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The Romanian part of the front doesn't look as good as it should. If only the soviets had left one of those sibirian-marching corps at home... I hope they will arrive in time to save the far east soviet troops.

Improving First Aid seems to be a very good idea.
You are so right about Romania. I had been banking on a decent showing from them to help knock out Hungary early - instead we get them stuck in no mans land for months. I don’t think they’ll add much in the Far East unfortunately- quicker and more efficient if the Soviets had used newly built units over there rather than trekking Romanians all the way over! But that kind of AI silliness is what I signed up for by being a junior faction partner :(
 
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Şanlı Gerçek was one of the other options the dreaded Google translate offered up. I want the title to be fictitious and the government is still a strange mixture of paternalistic right wing autocracy and commitment to the Comintern without actually (in game) being Communist. No realistic logic to that, but it’s what the game mechanics puts up and the result of where I’ve pushed it. How about Şanlı Ülkü? I want to maintain the ‘glory’ motif in it.

In fact, a strange mixture of paternalistic right wing autocracy and socialism has had huge influence on Turkey even to this day and that is quite realistic. Comintern commitment is the only fantasy part because of centuries of warfare with Russia. I mean having a strange mixture is very realistic, only the ingredients are swapped (paternalist non socialist Comintern instead of paternalist non comintern socialist). Having said that, Şanlı Ülkü would be a very fitting name for this school of thought.

OK, the Air Force for Turkey in-game starts at zero tech and doctrine levels and aircraft are very expensive to build as well. Navy too. A decision was taken to concentrate on the land forces tech, doctrine and production and then rely on licenses for any more air units. Had to get close enough to the Soviets to buy the licenses, wait for something that was worth buying then be able to afford it. There is one licensed Soviet fighter wing in production - it certainly would be nice to have more.

It would certainly be nice to have more for gameplay purposes, but also for role playing reasons. This secular paternalist kinda socialist cadres of the young republic were completely smitten by airplanes and it was the consensus that wars would be won or lost by air power. One of Atatürk’s more famous quotes is “Future is in the skies”. There was both military and civilian struggles to obtain aerial know how and planes themselves. There were also some quite successful planes like Nu.D.38 in that time period and Vecihi Hürkuş (surname given by Ataturk himself which means Freebird) is a legend although with a sad story himself.

So I believe those guys would at least buy all the licenses they could reasonably afford if research is out of the question which seems to be the situation. Also, Vecihi can be a good character in the role playing part of the AAR.

Also, until a few game months ago, we thought we’d be defending in depth on fortified lines (the Bosphorus and southern Greece) with fixed heavy AA, but took the risk to defend forward without that cover when the opportunity came to drag the Soviets in and see if France could be kept in the war. The cost is not being able to do much about Axis air superiority at the moment :eek:.

Thanks for the active involvement - greatly appreciated :)

I enjoy reading and getting involved, keep up the good work :)
 
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In fact, a strange mixture of paternalistic right wing autocracy and socialism has had huge influence on Turkey even to this day and that is quite realistic. Comintern commitment is the only fantasy part because of centuries of warfare with Russia. I mean having a strange mixture is very realistic, only the ingredients are swapped (paternalist non socialist Comintern instead of paternalist non comintern socialist). Having said that, Şanlı Ülkü would be a very fitting name for this school of thought.



It would certainly be nice to have more for gameplay purposes, but also for role playing reasons. This secular paternalist kinda socialist cadres of the young republic were completely smitten by airplanes and it was the consensus that wars would be won or lost by air power. One of Atatürk’s more famous quotes is “Future is in the skies”. There was both military and civilian struggles to obtain aerial know how and planes themselves. There were also some quite successful planes like Nu.D.38 in that time period and Vecihi Hürkuş (surname given by Ataturk himself which means Freebird) is a legend although with a sad story himself.

So I believe those guys would at least buy all the licenses they could reasonably afford if research is out of the question which seems to be the situation. Also, Vecihi can be a good character in the role playing part of the AAR.



