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Ceimur

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Description
Uplifted Presapient Species can't be Modified

Game Version
3.12

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?
Plantoids, Humanoids, Synthetic Dawn, Utopia, Leviathans Story Pack, Apocalypse, Megacorp, Distant Stars, Ancient Relics, Lithoids, Federations, Necroids, Nemesis, Aquatics, Overlord, Toxoids, Galactic Paragons

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
When I click Create Template on a uplifted presapient Species, I should get all of the Basic Biological Traits available. But when I do there are no available traits to pick from

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Step 1 Pick a race doesn't really matter
Step 2 Click your planet
Step 3 Open Console Command with "`"
Step 4 use the command effect spawn_presapient_species_randomizer_effect = yes
Step 5 use the command research_all_technologies 0
Step 6 close the console command by pressing "`" again and continue the time for 1 day
Step 7 Open The Species Menu and click on the presapient species
Step 8 Click Uplift
Step 9 Open the Situation Log and Research the Uplift Situation
Step 10 Open the Species tab again and Click Create Template

Since It also doesn't specify here, I Do not Have Machine Age
Also Do not mind that the Uplifted Presapient do not have a habitability. That's a side effect of the console command and I usually just add that in.
If you want to you can try doing it with a normal run. I certainly have uplifted a regular presapient species without console and the result stayed the same

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Same issue, slight variant path to reproduce:

Exact same version, DLC, and no mods.

As an empire researching the Genetics tradition, I cannot select new traits when attempting to modify biological species that are new to the empire, unless the species already has traits costing modification points.

To reproduce:
Complete 3 traditions to select the Engineered Evolution trait and begin the Genetics tradition. Gain a new species using a migration treaty that has zero points of traits (e.g., it is uplifted). Attempt to modify species.

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Still issue persist since 2 month


I've just checked this on 3.12.4 on Steam and cannot manage to reproduce the issue. I suspect that saves made before the fix was implemented (in 3.12.3, released on 2024-05-30) may continue to have this bug affecting species that were uplifted in that save game, but species uplifted after the fix should be fine.

If you can reproduce the issue in 3.12.4, please let us know!
 
I've just checked this on 3.12.4 on Steam and cannot manage to reproduce the issue. I suspect that saves made before the fix was implemented (in 3.12.3, released on 2024-05-30) may continue to have this bug affecting species that were uplifted in that save game, but species uplifted after the fix should be fine.

If you can reproduce the issue in 3.12.4, please let us know!
Do i need to delet this saved game and Start over?