursor empire?
Their AI drones can't be reprogrammed+
Als0, jut tens of thousands of years. That'd be while humanmity already was underway. Curious. Sounds like it was for the best they were destroyed then, as otherwise they might have nibbed us in the bud as upstarts.
When might the inaders come, and can we do anythign to postpone it?
Can they be beat?
How will they know we exisrt?
What do you mean by spawn NPR during exploation?
Yeah, I noticed after I posted that.You can see this happening in the thread!
Just got caught up on the thread.
I post as I read the thred, as otherwise I'll have forgotten what I wanted to ask. Espeically when it's in pictures, as those won't be visible in the reply before you post it, so you can't see what it was in the pic you wanted to ask about.
I’m reasonably certain that, regardless of gender, Blaat is an adult. (In English, the terms ‘boy‘ and ‘girl’ are for children. Thanks to racism and sexism, using those terms for adults is risky. It’s better to use ‘man‘ and ‘woman.’ You can add the adjective ’young’ if it’s important to emphasize their youth for some reason. —I am sure you used the term innocently, and am making this post because I believe you’d prefer to know that it could be misunderstood.)
I had indeed missed this. Thanks for the heads up blue emu, I will follow ! (and catch up because I only read it superficially for now - thankfully I see we're just getting started here)
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I'm a guy.
We could but there would have been a temptation to play it safe first by building up a fleet, defence stations around jump points etc. but Emu is now (kind of not sure if Quaoar changed his plans) forced to explore other systems early for resources before he can have every thing else ready. Which could lead to exciting moments.
Sorium is used for fuel production, it's space oil if you will you tend to find lots of it in gas giants.
In the Kuiper belt.
Physically I'm an adult, mentally I''m still a boy... I think.
(In English, the terms ‘boy‘ and ‘girl’ are for children. Thanks to racism and sexism, using those terms for adults is risky. It’s better to use ‘man‘ and ‘woman.’ You can add the adjective ’young’ if it’s important to emphasize their youth for some reason. —I am sure you used the term innocently, and am making this post because I believe you’d prefer to know that it could be misunderstood.)
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The USA gained possession of that crashed flying saucer (in New Mexico), so they quickly developed technology that nobody on Earth can compete with.
Also: Gameplay reasons. There is only one player (me) so why divide Earth into two hundred countries and spend half my time stabbing myself in the back.
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Thanks.
(In English, the terms ‘boy‘ and ‘girl’ are for children. Thanks to racism and sexism, using those terms for adults is risky. It’s better to use ‘man‘ and ‘woman.’ You can add the adjective ’young’ if it’s important to emphasize their youth for some reason. —I am sure you used the term innocently, and am making this post because I believe you’d prefer to know that it could be misunderstood.)
And sorry if I caused any offense.
And yeah, I'm certain Blaat is an adult too.
Well, what I meant was that I never realised they were a woman (lol, almost wrote girl again... Just seems very ingrained). Always took them for a man, albeit I don't know why.
In Danish it's different. Boy and girl very much can be used for adults too. And girl often is used for women, especially in informal speech.
And women often call men they are attracted to boys - well, not the word for boy that's generally used, but a different word for boy. It's complicated. There's like a dozen words for boy/man and like a dozen words for girl/woman. At least.
In fact, the common word for woman itself is the genitive declination of another word for woman, which used to solely refer to married women, but now also can be used for older women too.
But yeah, women will call men boys, not men. To give an example. Similarly some terms men use for women mean girl too, rather than woman. It's complicated, and also really depends on context, formality, etc.
Btw, the common word for girl actually means any unmarried woman no matter the age, whereas the word for woman, as mentioned, referred to married women. But the word for girl and the common word for woman (the genitive of the word for a married woman/older woman) both are decoupled from marital status these days. Same goes for words for boy/man which also used to denote marital status.
Not sure how calling a woman girl can be racist, though. But I'm probably missing some American cultural context, as to me calling a woman girl isn't sexist either, but I definitely can see how it can be seen as that if your language is structured way differently to ours.
Sadly I'll likely be unable to refrain from ever usign girl for women, as it's just way too ingrained and deeply ingrained ways of thinking/speaking just are super hard to change. So I hope that can be looked through if I mess up.
