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Personally, i started with Warhammer Fantasy back in the day (not liking the new Age of Sigmar nonsense though), but eventually switched to 40K as I love space stuff..

That said, having versed myself immensely in the lore (I could get a Degree on the subject these days) I am flabbergasted at the almighty cock ups the Emperor managed to achieve in order to get where he is "today". He dropped the ball, several times, which led to the Heresy and his internment.

So I do sympathise with those who shout "DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR! "

That said, if he does die, chances are he will be reborn as an entity far more powerful than all the Chaos God's combined... perhaps that was the plan after all? Who are we to second guess the God Emperors plans?

DIE HERETIC!
Yeah the emperor is almost as much a boring marty stu as the ultramarines.
 
Yeah the emperor is almost as much a boring marty stu as the ultramarines.

I think the Ultramarines are misunderstood - Ultramar is probably the most socially advanced and well Governed region of the Imperium. Yes, they love to follow the rules, so i suppose if that's what your on about I'd agree, but compared to some of the other Legions/Chapters/Primarchs they are the most decent - many of the others, even Loyalists, are complete twonks.

I don't think the Emperor is boring though - daft as a brush sometimes, but not boring. He missed a trick not allowing people to worship him and not making people aware of Chaos, so when it reared it's head everyone was unprepared for it and didn't know what to look out for. Had he simply allowed Lorgar to worship him and told people of the actual truth, not the "imperial truth", the Heresy wouldn't have happened... And that's just two of his many balls-ups.
 
I think the Ultramarines are misunderstood - Ultramar is probably the most socially advanced and well Governed region of the Imperium. Yes, they love to follow the rules, so i suppose if that's what your on about I'd agree, but compared to some of the other Legions/Chapters/Primarchs they are the most decent - many of the others, even Loyalists, are complete twonks.

I don't think the Emperor is boring though - daft as a brush sometimes, but not boring. He missed a trick not allowing people to worship him and not making people aware of Chaos, so when it reared it's head everyone was unprepared for it and didn't know what to look out for. Had he simply allowed Lorgar to worship him and told people of the actual truth, not the "imperial truth", the Heresy wouldn't have happened... And that's just two of his many balls-ups.
That or the setting isn't written by a great author to be a great work of litterature. I'm going with the latter.
 
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I'm kinda confused at amount of "Purge xenos" and Warhammer 40,000K references .-. I do understand that most of it is just kidding, but it seems like lot of people just want to have dev diary on genocides

The empire of man's emperor in 40k lore is something of an alien, immortal and with psychic powers. So how is that the purity of humanity? Well, so long as they keep fighting aliens and orks, they won't have to answer that question.

I like the details of the human Sol system, reminds me of Alien Legacy's main territory, Beta A.
 
The empire of man's emperor in 40k lore is something of an alien, immortal and with psychic powers. So how is that the purity of humanity? Well, so long as they keep fighting aliens and orks, they won't have to answer that question.
The 40K references I make are all tongue and cheek. It's a fun universe.

The reason I would play xenophobic would be an outgrowth of an anthropocentric altruism. In order to preserve mankind, steps must be taken to ensure its safety. Because the Bomber Will Always Get Through and defense in space is impossible, it becomes necessary to strike first and strike decisively. After all, any intelligent life is also aware of the danger, is also analyzing this equation and cannot possibly trust a species they have only just encountered.

Once we leave the safety-net of society and friendship we've built up over centuries on Earth, we are back into the wild of yore. Kill or be killed. Natural selection at its worst. Some on this board have said Newton is the universe's most nasty sonoffagun, but it's Darwin that really kicks you in the craw.
 
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Space Byzantium....

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Or...Space Polish Roman Empire....space varangians and space hussars
 
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The 40K references I make are all tongue and cheek. It's a fun universe.

The reason I would play xenophobic would be an outgrowth of an anthropocentric altruism. In order to preserve mankind, steps must be taken to ensure its safety. Because the Bomber Will Always Get Through and defense in space is impossible, it becomes necessary to strike first and strike decisively. After all, any intelligent life is also aware of the danger, is also analyzing this equation and cannot possibly trust a species they have only just encountered.

Once we leave the safety-net of society and friendship we've built up over centuries on Earth, we are back into the wild of yore. Kill or be killed. Natural selection at its worst. Some on this board have said Newton is the universe's most nasty sonoffagun, but it's Darwin that really kicks you in the craw.

Other humans can be just as alien as the aliens, so I cannot see one as being superior than the other. The language barrier may be the only difference around there. But for empires, often the greatest threat were traitors and factions within, not merely external threats. Even Warhammer 40k had something of that kind of plot, in the primarch heresy revolt.

In Heroic Age, they crafted an interesting individual based psychic species who traveled in their star ship homes, like people do with their web blogs, websites, and forums. Instant com like the internet, geographically and culturally un linked. But would still make war via direct democracy or the Willpower of the Majority in psychic terms, by amassing their various individual solo individual ships together. Like steppe barbarians. For those people, external threats to planets were meaningless, because they were like a Banksian culture, they could move wherever they wanted to in the universe, population or no population.

A person, like a civilization, generally has two broad choices when it comes to dealing with challenges. Change themselves or attempt to change the world (the galaxy in this sense). Neigong, in Chinese martial arts tradition, is the internalizing of powers and wisdom, internal change. Wei-gong, external work or change or power. In that sense, it fits with the precepts or metaphysical concept of Yin vs Yang.
 
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