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I would say on the question of Hungary that it would be the most difficult of the Axis powers to knock out because of its central location. I doubt that it draws the number of forces off that the Sicily offensive does, especially because Sicily is way down south, it will also take them awhile to reposition their forces appropriately. Going after Hungary just creates a giant salient in their line, and possibly over extends us. Frontage in Italy will be narrow and therefore easier to control, easier to bypass or fix to destroy. The Sicily option is no different than and semi-offensive version of the Calistar line, with the added benefit that it opens up more opportunities rather than restricts them.

More to @nuclearslurpee 's point about the NU, since we already have a significant network there, we can lower their NU driving home the morale impacts of the losses overseas, and making knocking Italy out of the war easier.

I do not necessarily say that Hungary must be taken, but we must certainly get their border and lock both them and Italy into defending their own home fronts before we think about doing something else like opening another, potentially very costly, front. Hungary may or may not be well defended, it remains to be seen. Sicily may be well defended under the same reasoning. Either way, we need to get the Axis out of the Balkans and eliminate the threat to Romania forever before we do anything else. The Patriotic Front comes first after all.
 
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Great debate so far. Am following closely. I will chime in a bit later but for now, let the thousands flowers bloom ;)

happy also for thoughts on whether we should continue to keep our small screen on the Eastern Front, bring it back, or indeed send it elsewhere, such as the border with India.

Thoughts on any other aspects, including production priorities etc, also welcome, for the 1943 grand strategy cabinet meeting.
 
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happy also for thoughts on whether we should continue to keep our small screen on the Eastern Front, bring it back, or indeed send it elsewhere, such as the border with India.
I think they shall keep going until Vladivostok :) USSR seems to have corrected the course on the Eastern Front but I'm still not very confident they can keep it rolling and might need our assistance there.

I do not necessarily say that Hungary must be taken, but we must certainly get their border and lock both them and Italy into defending their own home fronts before we think about doing something else like opening another, potentially very costly, front. Hungary may or may not be well defended, it remains to be seen. Sicily may be well defended under the same reasoning. Either way, we need to get the Axis out of the Balkans and eliminate the threat to Romania forever before we do anything else. The Patriotic Front comes first after all.
Hungary is basically a huge piece of plains so once we're there the best would be to take them out and hold the mountains (and forts) of southern Czechoslovakia and eastern Austria if what we want is to hold our ground for some time after extension.

Thoughts on any other aspects, including production priorities etc, also welcome, for the 1943 grand strategy cabinet meeting.
I think we should keep an eye on when the 1943 models of airplanes by USA and heavy armor by USSR pop up (1943 is a nice year for upgrades) and license them. We're already motorizing our infantry which is a great improvement. We can also license some mech, except for some small increments in firepower and unfortunately the speed upgrades, it takes the majority of its firepower upgrades from the infantry tech we already keep current. It's very expensive but I think we should spend on it (maybe once they research the 1943 light tank engine so mech gets its 1943 speed upgrade?). One thing we can also do is to research Combined Arms Warfare which not only gives 10% extra CA bonus which is huge, but also enables SP Rocket Artillery so we can build our own SP artillery. Again we won't have any speed upgrades because they come from medium tank engine, but the firepower upgrades come from the rocket artillery techs (which we can research instead of the regular artillery and upgrade our artilleries from regular to rocket for the next model year so we need to keep only one kind of artillery research current). The SP Rocket Artillery thing is optional, but the CA bonus of the tech is very good.

The biggest problem I can see about how we can progress (in any direction) is, one end of our front is anchored at where Romanian/Soviet can move the southern Romania front. We can only extend our lines so much, and at this point each province (or 2) taken in a westward direction would require the front to lengthen for one province whereas lengthening the front north one province would net us like I don't know how many but the entire front moves north one step. If we can make an envelopment in the anchor point where our front meets with Romania, our allies can also move forward a few steps helping shorten our front.
 
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Having had time to digest the latest reports I now have several comments and one big suggestion. Frost Wolf seems to have gone much as I suspected. The Germans were able to get across the river but not stay there. It now looks like two more divisions the Axis will have to write off.

The Great Patriotic front seems to be doing well except in the north. At the pace they are going most of the front looks to be back on its spring ines in a couple of months. The north is still dicey but if FInland doesn't come in as an active participant it should be possible to stabalize it. Particularly if the Germans attention can be drawn elsewhere.