In fact, back int he Old Norse days we used to have even more terms for men and women, and a term for girl that's not disappeared from the language used to mean an adolescent girl, as opposed to a girl who was an unmarried girl/woman no matter the age (i.e. whether child or adult) as opposed to a woman who was a married adult. Not sure what a little girl, i.e. a non adolescent child, would be called back then.
In any case, the term for adolescent girl disappeared in the past couple centuries as things were "simplified"* and now it only exists in the context of Norwegian women, as in Norwegian the term meaning adolescent girl in Old Norse became the term for girl and the term that meant unmarried girl/woman no matter the age disappeared.
So in Norway it'd be even worse, as there they linguisitcally speaking call e.g. their adult women's handball team little girls. Not that most people will know all this, mind. To them it's just how the language works, and many of the older meanings either are gone or implicitly/deeply buried so people don't realise them when they use one term over another. Which also is where the * from before comes. It was simplified in the sense that it got less complex. But in the process it became way way harder to understand for outsiders, as a lot of the connections were lost. Declinations were lost, aside from where they weren't. See women which is genitive declination of married woman as an extreme - in almost all cases nouns aren't declined ever anymore. And it led to fixed terms/sayings that make no sense unless you were born into it, as those use the old rules dating back to Old Norse, rules which are so watered down by now that they're essentially gone in present day usage. And which word to use when wont' be understandable by looking at their meaning, as the submeanings that used to differentiate them and determine in whihc context which is used are more or less gone, but they're still lagely used the way they always have been, as that's just "how it's done", without most peopel being able to answer why if you ask them.
Like, ask a group of women who're salivating over some men, who're clearly in their 30s, that walked past why they're calling them (little) boys and they'll look at you confused, as the word they used between themselves just has become the word women use about attractive men, despite how it means a boy - both a little boy, but also a boy who's a teen and can also mean a young adult (as in somebody's who's an adult, but not much over).
Similarly you might find a group of men use a term meaning girl (not the common one for girl, but that might be uesd too) for some women they're checking out.
In that sense many of those terms have detached from the age connections, and rather can be used for all ages. To a certain degree, at least. You likely won't call an 80 years old a girl or a boy.
And they often just are the default, at elast in informal talk.
So yeah, all this was to try and explain why I used girl, not woman, and that I meant no harm by it and it literally is cultural behaviour that seems to traverse the language barrier poorly.
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Also, I just realised this thread now is an official OT thread as it now has linguistics.
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To basically avoid running out of resources before we get more and hence get permanently stuck?We could but there would have been a temptation to play it safe first by building up a fleet, defence stations around jump points etc. but Emu is now (kind of not sure if Quaoar changed his plans) forced to explore other systems early for resources before he can have every thing else ready. Which could lead to exciting moments.
So, is that Planet X in this game? Or are there lots of dwarf planets in game?
Ah. So if you have multiple players you'd have Earth split? Or can Earth never be split?
What would be a good character for me to claim?
What does the bonus mod do?
Like, is it what determines how much faster we research stuff inside our area of expertise than outside it?
Also, I just realised this thread now is an official OT thread as it now has linguistics.
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" Also, in the first list they were only admin skill 3. How is that 5? - Skills CHANGE with experience, over the course of the game. "
I meant that in the screenshot in the same post. Or was that screenshot from the start of the game?
" Do w have a biologist yet? - No. I'm using other scientist to cver Biology... working outside their field."
Oh right. So like with how construction and that other thing we didn't have fromthe start were covered by those two unassigned ones working outside their fields too, right?
" Why's that a problem? - Because I don't hace a Biologist and three of my starting leaders had zero skill."
Is it normal leaders are scientists too, though?
And can't those new leaders just level up in admin over time, like the rest?
Also, if our leaders graduate with zero skill, can we then sack the academy teachers? Clearly they're incompetent.
" What's the difference between that and civilian? - Commercial = Civilian. The big difference between Commercial and Naval vessels is that Commercial vessels require no maintenance or overhauls (in game terms, they are maintained by the civilian sector, not by our navy)."
Ah. So the N and C at teh shipyards denoted whether they can produce civilian or naval ships? No shipyard can do both?
