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tonhur

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I have lost all hopes with sweden as AI. It almost never expands anywhere. Swedish AI almost always makes white peace with russia and with danes too most of the time.

I would like to hear suggestions how do I :

a) make it more agressive (sweden rarely starts war with normal settings)
b) make it expand as ai
c) what would be the best way of strenghtening swedish military might without drowing game balance out of the window.
d) any way to make it so that sweden would use its colonist to convert provinces and expand its colonies in scandinavia (same goes for russia and the danes who never use their colonists to their homa provinces)

Hmm, also is it possible somehow to make it so that sweden has good change of inheriting the teutons? Or make it more likely that swedes would vasalize/annex them?
 
Some ideas

Doomie would be the real expert, knowing what can be tweaked or not. But here is a stab at it.

Sweden's AI file in EU\db

Since WAR is already set to 100 and Sweden is set to colonize Scandinavian region, you are left with few alternatives.

Make it a monopolist and select COT in Sweden for the IGC. That gives other nations a CB against Sweden as it will impose trade embargos more quickly (assuming Sweden is AI-driven).

Give it a bonus for colonizing near enemies.


Other

It would need a shipyard to have sufficient colonists for serious colonization. Maybe.. well if you closed your eyes and threw salt over your left shoulder you could ease your guilt of giving it a shipyard. ;)

The changes involving the Teutons would require editing the text.csv file and the 1492_IGC.inc file. Be careful.
 
tonhur,

if you want SWE AI more aggressive you could put more territories in their national province list in the area you would like to see them expand. by default i think only estonia (of the teutonic order's lands) are on SWEs national province list.

Good luck and have fun,

ErrantOne
 
Sweden is indeed a tad too passive, but IMO her choice of allies is even more worrying. She allies with Russia and Denmark more often than not. (The logical choice would be Poland). Anyway, with IGC2.0k, Sweden seems more likely to expand in the Baltic. I recommend choosing the "Teutonic Order Ingermanland" option in the IGCConfig as it seems to put Sweden on the right track.

For the record, Ingermanland, Estonia, Livonia and Kurland are all considered Swedish core provinces in the IGC.
 
you can give the countries around sweden cassus belli against sweden
 
The reason she white peaces so much is that attrition is brutal in all those scandanavian provinces, and the Swedish AI bleeds out its manpower reserve very quickly by massing all its troops in a single province. The AI has the same propensity in more hospitable climates, but stacking 100k troops in a support 80 province is much less expensive than stacking 100k troops in a support 10 province.

If you actually wanted to make her a ligitmate threat in the baltic, I'd lower her infantry cost and crank up the manpower of her core provinces. I suppose you could rationalize this as a high military participation ratio or some such.
 
If you actually wanted to make her a ligitmate threat in the baltic, I'd lower her infantry cost and crank up the manpower of her core provinces. I suppose you could rationalize this as a high military participation ratio or some such.

...and wouldn't people scream if I did that? ;)

Seriously, Sweden already has unhistorically high city populations, and the level 3 fortresses in Savolaks and Nyland are questionable, but something had to be done to make her a bit stronger.

Considering actual history, it might be more accurate to make the Swedish monarchs exceptionally good administrators and the miltary leaders even better than they are, but I think the present solution works out well.
 
maby make swedens ships cheaper.
at the current sweden only wars with russia and denmark, and sweden almost always loses those wars.
Sweden had a mighty fleet so it woulnd be all to unhistorical eiter.
 
Well something have changed in IGC 2.1& EU 1.09 or its just rare occurance. I playing hands off test game and am now in mid 1600's.

The settings used : AI normal agressive
chaos hurts
Aus/Spa lowlands
T. O. Ignemarland & Moldovian bujak
Cot in stockholm, Aglia & Reval
Free bretange & Norway (this might be the reason actually)
USA (did absolutely nothing and was annexed by france) & balkanization
United Prussia

What has happened :
Colonisation : stagnad for most part. Inca&aztecs survive. Most of the world still not colonised. Some 20 spanish colonies/tp's in mid - north america & some in south , protugal controlls Brazil with couple colonies and many TP's also several TP's/colonies here and there from africa to far east. Few english/french/turkish colonies/TP's in N america/africa/India, some minor TP's here and there (over half dozen swedish ones :p )

England : has only lost marches
French : lost couple norther provinces to minors gained southern low lands province and franche comte, gained potugals norhtern province.
Spain : lost provinces above to french gained portugals province in north africa, lost naples to hazif empite (province next to rome too)
Austria : annexed bohemia and has taken some provinces around it, annexed two german minors
P-L : lost some ground to Austria and some others around it, gained land from ex crimea (annexed by turkey).
Turkey : Mameluks (military), crimea (diplo) & Hungary annexed (also one country south of ex mameluks). Ragusa & Walasia (earlier annexed by Moldavia) too. Has lost most of crimea and all Hungary since.
4 muslim nations are its vasals so they will be annexed sooner or later.
Russia : All khanates exept the one south of ex sibir taken (time of troubles saw short lived independance of kazan and golden horde)
Few TP's and colonies in Siberia.
Sweden : midle part of the norway taken, Denmark (diplo, what was left of it) & Pskov annexed (pskov and ignemarland provinces).
Sweden amazingly has also growing colonial empire and is true colonial power as others are not explanding colonially that much in this game.
Germany : Pommeria controlls 4 provinces (the Danish mainland one and one south of it), Prussia lost east prussia, some minors got couple povinces from french, couple were annexed. Netherland has formed and has couple tp's.
Italy : Milan has annexed Papal states! and Genoa, naples is no more as always, not much else. Venice has couple TP's

Strange thing is also that there is not much infrastructure building anywhere. Most colonies are not even fortified or have only 1 level forts. Much of the europe still have level 1 or 2 forts, couple level 3 have just popped up, very few manufactories have been build. Economy of the majors seem stagnant (stopped), they are hard pressed to maintain their armies and navies and expanding colonially.

So in this game at least Sweden has become powerfull force :D I'll see what it does until the end of the game :) maybe conquers all scandinavia and maybe even the world hehe;)