Now a couple of observations on the fronts nearer to home. First, the tempo of Axis operations over the last six months has led me to suspect that they are shuffling units between the Sava lne and Transylvania to try and keep both fronts goiing. If that is the case they may be short on reserves and vulnerable if we can pocket a few more divisions. Second, the behavior of the schwere-panzer division is a little confusing. I would have expected them to lead any attack aimed at reopening a supply line into the pocket but instead all they did was a spoiling attack. There also does not seem to be anything in visible range behind them. Are they in fact the end of the Axis defensive lines in this sector?

If this is right then we have a major opportunity and now it is time for the big suggestion. We already have units planing to move into the gap to the northwest. I would look to swing them back to the northeast and into any gap behind the Axis line along the Sava. I would suggest that we immediately start moving all reserves including the marines towards the lower Sava. If we can get troops behind them there are a lot of troops that could get caught along the Sava if we start forming pockets. I would not commit these reserves until we know we can move behind the Sava line, but if we wait until we know that is possible, we may not be able to get them to the front in time to have much effect. My idea is that the marines will help force the rivers with the local forces then carrying on the assaults. This would likely lead to a very confused opperation between the Sava and the mountains west of Lake Balaton and does have some risk but could also lead to a large number of Axis divisions being trapped. Whether the final decision is to attempt it or not, it should at least be considered.

Following this, my thoughts are to let Italy sit for the next year. We are already stretched about as far as possible and can't afford the garrisons a significant operation in Italy would require. Instead I would concentrate on Hungary. If they can be taken out of the war, it will probably take the position in Transylvania out with them. At that point we would have Romanian support for the defense of Yugoslavia and could concentrate most of our army on Italy with much higher chances of success.
 
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The biggest problem I can see about how we can progress (in any direction) is, one end of our front is anchored at where Romanian/Soviet can move the southern Romania front. We can only extend our lines so much, and at this point each province (or 2) taken in a westward direction would require the front to lengthen for one province whereas lengthening the front north one province would net us like I don't know how many but the entire front moves north one step. If we can make an envelopment in the anchor point where our front meets with Romania, our allies can also move forward a few steps helping shorten our front.
There is a useful counterpoint to this: if we can extend the front near the Romanian border anchor point, that enables us to turn the flank of the Axis forces pushing into Romania, which would force them to divert additional forces to that line and thin their lines facing Romanian forces. That could be what is needed to help Romania push back and reclaim their organic territory while we defend in former Yugoslavia and perhaps send an "expeditionary" force (under Turkish control of course!) to help the Romanians push out.
 
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There is a useful counterpoint to this: if we can extend the front near the Romanian border anchor point, that enables us to turn the flank of the Axis forces pushing into Romania, which would force them to divert additional forces to that line and thin their lines facing Romanian forces. That could be what is needed to help Romania push back and reclaim their organic territory while we defend in former Yugoslavia and perhaps send an "expeditionary" force (under Turkish control of course!) to help the Romanians push out.
That was very roughly similar to what I was suggesting a few posts ago about doing an envelopment near the anchor point so we only need to cover 120 degrees or less instead of 180. That also hits the Axis divisions fighting Romanians in the flank/back.
 
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That was very roughly similar to what I was suggesting a few posts ago about doing an envelopment near the anchor point so we only need to cover 120 degrees or less instead of 180. That also hits the Axis divisions fighting Romanians in the flank/back.
What I'm more trying to get at is that even if we don't have the forces to create an envelopment, extending the Axis flank in that region is still a strong move simply by overextending the Axis armies. An envelopment sounds nice but Turkey still lacks the mobile forces to pull off anything larger than a small encirclement, which while always useful probably would have less of an effect on the Romanian situation, and could inadvertently help the Axis AI by shortening the front.
 
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What I'm more trying to get at is that even if we don't have the forces to create an envelopment, extending the Axis flank in that region is still a strong move simply by overextending the Axis armies. An envelopment sounds nice but Turkey still lacks the mobile forces to pull off anything larger than a small encirclement, which while always useful probably would have less of an effect on the Romanian situation, and could inadvertently help the Axis AI by shortening the front.
Yeah, by envelopment I meant something like what we did in Op Frost Wolf but smaller in sweep angle because from the anchor point the front makes a northern bend.