"Why spend several years and thousands of rare and precious TN minerals building a 110,000-ton yard"
yards cost TN?
How did we get those initially as we haven't started mining teh stars yet?
"f you're going to use it to build 20,000-ton colony ships and 10,000-ton Tankers"
Though, didn't we end up having to limit uot tug to just 20000 tonnes as the bigger yards weren't avaialble?
" Also, were you able to specify their size when you built them? - No. You have to manage their construction, year by year."
Oh, so you can't even just tell it to build an x thousand tonnes yard, but need to keep adding more to it year by yer?
" Never realised Blaat was a girl. Not sure why I thoguht she wasn't. - Blaaat's CHARACTER is a girl. Because that's what the game GAVE me. Blaaat was going to command a survey craft. All five of the top survey experts were girls. QED."
Ah. Makes sense. Initially thguht that might be the case, but didn't see any gender information in the screenshot, so thought you meant Blaat themselves.
" Is the asteroid belt in came and if so how many asteroids are tehre? - Hundreds. 480 asteroids in total."
Why did we limit to 6 comets, but have that many asteroids?
Also, the 750 systems in teh game, is that the entire galaxy, or just a local part of it?
" What do we need sorium for? - Lots of things. Its primary use is for making space-fuel. It is the ONLY source of space-fuel. If we ever run out of Soriom, we are no longer a space-travelling race."
So basically it'd be game over then, and our colonies in diferent systems no longer would be able to communicate?
" Why do we need one specifically for that? - Because I would rather build a new shipyard and expand it to 20,000 tons than use a large yard to build small stuff."
Didn't you already have a 20k yard, though? Also, if the large yards aren't building anything anyway, why not use it for some colony ships?
" We couldn't do that early otherwise? - Why bother, if there was a wealth of minerals here in the Sol system? Why go light-years away looking for something that you've already found in your own backyard? The point is not exploration for its own sake, but to KEEP EXPANDING which requires a steady supply of minerals."
Oh. Had i been in charge then I'd have been exploring for exploration sake, as why not. And colonising as many places as possible.
" Also, if you don't do it, can you then risk some megacorps forming and giving you game over? - I might end up running out of minerals, which would pretty well be game over."
So private companies never give you any of teh minerals they get and don't bring them to market either?
Why would anybody not make that law, then? As in, why's it in the game then, if it's a no brainer.
Nice with the 100% concentrations. is that rare?
Seems small deposits, though, so despite not requiring refining they're way smaller. Or is teh amount listed the amount of ore, not the amount of pure mineral?
I.e. a 250k tonnes 1 acc duranium would have more duranium than a 2 million tonnes 0.1 acc duranium?
I meant that in the screenshot in the same post. Or was that screenshot from the start of the game?
" Do w have a biologist yet? - No. I'm using other scientist to cver Biology... working outside their field."
Oh right. So like with how construction and that other thing we didn't have fromthe start were covered by those two unassigned ones working outside their fields too, right?
" Why's that a problem? - Because I don't hace a Biologist and three of my starting leaders had zero skill."
Is it normal leaders are scientists too, though?
And can't those new leaders just level up in admin over time, like the rest?
Also, if our leaders graduate with zero skill, can we then sack the academy teachers? Clearly they're incompetent.
" What's the difference between that and civilian? - Commercial = Civilian. The big difference between Commercial and Naval vessels is that Commercial vessels require no maintenance or overhauls (in game terms, they are maintained by the civilian sector, not by our navy)."
Ah. So the N and C at teh shipyards denoted whether they can produce civilian or naval ships? No shipyard can do both?
"Why spend several years and thousands of rare and precious TN minerals building a 110,000-ton yard"
yards cost TN?
How did we get those initially as we haven't started mining teh stars yet?
"f you're going to use it to build 20,000-ton colony ships and 10,000-ton Tankers"
Though, didn't we end up having to limit uot tug to just 20000 tonnes as the bigger yards weren't avaialble?
" Also, were you able to specify their size when you built them? - No. You have to manage their construction, year by year."
Oh, so you can't even just tell it to build an x thousand tonnes yard, but need to keep adding more to it year by yer?