I enjoy reading and getting involved, keep up the good work :)
Thanks again - Şanlı Ülkü sounds good. I’ll have to give you an in-game cameo role somewhere perhaps in the political affairs section of the PM’s department. If you want to pick a Turkish nom de guerre or alias I’d be happy to include it. And if you don’t mind notionally working for Bayar ;)
 
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Out by a decade. Britain went off gold in 1914, the Bank of England correctly believing Kitchener over the politicians and expecting a long and expensive war. The then Chancellor Churchill put the country back on gold in 1925 which, even by his own high standards of bad decision making, was a bloody stupid decision. The departure in 1931 fixed that and Britain never officially returned to the gold standard.

I suppose you could argue that Bretton Woods was a return to a gold standard of sorts, but that was all tied up with the IMF and floating currency bands and so on. In any even that was negotiated in 1944 for a post-WW2 start.

Ah...was this covered in Butterfly perchance? I seem to recall it from somewhere, alongside the good chancellor's disarmament campaign. So, anyway, good economic fiscal policy and a healthy huge pile of Spanish gold to use in an international European war...perhaps some things should never change.

Romania is doing alright considering its being pulled theee different ways by two more powerful empires. Hungary amazes me with its resilience but I suppose all it really means is that in the post war peace, they'll have to rebuild their entire country having watch it get stomped flat as they forced the communists to trample over every square inch.
 
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Chapter 95: Testing Times (15 to 30 September 1940) – Part 2
Chapter 95: Testing Times (15 to 30 September 1940) – Part 2

As promised, here is the second part of Chapter 95. I’ve also brought forward a bit of narrative as there was less battle-related text in this part.

Prologue – Switzerland

Later on the same night of the Tattaglia’s hit on Vatan ‘Vito’ Ceylan, Carlo Rizzi is talking to the guys that did the hit.

“Are you sure you got him?” he asks.

“Well boss, we put at least five shots into him, he must be dead. He looked dead to me.” The other wise guy nods. “But his driver was coming out with a gun, so we didn’t hang around to see.” Fortunately, they didn’t realise it was the bumbling Fredo – they thought it would have been a trained body guard, so had made their getaway.

“Well, you guys had better be right, or we’re in a lot of trouble.” If Sonny has anything to do about it, they will be in trouble either way!

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Back at the Embassy, Sonny is gathered with First Counsellor Tom Heygan and Polat Cumali (Head of Embassy Security).

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Polat Cumali, head of security at the Turkish Embassy. And old-school S.I.T.H. operative.

The phone rings again. This time it is Fredo, calling from the hospital. “He’s still alive, but they’re not sure if he’s gonna pull through. He’s in a coma right now.”

“Those bastards. I’m gonna kill that little pr!ck Rizzi, then the rest of the Tattaglia pezzonovante," Sonny is not a happy man. “Polat, get Cennet over there to keep an eye on the Old Man. She can pretend she’s a nurse or somethin'. If these guys find out he’s still alive, they’ll send someone to finish the job. Even with Swiss security around.”

“Sonny,” says Tom. “Let’s just think calmly now. Cable Ankara for instructions. And don’t make any hasty moves. The Ambassador is still our boss. He may pull through.”

“Yeah Sonny,” chimes in Cumali. “It's a lot of bad blood, on both sides. The Ambassador, Sollozzo, Luca Brasi, Altobello, Vinny, Lucchesi ... they even tried to whack the Pope and President Atatürk. And they had plans to hit the Milli Şef!”

“It's gone too far - I think it's become too personal,” finishes Tom.

“Well, maybe, we’ll see.” Sonny pauses. “Tom, you’re First Counsellor, I’m just acting head of the European Espionage Section. Now what do we do if the old man dies, God forbid.”

“Nobody wants bloodshed anymore. If your father dies, we should make the deal, Sonny.”

“That's easy for you to say, Tom, he's not your father!”

“I'm as much a son to him as you or Fredo.”

All they can do for now is wait. For instructions from Ankara and to see whether the Ambassador survives the assassination attempt.

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Europe

The strategic map below shows current positions, with the dotted lines representing the situation as it stood at midnight on 14 September. The arrows (red for the Axis, blue for the Allies and Comintern) give an idea of both ground gained and the balance of fighting on both fronts. Clearly, things are grimmer again in the West, more balanced but slightly in the Comintern’s favour in the East. Let us look at each in more detail, as at midnight on 30 September 1940.