By the way, nobody commented about my idea to bring out the fleet when the Italian armor on that island province is about to break, let's please don't forget that :D
 
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By the way, nobody commented about my idea to bring out the fleet when the Italian armor on that island province is about to break, let's please don't forget that :D
I’d still be a bit concerned about Italian air power pulverising them. Not sure one Italian armoured division is worth the risk :confused:. I actually want to cut them off by land to the north, but have had to wait for the units to reorganise and be in position to strike out again.
 
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I’d still be a bit concerned about Italian air power pulverising them. Not sure one Italian armoured division is worth the risk :confused:. I actually want to cut them off by land to the north, but have had to wait for the units to reorganise and be in position to strike out again.
Just for a few hours, before the Italian Air Force even realizes they're there :) With good coordination you can pull this off :D
 
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Just for a few hours, before the Italian Air Force even realizes they're there :) With good coordination you can pull this off :D
Will see if it becomes a possibility. I might even have them cut off by then, as the cross-strait attack will take quite a while to get going - and may need help anyway.
 
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It still remains that our role is to push back the Axis in the Balkans, support Romania and try to relieve as much pressure from the soviets. What way we order those three things is the question.

At the moment, if the enemy are truly trying for troops, we should push for all we have up to the ore war borders, at least, and perhaps beyond to Hungary itself. If however the Axis are gearing up for another assault on Romania, we have to prioritise that. For the next few weeks at least, the society's don't need that much help so we can move on with pushing our own fronts up. Unless and until the breakthrough in the north of the Russian lines happens, we should be trying to make the Axis sweat it out in the Balkans by pushing s far north as we can. Even if th push us back in a big counter attack, we've already proven we can hold a defence line somewhere, the huge Greek trenches are finished and there's little to lose in forcing the Axis to waste time and men reoccupying the same ground they've just lost.

I'd recommend attempting to either smash straight through the lines, if they are as weak as some claim, or continue envelopments until we are breath down Italy and hungarys necks. At that point, the Axis either have to respond with all their uncommitted forces in an assault or sit them on our border doing nothing for the rest of the war.
 
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Chapter 189: 1942 - Annual Report
Chapter 189: 1942 - Annual Report

AuthAAR’s Note: We will look back briefly to the beginning of the Comintern’s “Great Liberation War” on 1 June 1940, chart the broad sweep of the war to the present, then focus on the key/largest battles for Turkey in 1942, finishing with a summary of world naval losses during the year and a chance to ponder what may follow in the Balkans for Turkey in 1943. See at the end re response to strategic suggestions so far, which will come eventually :)

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Context: The Great Liberation War Begins and France Falls – May to December 1940

As Belgium capitulated on 31 May 1940, the Germans had broken through to the north of the Maginot Line and then Italy had infamously stabbed France in the back.

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Turkey had hoped to bring the Soviets into a war with the fascists while France was still viable – and now it was failing. The end of May finally also brought the absorption of the Baltic States by the Soviet Union. And though the Soviets had not yet had a chance to garrison the Baltic border with Eastern Prussia, France was on the brink. Inönü acted, declaring war on Germany; and to his relief the Soviets followed. He had his two-front war with Germany.

The Turkish plan was to defend a shortened line on good defensive terrain, dubbed the Yeniçeri Line, in their sector and rely on a Soviet and Romanian offensive to take advantage of Germany’s divided attention. If that failed, their final fall-back would be to the heavily fortified Iskandar and Calistar Lines in Southern Greece and the Bosporus.

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Comintern dispositions on the eve of the Greatr Liberation War. This theatre would become known as the Patriotic front.

But the initial Soviet offensive, while it made some ground, was slower and less decisive than had been hoped for, while French resistance proved more fragile than expected despite this massive distraction in the east. France eventually fell on 3 December 1940.

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This set the scene for the industrial scale slaughter in eastern Europe and the Balkans for the following two years.

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The Sweep of War – December 1940 to December 1942

The following maps show changes in the front lines from year to year since December 1940.

