Tonioz said:
It's just conjecture. I'm just trying to help people know who the real Badboy of this game is
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It's just conjecture. I'm just trying to help people know who the real Badboy of this game is
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King John said:It's just conjecture. I'm just trying to help people know who the real Badboy of this game is
Portugal diplomatic embassy is demolished in Saxony.
Tonioz said:
Tonio, it was a gang of a kind, although a small one, only 2 vs 1. But since both had a CRT more and better MP, each one of them I think, then I definitely believe it can be characterised as a gangbang. For me that term means that more than one nation attacks one or more nations and the outcome of the war is 100% sure, the attacking side will win because of much higher strength. Well, that definition suits this war perfectly.
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In a previous incident I wrote that anyone may try and portray anyone else as megalomaniac or treacherous etc (or even to be a highly dangerous hypertecher, as you portray me
). I.e. anyone may accuse another player of anything that merely indicates he plays "skilfully". What you cannot do is to claim another player breaks the rules without presenting facts that supports this claim. I cannot see in what way John broke any rule. He definitely did not break the rule that says you must be nice.Tonio, it is a part of the diplomatic game to try and make people believe that your opponents are dangerous. It is a matter of skill Tonio, not a matter of being nice.
It is very important that we all understand that there is no moral in this game (except to be nice) when playing the game. We have the rules, nothing more. Of course, behaving badly may well mean you get targetted later on, but that is another question.
Thus John's post was 100% OK and I hope you understand that and can get on.
Scotlands AAR 1500 - 1530
For some reason the previous ruler neglected to build taxcollectors in some provinces. As taxcollectors didnt affect the overall revoltsrisk in those provinces, we promptly started to apoint some. At the same time we preperad ourself for the coming "explorer-race*". Two days into the session, the king of Albania asked for MA. He was of course denied. Nice try!
As we where instructed to in [classified], we started to explor [classified]. It went rather good, even if the natives in [classified] was constantly revolting. However, the natives are now happy Scotsmen. Our brave explorer continued as planned. As he was getting old and was about to die, he volunteered to go on a last trip to unknowned lands far away. What a brave man! Too bad that he had to take so many ships with him.
In Europe there was several wars, none the we took any part in. A princess was sent every now and then. "Absolut the cute" seemed not to be so cute, since we got several "diplomatic insults". Not to mention the up-rising nobles and peasants. Stab was almost constant at - 3 and there was no possibility to trade. And who invented that event that gives a) + 300 d and + 3 inflation or b) - 100 d?
The bad luck with the events changed when "Absolut the Mediocre" took over. Suddenly we got some free warships, an exp. year, a COT but most of all [classified]! There is now some [classified] in [classified]. In the next session, Scotland should be able to [classified] [classified]! After that, Scotland can [classified] [classified], making [classified] while at the same time not risk [classified]. The new monarch also got the stab up and we could start to trade.
Some nations wanted to exchange maps, some nations wanted MA. All nations was turned down. The nations in question should contact someone called "Absolut" if they want to discuss those matters again.
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Absolut, check that I got this right!
MT = 2,5
On time reward = deflation
AAR reward = deflation (more than 15 rows)
Leaders: 2 generals, 1 admiral, 1 explorer
*Not as in "explorer [the vodka]-race"
For some reason the previous ruler neglected to build taxcollectors in some provinces. As taxcollectors didnt affect the overall revoltsrisk in those provinces, we promptly started to apoint some. At the same time we preperad ourself for the coming "explorer-race*". Two days into the session, the king of Albania asked for MA. He was of course denied. Nice try!
As we where instructed to in [classified], we started to explor [classified]. It went rather good, even if the natives in [classified] was constantly revolting. However, the natives are now happy Scotsmen. Our brave explorer continued as planned. As he was getting old and was about to die, he volunteered to go on a last trip to unknowned lands far away. What a brave man! Too bad that he had to take so many ships with him.
In Europe there was several wars, none the we took any part in. A princess was sent every now and then. "Absolut the cute" seemed not to be so cute, since we got several "diplomatic insults". Not to mention the up-rising nobles and peasants. Stab was almost constant at - 3 and there was no possibility to trade. And who invented that event that gives a) + 300 d and + 3 inflation or b) - 100 d?
The bad luck with the events changed when "Absolut the Mediocre" took over. Suddenly we got some free warships, an exp. year, a COT but most of all [classified]! There is now some [classified] in [classified]. In the next session, Scotland should be able to [classified] [classified]! After that, Scotland can [classified] [classified], making [classified] while at the same time not risk [classified]. The new monarch also got the stab up and we could start to trade.
Some nations wanted to exchange maps, some nations wanted MA. All nations was turned down. The nations in question should contact someone called "Absolut" if they want to discuss those matters again.
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Absolut, check that I got this right!
MT = 2,5
On time reward = deflation
AAR reward = deflation (more than 15 rows)
Leaders: 2 generals, 1 admiral, 1 explorer
*Not as in "explorer [the vodka]-race"
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Funny AAR Cobjor!
And have no fear. Tonio will only get one "special leader". He knows the rules as we had a similar problem the previous week. Why he reuqested wrongly this time as well is a mystery
And have no fear. Tonio will only get one "special leader". He knows the rules as we had a similar problem the previous week. Why he reuqested wrongly this time as well is a mystery
cobjor said:Absolut, check that I got this right!