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Edit: missed this map when I first uploaded.

Eastern Front

In the north, the Soviets have managed to hang onto Memel. To the south of that, the Germans have retaken much of the land they lost to the Soviets in the previous period, but the Red Army does seem to be counter-attacking. And they managed to hold Gumbinnen and take the East Prussian province of Lötzen to the south of that. Honours roughly even after some heavy fighting.

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In the Polish sector, the Soviets have expanded their Bug River bridgehead to the north and south. While the Germans were able to form a new front to protect Lublin and to its south, the Soviets man the front in strength and could potentially exert more pressure as autumn turns gradually to winter.

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On the Hungarian-Romanian-Slovakian sector, the Red Army once again occupies Humenne, in reasonable strength this time, but the Germans are counter-attacking it from the west. Axis forces have pushed back the Soviet salient in eastern Hungary that had threated Kosice two weeks ago. However, the Romanians have retaken and stabilised their border further south, where for a while Hungary had occupied two of their provinces (one – Oradea - from the previous period, another – Arad - lost and retaken in the last week). The Romanians would be doing better than this had a large part of their army not been sent east by the STAVKA – where they are lost in transit, not contributing to anything yet.

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A quick look at the air war for the last seven days on the Eastern Front is a good indicator of the intensity of major combat. Interestingly, of the four major areas of recent combat, the Polish Sector has not seen any recent air action. Perhaps both sides there have been consolidating over the last week.

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Western Front

The overall situation on the Western Front took a turn for the worse in the last part of September. Having been holding reasonably solidly for the previous few weeks, the Germans have generated a couple of effective offensives, with one aimed like a dagger at Paris, where they are now on its outskirts. The French are now receiving lend lease support from not only the UK, but also our Soviet comrades – who are giving them (18.4 IC) more than they are giving us (13.0 IC). Though the French really do need it. Still no sign of any BEF at all.

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We will concentrate first on the Paris sector, as it is crucial to the wider war effort and our prospects in the East and in the Med. German medium panzer divisions have taken four provinces to the north of Paris in the last two weeks, including Beauvais, which now directly threatens Paris itself – which does not yet look very heavily defended. That French tank division is actually headed south-west to Versailles! To the south-east of Paris, a German infantry division serving (somewhat mystifyingly) under Slovakian command has taken Joigny.

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The French have also provided some battle reports for actions in progress as at midnight.
  • Of concern, the battle for Neufchatel en Bray is already over, with the 51st Inf Div retreating (although in good order) to Rouen, where there is a river line defence, though no solid defence in place yet.

  • The Germans are also attacking Meaux, to the north-east of Paris, where the 10th Pz Div has almost overcome the defending French 21st Inf Div. That will give the Germans a second flank on Paris, although also over a river.

  • But to the east of Paris, in Jouarre, the French are mounting a strong counter-attack against the 12th Pz Div, though its chances look about 50/50. And it risks diverting forces from the defence of Paris.

  • And then we travel south to Sens, where the German 2nd Pz Div is attacking the French 24th Inf Div – and well on its way to winning that battle.
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The Maginot Sector is looking a little better, though that may be because the Germans are reserving their main effort for Paris. Xertigny was lost earlier in the month, but the rest of this part of the line holds.

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The French appear to be putting in two counter-attacks here, but have either not made contact yet or the opposition is retreating before combat, which seems unlikely. 41st Inf Div is trying to retake the key centre of Troyes, while the 1st Inf Div attacks Xertigny, which both sides seem intent to hold.

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The report on the air war in France over the last week tells its own tale. The bulk of the French Air Force is stationed in Paris in three Groups totalling seven wings of INT and TAC. A few of them are heavily damaged from recent air battles and attacks on Jouarre, where the French have been counter-attacking. To the south-east (off-map), another group of mixed aircraft types is based in Besancon and looks to have been contesting the skies over the Joigny salient.

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This is all looking pretty worrying, as the French head into a dangerous October.

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Naval Report

All the recorded naval losses in the period 15-30 September were incurred by Italy! The Regia Marina has had a hard time of it, at the hands of the British Royal Navy. They have lost a battleship, two light cruisers, two troop transports and three submarine flotillas!