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On the Patriotic Front, by 31 December 1940 the Soviets and Romanians still held footholds in East Prussia, German-occupied Poland and a large swathe of Hungary. The Yeniçeri Line was holding in former Yugoslavia. But with the flow of armoured units in particular from France to the east, these lines were all pushed back considerably by December 1941.

In 1942, Turkey clawed back much ground in the Adriatic-Sava River sector, west of Beograd. Romania lost some ground, but stayed largely stable. The Soviets at first lost much ground in Ukraine, but had made most of it back by December 1942, with Kyiv lost then regained. Not so in the centre and especially the north, where the Germans had made their biggest gains, including the recent capture of Leningrad.

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The Far East had been a sorry tale for most of the war, as the Japanese and their henchmen advanced relentlessly for the best part of two years, until the latter part of 1942 when this encroachment was slowed down and even pushed back in some areas. Afghanistan had unwisely entered the war on the side of the Axis, but then been defeated by Turkish and Soviet forces.

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In North Africa, there had been wild swings of fortune. In December 1940, the British had been on the cusp of expelling the Italians from Libya entirely, their advance making it just short of Tripoli. But the Fall of France and a failure to provide adequate forces and supplies had seen the Italians advance all the way to Cairo and Alexandria by December 1941, both of which they briefly occupied at separate times. But some British (and Allied) reinforcements and a suspected collapse in Italian supply lines had seen the Axis advance halted and then thrown back to where it is now – between Tobruk and Bengasi. During these years, the British had sunk every major ship of the Italian Navy and the vast majority of their smaller vessels and transports.

NB: The Japanese had run riot in South East Asia and advanced in the Pacific in the last year, but current progress has been covered sufficiently in recent updates.

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Annual Naval Report

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These tables show the recorded naval losses of all major combatants in Great War Two in 1942 and the totals to date since the start of the war. The US has not yet suffered any ships sunk.

Japan and the UK suffered the most losses in 1942, especially of Major Fleet Units. Italy’s losses were mainly in destroyers and especially transports, which they continued to build – and sacrifice. But Italy has still lost by far the most vessels of any power so far in the war.

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1942 – Highlights

Part One: On the Defensive (Jan-Jun 42)

Making newspaper headlines in early 1942 was the ‘Big Four’ meeting in Tehran. The professed to have plans in place to defeat all Axis forces. But how far would the year take those plans?

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There had been some limited success and a breakout by Turkey in the Wolf Pack offensive of summer 1941 (fought mainly to distract the Axis and save Romania). But a vicious Axis counter-offensive had followed, which not only pushed Turkish forces back to their start line, but had then rolled them further back to a new line based on rivers, mountains and hills, from the Adriatic, through Beograd and along the Danube to the Romanian border.

Early April saw the Axis once again putting very heavy pressure on the Turkish line in the Adriatic sector. This culminated in fierce battles for the ‘Three Ps’ which ended between 6-9 April 1942 in hard-fought victories for the Turkish-led Comintern forces. In these three major battles alone, Turkish losses were around 4,300, while the Axis lost over 9,000 killed.

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Meanwhile, in Russia, the further loss of ground to the German led to Stalin declaring their ‘Great Patriotic War’ on 12 April. Axis pressure on all parts of the Front was building, while the Japanese still ran riot in the east. An almost-disastrous confusion of Soviet objectives and strategic redeployment between the two fronts occurred in the middle of the year and took some time to sort out, briefly threatening the collapse of both.

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Another feature of 1942 was repeated large-scale Axis attacks on Beograd, seeking force the Sava and Danube rivers and take the symbolic and material centre of Turkish resistance in the Balkans. Some of these attacks came closer to success than others, but they were almost always very expensive for the Axis.

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Axis pressure was still being applied – and successfully resisted – in Pozega and Podgorica in early May.

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And the Axis were handed another large butcher’s bill in early June from a big attack on Beograd.

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Part Two: Turkish Summer Offensive and the Adriatic Pocket

In early July, the Axis were the ones being subjected to pressure as the Turkish Summer Offensive of 1942 began in the Adriatic sector. It aimed to push back the Axis line and see if some divisions could be surrounded and eliminated in the process. 4 July saw an Axis attack on Pljevlja (3 Mtn Div to the fore again) beaten off with heavy casualties, while the Battle of Danilovgrad was one of the first major successes of the new Turkish push.