" Never realised Blaat was a girl. Not sure why I thoguht she wasn't. - Blaaat's CHARACTER is a girl. Because that's what the game GAVE me. Blaaat was going to command a survey craft. All five of the top survey experts were girls. QED."
Ah. Makes sense. Initially thguht that might be the case, but didn't see any gender information in the screenshot, so thought you meant Blaat themselves.
" Is the asteroid belt in came and if so how many asteroids are tehre? - Hundreds. 480 asteroids in total."
Why did we limit to 6 comets, but have that many asteroids?
Also, the 750 systems in teh game, is that the entire galaxy, or just a local part of it?
" What do we need sorium for? - Lots of things. Its primary use is for making space-fuel. It is the ONLY source of space-fuel. If we ever run out of Soriom, we are no longer a space-travelling race."
So basically it'd be game over then, and our colonies in diferent systems no longer would be able to communicate?
" Why do we need one specifically for that? - Because I would rather build a new shipyard and expand it to 20,000 tons than use a large yard to build small stuff."
Didn't you already have a 20k yard, though? Also, if the large yards aren't building anything anyway, why not use it for some colony ships?
" We couldn't do that early otherwise? - Why bother, if there was a wealth of minerals here in the Sol system? Why go light-years away looking for something that you've already found in your own backyard? The point is not exploration for its own sake, but to KEEP EXPANDING which requires a steady supply of minerals."
Oh. Had i been in charge then I'd have been exploring for exploration sake, as why not. And colonising as many places as possible.
" Also, if you don't do it, can you then risk some megacorps forming and giving you game over? - I might end up running out of minerals, which would pretty well be game over."
So private companies never give you any of teh minerals they get and don't bring them to market either?
Why would anybody not make that law, then? As in, why's it in the game then, if it's a no brainer.
Nice with the 100% concentrations. is that rare?
Seems small deposits, though, so despite not requiring refining they're way smaller. Or is teh amount listed the amount of ore, not the amount of pure mineral?
I.e. a 250k tonnes 1 acc duranium would have more duranium than a 2 million tonnes 0.1 acc duranium?
" So, is tehre a point to taking the Rakha's planet, or is it not worth it? - We can't even survey it from orbit (to check for minerals or Ruins) until we get rid of the hostiles. They don't have ships, but they DO have ground-to-orbit anti-ship weaponry."
Ruins? Wuld those be from teh precursors?
" Als0, jut tens of thousands of years. That'd be while humanmity already was underway. Curious. Sounds like it was for the best they were destroyed then, as otherwise they might have nibbed us in the bud as upstarts. - It might be hundreds of thousands. Probably not millions of years, though."
Still sounds like it's fortunate they're gone, as otherwise humanity might have been in trouble.
" When might the inaders come, and can we do anythign to postpone it? - The more we explore, the greater the risks. There are "triggers" that increase the risk, just like the population and wealth triggers in Dwarf Fortress increase the risk of sieges."
Ah, so if we stayed in say 4 systems and got a total population of a quadrillion it'd never trigger, but if we spread to 100 systems, but only had a population of 1 trillion it probably would trigger?
" How will they know we exist? - Clarke's Law. Any sufficiently advanced technology will appear to be magic."
Fair enough. Not sure that actually holds, though.
Like, when OT had the thread about going back in time to save the byzzies we all quickly realised that while present day tech would appear as magic in what it can do, then we'd still not be able to play off being angels giving divine guidanece, as they'd quickly realise we were humans jhust with way better tech (and then possibly kill us). Which reminds me that I can't recall why we had to start in Lebanon of all places.
" What do you mean by spawn NPR during exploration? - As we explore, we trigger new NPRs to enter the game. The NPRs themselves can do the same. In our Ad Astra game, we ended up with about eight races. "
So at teh start there's only us and our main adversary? Why aren't the ones that spawn just spanwed fromt he start? Or is it to allow us to get some headstart, or will spawned ones spawn already owning several systems, etc.?
" So, is that Planet X in this game? Or are there lots of dwarf planets in game? - Quaoar is real. Check the Wiki. Planet X is just a game construct. A gas giant with dozens of moons, way out in the cometary halo."