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The Giovanni dalle Bande Nere was an Italian light cruiser of the Giussano class. Her keel was laid down in 1928; she was launched on 27 April 1930, and her construction was completed in 1931. She displaced 6,571 tons at standard load and had a main armament of eight 152 mm (6 in) guns in four twin mountings. Sunk by the HMS Suffolk (CA) in September 1940.

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Bartolomeo Colleoni was another Italian Giussano class light cruiser. Laid down in June 1928; launched in December 1930 and commissioned on 10 February 1932. Same specifications as its sister ship, the Bande Nere, above. This picture was taken of the ship as it was sinking, downed at the hands of the HMS Queen Elizabeth (BB) in September 1940.

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Vittorio Veneto was the second member of the Littorio class battleships in the Italian Regia Marina (Royal Navy) that served during Great War II. The ship's keel was laid down in October 1934, launched in July 1937, and readied for service with the Italian fleet by August 1940. She was armed with a main battery of nine 381-millimeter (15.0 in) guns in three triple turrets, with a standard displacement of 41,376 tons. Seen here (foreground) firing in the engagement at which it was later sunk, in September 1940, with the HMS Cumberland (CA) claiming the final honours. This huge and modern battleship is by far the most significant Axis naval loss of the war so far. It did not even last two months after its launch!

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North Africa

The Italians make slow progress, while the French forces remaining in Tunis (three HQs and a light mobile division of one CAV and one MOT brigade) remain in situ.

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The Iraqis have overrun the Italians in eastern Libya and have a militia division surrounded in Bengasi.

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Far East

One week on from the last report (in Part 1) from the Far East, neither of the Japanese pincers threatening to cut off the bulk of the Soviets Far Eastern armies have closed yet (via Fevral’sk and Solnechny), but the Japanese are putting the squeeze on the Soviet 24th Army still in full retreat from its failed defence of Vladivostok. In one small victory, part of the salient from Manchuria has been pushed back by Soviet troops at Solov’evsk.

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And Japan and Manchukuo (with a number of Japanese units under command in Manchukuo colours) continue to spread through Mongolia and have reached Lake Bailkal, dividing Comintern forces to the north and south of it.

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A bleak picture to be sure, but not as immediately dangerous or important as that in France.

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Epilogue – Ankara, a Coffee Shop

Our two Foreign Ministry officials are back, sharing their habitual coffee and baklava, near the Ministry in Ankara. The first mentions a snippet of conversation he had recorded of President Inönü, talking to his Cabinet colleagues, after sentencing the traitors, given as he set off to the front to take command of the Turkish 1st Army in the Great Liberation War.

He reads from a speech of Inönü’s to his colleagues at the time. “’Now, for the front; the enterprise which shall be to you, as me, glorious. We doubt not of a fair and lucky war, since God so graciously has brought to light this dangerous treason lurking in our way, to hinder our beginnings. We doubt not now but every rub is smoothed on our way. Then forth, dear countrymen: let us deliver our puissance into the hand of God, putting it straight in expedition. Cheerily to the north; the signs of war advance: No President of Turkey, if not conqueror of Germany!’”

“So inspired, no doubt our armed forces were bound to stride manfully along the Path to Glory,” says the first official. Loudly, for the benefit of any of Kaya's listeners. “And I believe this struck some fear and consternation in our sausage-eating enemy!”

“And so it did, my good friend, so it did,” says the second official. “We have a report from our Soviet brethren of a meeting of the enemy leadership some time after the declaration of war on them by us and the Soviet Union. Our President had sent a demand he knew they would reject, but was determined to counter the insult offered by the bratwurst-purveying Deputy Führer Hess.”

“Oh really? Do tell!”

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In late July, Adolf Hitler was meeting with Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess and Reichsmarschall des Grossdeutschen Reiches (Reich Marshal of the Greater German Reich) Hermann Goering in the Albert Speer-designed New Reich Chancellery (Reichskanzlei) in Berlin.

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The New Reich Chancellery (Reichskanzlei) on the corner of Voßstraße and Wilhelmstraße in Berlin.