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With Turkish air support now possible from more and improved licence-built aircraft (which had seen some epic air duels over the span of the year), the Summer Offensive gathered steam. Steady advances were being made and a major victory at Ljubinje on 24 July plus progress to its north was setting the scene for a major encirclement operation.

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But the Turkish armoured thrust to the north along the Sava River finally met strong resistance in Gradiska, where 2 Mot Div tried and failed to gain a prized river crossing after a bloody solo attempt was called off on 17 August, as Axis reinforcements began to arrive from other sectors of the line along the Sava River.

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It was at this time that a vile Axis assassination plot, involving the Gestapo, fronted by Italian and Slovakian agents and a Mafia ‘consultant’, was aimed at President Inönü. He narrowly avoided death but was incapacitated for some hours. Hitler misread the situation and foolishly claimed the great man had been killed.

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The Turkish President soon proved otherwise, appearing in public in Moscow for another Anti-Fascist Coalition meeting a short time later. Much to Stalin’s pleasure and Hitler’s humiliation.

At the front, 26 August saw a large group of enemy units cut-off in Split, but the Axis had taken advantage of the diversion of forces and the arrival of their own reinforcements to start a series of major counter-attacks along the Sava River. They may not have been able to save their surrounded comrades, but they presented a real danger to the line west of Beograd when Doboj was forced, opening a gap in the Turkish lines.

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But victory in Split on 29 August meant many formations could now be released to stop Axis counter-attacks and plug large gaps in the line to its north and along the Sava.

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Estimated Axis troop losses in the ‘Adriatic Pocket’ approached 50,000 men captured, in addition to those killed in the fighting for it.

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Part Three: Securing the Sava

The successful closing of the Adriatic Pocket had left other parts of the line weakened until those units could be redeployed. But Turkey was determined not to suffer the same reverses as had occurred after the equivalent 1941 offensive, which had seen the loss of Timisoara (a Romanian city soaked in the blood of Turkish martyrs and forever in the memory of all Turkish patriots) and much other ground. By early September, Doboj had just been retaken and now it was time for an all-in battle to regain Tuzla. A decisive victory came there on 9 September.

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But the Axis was not done yet, a pitched battle for Banja Luka being lost on 13 September, while Bosanski Petrovac was under air and ground attack.

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Pressure further west at Ubdina, the coastal anchor point of the new line, was resisted though, the Axis suffering a bloody repulse there on 26 September.

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And three days later, a very determined attempt by German-led Axis forces to retake the recently secured Tuzla was beaten off, again with heavy enemy casualties.

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The line was substantially secured by 2 October, with Turkish IS-2s from 15 Inf Div out-matching the medium tanks of 7 Pz Div in Banja Luka, where a hard-fought victory to regain it was won.

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But the Axis was not quite done yet: they too wished to straighten their lines and they succeeded in doing that in Bosanski Petrovac on 6 October, just as Banja Luka was being reoccupied. Turkish casualties in a stubborn but doomed defence were among the highest they had suffered in any battle since 1936.

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And another serious attack on Beograd cost both sides heavily in late October, requiring the garrison there to be topped up again.

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While Tuzla also remained a popular Axis target, with a new six-division attack finally defeated on 4 November.

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Part Four: Operation Frost Wolf

As the Turks saw Leningrad under dire threat and were considering a surprise opportunistic winter offensive in early December, the scene was partly set when the Axis launched a major and bloody attempt to retake Banja Luka. Over 3,200 Axis troops died trying, up against a formidable defence, the attack failing on 3 December.

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This was followed by yet another Axis attack on Tuzla, which also failed with heavy losses on both sides, but the Axis again losing more than twice the numbers the Comintern defenders had.

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The Turks had now begun gathering forces for a mechanised thrust along the south bank of the Sava from Banja Luka, where the Axis defenders were still recovering from their defeat earlier in the month, while the rest of their line in that sector looked thinner than it had been for some time.

The push began on 10 December and, as we have seen recently, the ‘left hook’ to the coast raced along – but on a necessarily narrow front, with an exposed flank along the Sava River. It was there German armour finally forced its way across to cut the supply lines and open a narrow corridor to the two German divisions trapped in the pocket. But in just an hour on 29 December, the resolution of four separate battles looked to have ‘righted the ship’ for Turkey, beating back three counter-attacks, defeating Rommel in Perusic (those four results shown below) and then winning the battle for the German bridgehead at Novi Grad – though it had not yet been reoccupied as 1942 came to a close.