Oh, I know what Planet X is. (Also, isn't it still theoretically possible? Like, doesn't Transneptunian comets have some gravitational perturbation that could be a planet further out, but also could just be from teh Kuiper Belt itself? Or has the Voyager misssions fully proven it not the case?
Just meant whether all the dwarf planets are in, or at least the major ones, or if that specific one was used as planet X.
Also, do we know for certain thre's a planet X in game, or does that setting just allow for the possibility of one?
" Ah. So if you have multiple players you'd have Earth split? Or can Earth never be split? - You can have multiple players on Earth, yes."
Could you then also have wars on Earth, competition fo rthe resources in the solar system, and risk getting stuck in the solar system due to wasting all the TN elements waging war?
" What would be a good character for me to claim? - What interests you? Scout pilots see most of the action... and take most of the casualties. There are also desk jobs back at HQ... Director of Surveys, Director of Orbital Mining, Director of Operations (once we have some warships)."
Well, I have done quite a bit of astronomy, so perhaps some researcher that researches space, or at least has a field researching it.
That or some administrator, I guess - director of surveys could work then, as that does seem fiting for astronomy. Does those dirctors actually do anything, though?
Ruins? Wuld those be from teh precursors?
" Als0, jut tens of thousands of years. That'd be while humanmity already was underway. Curious. Sounds like it was for the best they were destroyed then, as otherwise they might have nibbed us in the bud as upstarts. - It might be hundreds of thousands. Probably not millions of years, though."
Still sounds like it's fortunate they're gone, as otherwise humanity might have been in trouble.
" When might the inaders come, and can we do anythign to postpone it? - The more we explore, the greater the risks. There are "triggers" that increase the risk, just like the population and wealth triggers in Dwarf Fortress increase the risk of sieges."
Ah, so if we stayed in say 4 systems and got a total population of a quadrillion it'd never trigger, but if we spread to 100 systems, but only had a population of 1 trillion it probably would trigger?
" How will they know we exist? - Clarke's Law. Any sufficiently advanced technology will appear to be magic."
Fair enough. Not sure that actually holds, though.
Like, when OT had the thread about going back in time to save the byzzies we all quickly realised that while present day tech would appear as magic in what it can do, then we'd still not be able to play off being angels giving divine guidanece, as they'd quickly realise we were humans jhust with way better tech (and then possibly kill us). Which reminds me that I can't recall why we had to start in Lebanon of all places.
" What do you mean by spawn NPR during exploration? - As we explore, we trigger new NPRs to enter the game. The NPRs themselves can do the same. In our Ad Astra game, we ended up with about eight races. "
So at teh start there's only us and our main adversary? Why aren't the ones that spawn just spanwed fromt he start? Or is it to allow us to get some headstart, or will spawned ones spawn already owning several systems, etc.?
" So, is that Planet X in this game? Or are there lots of dwarf planets in game? - Quaoar is real. Check the Wiki. Planet X is just a game construct. A gas giant with dozens of moons, way out in the cometary halo."
Oh, I know what Planet X is. (Also, isn't it still theoretically possible? Like, doesn't Transneptunian comets have some gravitational perturbation that could be a planet further out, but also could just be from teh Kuiper Belt itself? Or has the Voyager misssions fully proven it not the case?
Just meant whether all the dwarf planets are in, or at least the major ones, or if that specific one was used as planet X.
Also, do we know for certain thre's a planet X in game, or does that setting just allow for the possibility of one?
" Ah. So if you have multiple players you'd have Earth split? Or can Earth never be split? - You can have multiple players on Earth, yes."
Could you then also have wars on Earth, competition fo rthe resources in the solar system, and risk getting stuck in the solar system due to wasting all the TN elements waging war?
" What would be a good character for me to claim? - What interests you? Scout pilots see most of the action... and take most of the casualties. There are also desk jobs back at HQ... Director of Surveys, Director of Orbital Mining, Director of Operations (once we have some warships)."
Well, I have done quite a bit of astronomy, so perhaps some researcher that researches space, or at least has a field researching it.
That or some administrator, I guess - director of surveys could work then, as that does seem fiting for astronomy. Does those dirctors actually do anything, though?