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They gather in the New Reich Chancellery's Reich government chamber, with other advisers and counsellors.

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Hermann Wilhelm Göring (b.12 January 1893). A veteran Great War I fighter pilot ace, he was a recipient of the Pour le Mérite. He was the last commander of Jagdgeschwader 1, the fighter wing once led by Manfred von Richthofen. An early member of the Nazi Party, Göring was among those wounded in Adolf Hitler's failed Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. After holding very senior roles in the Nazi-led Government from 1933, on 19 July 1940 Hitler appointed him as Reich Marshal of the Greater German Reich. He is viewed at this time as the third most senior official in the Government, after Hitler and Hess.

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Hitler speaks. “Thus come the Soviets and Turks with full power upon us and more than carefully we must answer to our defences. Therefore you, Hess, with all swift dispatch, ensure our means of war are in good repair, with men of courage and with means to defend in the East. For Turkey and the Soviets make their approaches as fierce as waters to the sucking of a gulf. It fits us then to be as provident as fear may teach us out of late examples left by the fatal and neglected Turks upon the field of battle.”

“My most redoubted Führer,” replies Hess. “It is most appropriate we arm us against the foe. For peace itself should not so dull the Reich. We will finish the French then teach the Communists a stern lesson. The Reich’s defences, musters and preparations will be maintained, assembled and collected. I say we should all go forth to view the sick and feeble Turkey: and let us do it with no show of fear; no, with no more than if we heard that Turkey were busied with a folk-dance. For, my good Führer, it is so idly led, by a vain, giddy, shallow, humorous ‘President’.”

“O peace, Hess!” interjects Göring. “You are too much mistaken in this Milli Şef. What report did your ambassadors provide when you moved to insult Inönü? With what great state he heard their embassy, how well supplied with noble counsellors, how modest in exception, and withal how terrible in constant resolution. You shall find his vanities and isolationism are things of the past.”

“Well, it’s not so, my Reichsmarschall des Grossdeutschen Reiches. But though we think it so, it does not matter: in cases of defence it is best to weigh the enemy more mighty than he seems: so the proportions of defence are filled.”

“I think Inönü strong,” states Hitler. “Look you strongly arm to meet him. And Stalin is bred out of that bloody strain that haunted us in during the Great War and carried out their Boshevik revolution. He was witness to our much memorable shame when Germany was betrayed and surrendered. The Allies mangled the work of nature and defaced the patterns set by Fate and by German fathers, these twenty years past.”

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They are interrupted by a messenger, one of Hitler’s adjutants. He clicks his heels and salutes. “Mein Führer, we have a communique from the Turks!”

“We'll see it. Bring it to me.”

While the message is brought over, Hess fills the pause with an acerbic comment. “Coward dogs bark loudest when they seem to threaten. My good Führer, take up the Turks short and let them know of what a Reich you are the head: self-love, my Führer, is not so vile a sin as self-neglecting.” There is not much chance Hitler will disagree with such advice!

Hitler directs the messenger to give Inönü's communique to Hess, who he orders to read it aloud to the others.

Hess begins reading. “'In the name of God Almighty' Inönü says here, 'divest yourself and lay apart the borrowed glories that by gift of heaven, by law of nature and of nations, of that leadership of Germany that you have usurped and all wide-stretched honours that pertain by custom and the ordinance of times to the rule of Germany. That you may know this is no sinister nor awkward claim, picked from the worm-holes of long-vanished days, nor from the dust of old oblivion raked, I bid you then resign your leadership and Reich, unjustly held from the People, who through the Comintern are the native and true leaders of Germany.’”

“Or else what follows?” asks Hitler.

Hess skips to that part of the note that refers to the consequences of rejection. “’If you reject this demand, bloody constraint will follow. For if you hide even the pretension of Nazi dictatorship in your hearts, the Comintern will rake for it. Therefore, in fierce tempest we are coming, in thunder and in earthquake, like a Jove that, if you fail to comply, will compel. I bid you, deliver up the leadership to the Proletariat and take mercy on the poor souls for whom this hungry war opens his vast jaws on your head, turning the widows' tears, the orphans' cries, the dead men's blood, the pining maiden’s groans, for husbands, fathers and betrothed lovers, that shall be swallowed in this controversy. This is my claim, my threatening and my message.’”