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Naturally, this did not stop the Istanbul Times from claiming a great victory. It now remained for the Turkish Army to make the headlines true.

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The map below shows how far Turkey had advanced in the Adriatic sector since the beginning of the year, when the Yeniçeri Line had been pushed well back south of Beograd.

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Now, the Frost Wolf offensive was almost completed: the retaking of Novi Grad and holding it and the rest of the perimeter while the two encircled German divisions were eliminated was the last unfinished business. A probe on Lussino (a cross-strait attack) had not yet shown it would be successful, while German Tiger tanks still led an attack on the pivot point of Vrnograc. And the northern line of the salient still needed to be secured.

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Coming Up: As the Turkish War Cabinet prepared a New Year’s Day strategic direction meeting, a range of choices lay ahead of them. Continue along the Adriatic-Sava line of advance, where Ljubljana might be liberated and even Italian Trieste taken against as-yet flimsy opposition? Consolidate instead and perhaps prepare a different attack across the Sava below Zagreb for another possible encirclement? Or a completely new operation, perhaps closer to Romania, aimed at relieving pressure on Beograd, threatening Hungary’s heartland and allowing a Soviet-Romanian push to liberate northern Romania?

There was also the question of whether - and if so how and where - to deploy the building strategic reserve of the Turkish-American Marine Corps. Crossing rivers in the Balkans in a new operation (for which weather and thus timing would need to be considered)? Or for a raid-in-force against Italian interests in North Africa, whether on Bengasi (a defended location) or even further west? Production, research and espionage matters could also be reviewed and considered.

Much advice had already been sought from consultants and advisers [NB: thanks to all those who have already provided assessments: @diskoerekto; @Wraith11B; @TheButterflyComposer; @nuclearslurpee; @roverS3; @smatsik ]. Those and any further submissions following this annual report to Cabinet Members will be analysed together, in the lead-up to the Cabinet Meeting of 1 January 1943. Also, any further map, screen, unit or equipment etc requests people may have are welcome. The Cabinet Secretary can put out such supplementary info before the Cabinet Meeting if advisers request it.
 
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I've never played a HOI game, but I'm liking the idea of a Romanian push. It's close enough that there doesn't seem to be risk on the scale of Sicily, but just far enough that it might relieve pressure on Russia and maybe even a little on the Frost Wolf front? But I don't really know what I'm talking about.
 
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I've never played a HOI game, but I'm liking the idea of a Romanian push. It's close enough that there doesn't seem to be risk on the scale of Sicily, but just far enough that it might relive pressure on Russia and maybe even a little on the Frost Wolf front? But I don't really know what I'm talking about.
Don't sell yourself short :): the game mechanics are a close enough analogue to the war to allow general strategic suggestions and observations. Your suggestion is a valid one and welcomed. :cool:
 
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But the initial Soviet offensive, while it made some ground, was slower and less decisive than had been hoped for, while French resistance proved more fragile than expected despite this massive distraction in the east. France eventually fell on 3 December 1940.

Still the lasted nearly a year against overwhelming odds and were completely left alone to die by their own allies. Disgraceful stuff.

The following maps show changes in the front lines from year to year since December 1940.

Certainly clear progression for Germany, but glacial really. Japan did a much better job albeit with no defence whatsoever. Still, they need to be rolled back now, or at least halted all this year.

Romania remains over half occupied, which really underlines how much we need to finish the job of getting our border back and then smashing the Hungarians out of Romania and as far away from Russia as possible. Italy can wait compared to securing our puppet and ally here.

In North Africa, there had been wild swings of fortune.

That is certainly dramatic and absurd.

These tables show the recorded naval losses of all major combatants in Great War Two in 1942 and the totals to date since the start of the war. The US has not yet suffered any ships sunk.

Still, Japan must be running low on ships by now. That or have spent the last few years making nothing but boats whilst leaving their army to use twigs.
 
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and a chance to ponder what may follow in the Balkans for Turkey in 1943.
Tokyo or bust baby

The following maps show changes in the front lines from year to year since December 1940.