“Is there more, Hess?” demands Hitler, now simmering with barely restrained rage.

“There is, my Führer, but I care not to read it!” Hess is clearly discomforted.

“Here, give it to me Hess,” says Göring, as he impatiently snatches the note and begins reading. “’To the Deputy Führer I expressly bring greeting too. To him, scorn and defiance; slight regard, and contempt I give. Thus I say if your Führer does not, in grant of all demands at large, sweeten the bitter mock you sent me, I will call you to so hot an answer of it, that the people in the streets and beer halls of Germany shall chide your trespass and return your mock to second my words. Dispatch your response with all speed, or I will come there myself to question your delay; for I am on my way to your land already.’”

“I did mock him with a consignment of bratwurst in match for the esteem in which we hold him,” confesses Hess.

“And I find no fault in you for doing so, Hess.” Hitler is now clearly infuriated with this missive from the ‘Milli Şef’. “This Inönü is clearly but a barking lap-dog to his master, Stalin, who is more worthy of our respect than this Turkish upstart. A Second Great War it will be then, but this time it will be the Reich that triumphs. It is our Destiny!”

“Heil Hitler!” call Hess and Göring as they salute in unison, to indicate their fulsome agreement. They and the rest of the Nazi regime apparatus head off to redouble the war effort that had originally been geared only to the invasion of France.

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Coming Up: a hard year drags itself into October. Will the Battle of Senta end in victory – or will those Hungarian divisions reappear? Will France survive until the end of the month? Can Germany impose their Führer’s ‘Destiny’ on their old enemy? If they do, what will that mean for the Comintern in the East? And will the Soviets lose the bulk of their Far Eastern forces? If so, they will take a lot of replacing and the second front there will absorb men and resources they would rather apply to the Germans. The attacks on the north of the Yeniçeri Line are getting more substantial – can the Axis get sufficient forces together to actually punch a hole in it? It seems the time for any grand offensive to seize Budapest is some time off – with much of the Romanian Army off on other duties and the Soviets not sending the forces needed to support such an operation. For now, until the winter at least, Turkey is busy just helping the Romanians to hold their line. Will the Powers-that-Be like the new name for the tabloid rag they plan to publish on Republic Day? And will Vito Ceylan survive, will Ankara let Sonny loose and will Sonny be able to hold his temper? All this and more in forthcoming episodes.
 
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Thanks again - Şanlı Ülkü sounds good. I’ll have to give you an in-game cameo role somewhere perhaps in the political affairs section of the PM’s department. If you want to pick a Turkish nom de guerre or alias I’d be happy to include it. And if you don’t mind notionally working for Bayar ;)

Hahaha this sounds great regarding Bayar was the leader of the market friendly "Business bank clique" who later started the evil right wing party and a boss my hardcore communist character Hikmet Cengiz Alabalık will secretly despise. ;)
 
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Hahaha this sounds great regarding Bayar was the leader of the market friendly "Business bank clique" who later started the evil right wing party and a boss my hardcore communist character Hikmet Cengiz Alabalık will secretly despise. ;)
Excellent! You will have seen the way I play the characters with others - it's a kind of informally agreed thing: in game he's my character, but inspired by your 'position' and comments. Basically, a lot of the time it means comments you might make come out in advice to the Cabinet etc. But beware, it's not a role-playing game, so the character has signed his rights over to me ;). You can plausibly deny anything he says. I'll treat it like the rest of the 'commentator characters' in the AAR. :)
 
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Excellent! You will have seen the way I play the characters with others - it's a kind of informally agreed thing: in game he's my character, but inspired by your 'position' and comments. Basically, a lot of the time it means comments you might make come out in advice to the Cabinet etc. But beware, it's not a role-playing game, so the character has signed his rights over to me ;). You can plausibly deny anything he says. I'll treat it like the rest of the 'commentator characters' in the AAR. :)

hahaha great, agreed :)
 
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The fact that almost every single German division in France, in almost each province, is a Panzer Division, just makes me shake my head at how over-powered Germany is in HOI3.... >:
 
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The fact that almost every single German division in France, in almost each province, is a Panzer Division, just makes me shake my head at how over-powered Germany is in HOI3.... >:
Indeed. It’s why I like playing against them. ;)

The far east really look bad now. How far away are the Romanian troops to save at least Irkutsk at Lake Baikal?

Still a couple of weeks away I think - it’s very slow progress! :rolleyes:
 
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They are full of confidence still. Even though th war in Africa seems to be over for the most part (unless the Italians pull off some miracle on the ground or the two allied fleets sink), the far east and the western front go strongly in the favour of the axis. And though the eastern front is long and bloody, they have to hold it only so long as it takes to conquer france, as much as we need the French to hold only so long as it takes for us to punch through hungary.

It is not a stalemate but both sides have advanced where they wished to.
 
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Germany really needs to take Paris and knock France out of the war before the Destiny event times out. It is an alarmingly overpowered boost, without it the French would have stabilised the line by now. If France can hold out a bit longer then they will be able to turn the tables.

President Inonu as Henry V is still a bit incongruous, he never really had much of a dissolute youth, maybe if he had then Turkey wouldn't be so repressed and miserable. On the other hand, while the timing doesn't really work, you could maybe see BJ Guildenstern as a Falstaff-esque character. Drunk, more focused on debauchery than honour, taught Inonu the tricks of the Propaganda trade but was cast aside (or ran away) when no longer convenient.

My current hope, though I know it is a forlorn one, is for another Shakespeare play to come to the fore. Inonu's, and Turkey's, lust for power and conquest rivals that of a certain Scottish Thane of Glamis. While Inonu may feel that no-one born of woman can touch him or defeat his blood stained republic, I would remind him that Elizabeth II was untimley ripped from the womb...
 
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Germany really needs to take Paris and knock France out of the war before the Destiny event times out. It is an alarmingly overpowered boost, without it the French would have stabilised the line by now. If France can hold out a bit longer then they will be able to turn the tables.

If they can't win with such an overpowered boost (how overpowered are we talkin'?) then they'll run into trouble when it runs out and they're still fighting a two/three front war against the most dangerous factions in the game. Now Scandinavia is going communist and Africa is faltering, there are no easy battlefields for Germany to recover anything like the resources and manpower (and morale too) they've spent and wasted in France. The French people deserve a big communist parade when the war is won. It might have been Russian blood wot won it but the fact that the western line held meant there was enough strength afterwards to capture and free all of Europe (excluding those treacherous imperialistis on that island over there).

If they hold a little longer, it'll be red wine for all in Paris come 1945.
 
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If they can't win with such an overpowered boost (how overpowered are we talkin'?)
https://hoi3.paradoxwikis.com/Destiny - 20% boost to speed, soft and hard attack and organisation regain. They also get a 10% boost to supply and a irrelevant boost to convoy raiding. All for 5 months.

It's something Paradox put in to make sure Germany can give the Soviets a kicking when they start Barbarossa. Personally I'd have thought putting a big malus on the Soviets would be a better way of modelling the catastrophically bad start to the war the Soviets suffered, it would be a bit more historically accurate and not induce weird side effects (why would invading the Soviet Union make the Afrika Korps fight better?), but such is the way of HOI3.
 
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Germany really needs to take Paris and knock France out of the war before the Destiny event times out. It is an alarmingly overpowered boost, without it the French would have stabilised the line by now. If France can hold out a bit longer then they will be able to turn the tables.
You are right there on both counts. All out of my hands for now - but it is excitingly balanced! Could really go either way - but my fear is that Paris will fall and France soon after. :(
President Inonu as Henry V is still a bit incongruous, he never really had much of a dissolute youth, maybe if he had then Turkey wouldn't be so repressed and miserable. On the other hand, while the timing doesn't really work, you could maybe see BJ Guildenstern as a Falstaff-esque character. Drunk, more focused on debauchery than honour, taught Inonu the tricks of the Propaganda trade but was cast aside (or ran away) when no longer convenient.
Yes, just like fitting game events into narrative, it isn’t an exact match. But like the game, I modify the narrative a bit to fit the circumstances - in this case I’ve played down the vain youth bit and made it more about a mixture of living under Ataturk’s enormous shadow for so long (a little parallel, anyway) and his game-based isolationism.