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Until now, I had not truly realized just how much groundwe'd managed to retake from the Axis scum. Regaining our pre-war borders may be more realistic than I'd expected in the near future.

As the Turkish War Cabinet prepared a New Year’s Day strategic direction meeting, a range of choices lay ahead of them. Continue along the Adriatic-Sava line of advance, where Ljubljana might be liberated and even Italian Trieste taken against as-yet flimsy opposition? Consolidate instead and perhaps prepare a different attack across the Sava below Zagreb for another possible encirclement? Or a completely new operation, perhaps closer to Romania, aimed at relieving pressure on Beograd, threatening Hungary’s heartland and allowing a Soviet-Romanian push to liberate northern Romania?
I don't think we have the static infantry capacity to keep pushing through the Sava/Adriatic intermediate region while manning the flanks. Even this latest operation has shown that we no longer have the infantry reserves to hold flanks for a very limited encirclement campaign. I believe that the better play here is to push from the center and east parts of our line up to the former UGNR-Hungarian border in a general offensive, turning the Axis flank bordering the Romanian front and threatening Hungary proper. Meanwhile, we can build up our reserves and mobile forces for an offensive in 1944 that should reclaim our entire pre-war border and threaten the Austrian heartlands.

There was also the question of whether - and if so how and where - to deploy the building strategic reserve of the Turkish-American Marine Corps. Crossing rivers in the Balkans in a new operation (for which weather and thus timing would need to be considered)? Or for a raid-in-force against Italian interests in North Africa, whether on Bengasi (a defended location) or even further west? Production, research and espionage matters could also be reviewed and considered.
I think we need to use these marines to establish river crossings in central ex-Yugoslavia as our priority mission here. There's no serious reasons to consider Mediterranean operations with our forces stretched as thin as they are after Operation Frost Wolf, we need every division available on the Balkans front this year. Only once Hungary has been overrun and the Comintern is carrying out a broad front offensive can we really consider diverting forces to secondary attacks such as landings in Italy.
 
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I think anything in the Med is a distraction.

I wonder if there is any chance to create another pocket elsewhere on the front, by attacking northward and then turning left or right and back?
 
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What's going on in Sinmiolaus? A revolt?

But I digress, I replied to this screenshot because this is where I think we can do our next offensive. I'd really love to go for Ljubljana or Zagreb but lengthening the front further will tie our hands for the offensive after the next one since all we have would be busy holding the line. If we gain some ground here, we can free some divisions for future offensives as well.

My proposal begins with taking a bridgehead on the other side if the river, wherever the enemy line is weakest (or battle weary). For instance, we attack directly to the north of Velico Gradiste (while making attacks to the provinces to its sides to keep the others busy and not able to begin a spoling attack). At the moment there seems to be a lot of divisions there, but we don't know what they're consisting of so this is just theorizing. After taking the bridgehead, we strike Caransebes with all 3 of the MTN divisions that we have. and turn east to meet with our comrades in Petrosani. I'm guessing we'll pocket some divisions in as well. Regarding Romanian (and Soviet) units will be holding the line in Romanian territory, this will free us 2-3 province worth of units for the next offensive.

One side benefit of this will be that, since the Balkan provinces are non-core annexed territory it gives half of the resources and (as far as I know) an even less percentage of the leadership to us. But any province we liberate are core Romanian provinces so they'll get the full benefit. There are some enemy held resourceful Romanian provinces close to the front which makes them gettable. Speaking of which, is it possible to tag to Romania to give us a glimpse of what they've been up to? Production, tech, army composition etc. Since they're our puppet I think this wouldn't be out of RP as well :)

About the Marines, if the weather is ok to do so, they can spearhead the river crossing so the other units can just pour in and keep moving without having the "just fought 4 days ago" blockage. If that means we'll have to delay the operation, a "get-in, bag italian divisions, paint map, get out without leaving garrison" operation can be done in Libya instead.
 
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What's going on in Sinmiolaus? A revolt?
Just quickly: no, German possession (from memory, or possibly Slovakian) when all around is Hungarian. One of those little map quirks. ;)

Agree re Romania - I’m happy to do that (for info only) for any of the Comintern countries. Will put a small ‘dossier’ together for Cabinet consideration. :)
 
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