The Rosencrantz and Guildenstern names were a bit more of a flight of fancy and not designed to mimic either the Shakespearean or Stoppard characters or their story arcs too closely. Probably a bit more in the Stoppard mould, but as successive rather than coincident characters. Which pre-dated the Henry V flight of fancy. You do draw a nice comparison to Falstaff - in this rendition, I have skipped the bit players so far, Pistol & co. The three captains may make an appearance later though, perhaps as reps from a couple of the more important GNRs. :)
My current hope, though I know it is a forlorn one, is for another Shakespeare play to come to the fore. Inonu's, and Turkey's, lust for power and conquest rivals that of a certain Scottish Thane of Glamis. While Inonu may feel that no-one born of woman can touch him or defeat his blood stained republic, I would remind him that Elizabeth II was untimley ripped from the womb...
Ah, you never know, could come to that if the Fascist Beast can be beaten and the Proletarian Revolution still needs to be prosecuted against the decadent democrats of the West! ;) But a lot of hard fighting before we can even think seriously of that.
If they can't win with such an overpowered boost (how overpowered are we talkin'?) then they'll run into trouble when it runs out and they're still fighting a two/three front war against the most dangerous factions in the game. Now Scandinavia is going communist and Africa is faltering, there are no easy battlefields for Germany to recover anything like the resources and manpower (and morale too) they've spent and wasted in France. The French people deserve a big communist parade when the war is won. It might have been Russian blood wot won it but the fact that the western line held meant there was enough strength afterwards to capture and free all of Europe (excluding those treacherous imperialistis on that island over there).

If they hold a little longer, it'll be red wine for all in Paris come 1945.
Re ‘Destiny’, I cite its provisions in Chapter 84, 3 July (in the spoiler) :). It’s pretty powerful, especially for the attack.

On France: until the German breakthroughs in the last week of September I was mildly optimistic about France. But now, and with the additional info from the monthly detailed report from the Allies, I’m a bit worried. Even if France goes down after all, I think the Germans will have a hard time generating a real Barbarossa-style blitz now. The Soviets have been given at least six months plus winter 1940-41 to prepare too. But full German panzer and air power on the eastern front could be a handful. Calistar has been asked to ensure those fortified lines are still being properly maintained - though we’re not yet looking to restart the building process. :confused:
 
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Ah, you never know, could come to that if the Fascist Beast can be beaten and the Proletarian Revolution still needs to be prosecuted against the decadent democrats of the West! ;) But a lot of hard fighting before we can even think seriously of that.

Well, Hamlet would be a good fit for after the Great War to be honest. Europe and all Hamlet's fathers' conquered lands are yours, but the uncle Stalin wants them for himself and your relationship with him slowly breaks down as things start to go wrong.

Titus was be a pretty good one too. Or dr Faustus, since you've come to the end of your deal with the devil and now it's time to go to Siberia (or literally hell, since the Russians may shoot you).
 
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Well, Hamlet would be a good fit for after the Great War to be honest. Europe and all Hamlet's fathers' conquered lands are yours, but the uncle Stalin wants them for himself and your relationship with him slowly breaks down as things start to go wrong.

Titus was be a pretty good one too. Or dr Faustus, since you've come to the end of your deal with the devil and now it's time to go to Siberia (or literally hell, since the Russians may shoot you).
Perhaps one of these, but the game mechanics will place certain constraints on the bigger picture ;). Unlike CK2, where such outcomes and parallels are not just possible, but almost mandatory!
 
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Very nice. Good to see the Soviet Front becoming very active - I feel that the Germans will start to be beaten back by the Soviet Forces and the drain on their manpower will get out of control soon. Even if France were to fall now I feel it is too late for the Germans. Europe will be RED!
 
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Very nice. Good to see the Soviet Front becoming very active - I feel that the Germans will start to be beaten back by the Soviet Forces and the drain on their manpower will get out of control soon. Even if France were to fall now I feel it is too late for the Germans. Europe will be RED!
One can only hope!
 
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