MT = 2,5
On time reward = deflation
AAR reward = deflation (more than 15 rows)
Leaders: 1 general, 2 admiral, 1 conq **
*Not as in "explorer [the vodka]-race"
** Tonio asked for 1 general, 1 admiral, 1 explorer, 1 conq. his AAR. If that is allowed, I suggest that you change to that too.
Youve gotten it right.
AFAIK, you can only have either a conq or an explorer, not both.
Thanks!Daniel A said:
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Daniel and Absolut, I will edit the AAR.
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Good luck with the game. I might be able to sub from time to time, just ask.
AAR MOLDAVIA 1500-1530
Our big aim this session was to reach infra 5. We eventually did that but before that some other things were needed to be taken care of.
First we had to reach LT5 to be safe from the evil Saxons, we were at LT3 at the start although not far away from LT4 while they were at LT5.
That took some years and then we could start the infra investment which would take some 10 years at 100% investment.
Meanwhile we tried and tried and tried to get a CB on Hungary but it seemed impossible. Too bad.
Then lightning struck. The Saxons attacked! Closer inspection revealed that they were now at LT9. The Duke of Saxony even had the impertinence of informing us of the importance to keep a close attention to the LT of other nations.o He got those tech levels quite fast. LT7 is not a cheap one and neither is LT6. Well, his main concerns was our maps and when he had taken them he was satisfied.
So it is when one has something precious. Greedy neighbours whom you may well have considered honorable will turn out to be wolfs, ready to bite you anytime your attention slackens...
Well, back to infra and finally in 1516 we reached that beloved level. Incidentally the 2nd best tech level of all in the game although most erronously put it as number 1.
We then had to mint for 2-3 years to pay for the governors and then we had to invest in stab for 4 years to get stab up to where it must be (there were some bad events and then the Hungarian solution, see more next paragraph, and then a slider move). Each stab step cost us around 6 months investing at that time.
Yes, we had finally to resort to making a RM with the Hungarians and then claiming their throne. That cost 2 in stab. Doubtful choice by me but we just could not accept the sight of this minor amongst us great nations of Albania and Portugal.
Next thing to happen was a sudden embargo by Albania and Portugal, right after one another. Apparently some kind of agreed upon action. This was duly noted in our book of black deeds. That some players apparently believed we were some kind of hyperteching monster that eventually would swallow, when the real danger lies to the north, was quite surprising. Even more surprising was that they combined this disability with an even more serious disability to appreciate the very slight impact that action had on our trade income, and what a huge minus it was for them in diplomatic terms. A sad episode indeed.
We then invested some in LT again but then decided on trade and we reached trade 4 just as the game ended. To our astonishment we found that half the nations had trade 4 (Saxony even had trade 5!). How hilarious. Here they invest in trade instead of infra 5 while most of them do not trade at all or very little? The only benefit being the increase of toll income. Well, I cannot complain when I see my opponents display this kind of investing technique In the case of Saxony it is possible they did not invest in trade but the manus did it - but as they were at trade 3 with 4423 invested at the start of the session that does not seem credible. The manus after all only contributes 14,400d to trade investment in 30 years.
We went centra on the sliders. We DAed Georgia and Wallachia and took 4 provinces from Poland.
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Rewards: deflation
MT: 2.5
Leaders: no change
Our big aim this session was to reach infra 5. We eventually did that but before that some other things were needed to be taken care of.
First we had to reach LT5 to be safe from the evil Saxons, we were at LT3 at the start although not far away from LT4 while they were at LT5.
That took some years and then we could start the infra investment which would take some 10 years at 100% investment.
Meanwhile we tried and tried and tried to get a CB on Hungary but it seemed impossible. Too bad.
Then lightning struck. The Saxons attacked! Closer inspection revealed that they were now at LT9. The Duke of Saxony even had the impertinence of informing us of the importance to keep a close attention to the LT of other nations.
o He got those tech levels quite fast. LT7 is not a cheap one and neither is LT6. Well, his main concerns was our maps and when he had taken them he was satisfied.So it is when one has something precious. Greedy neighbours whom you may well have considered honorable will turn out to be wolfs, ready to bite you anytime your attention slackens...
Well, back to infra and finally in 1516 we reached that beloved level. Incidentally the 2nd best tech level of all in the game although most erronously put it as number 1.
We then had to mint for 2-3 years to pay for the governors and then we had to invest in stab for 4 years to get stab up to where it must be (there were some bad events and then the Hungarian solution, see more next paragraph, and then a slider move). Each stab step cost us around 6 months investing at that time.
Yes, we had finally to resort to making a RM with the Hungarians and then claiming their throne. That cost 2 in stab. Doubtful choice by me but we just could not accept the sight of this minor amongst us great nations of Albania and Portugal.
Next thing to happen was a sudden embargo by Albania and Portugal, right after one another. Apparently some kind of agreed upon action. This was duly noted in our book of black deeds. That some players apparently believed we were some kind of hyperteching monster that eventually would swallow, when the real danger lies to the north, was quite surprising. Even more surprising was that they combined this disability with an even more serious disability to appreciate the very slight impact that action had on our trade income, and what a huge minus it was for them in diplomatic terms. A sad episode indeed.
We then invested some in LT again but then decided on trade and we reached trade 4 just as the game ended. To our astonishment we found that half the nations had trade 4 (Saxony even had trade 5!). How hilarious. Here they invest in trade instead of infra 5 while most of them do not trade at all or very little? The only benefit being the increase of toll income. Well, I cannot complain when I see my opponents display this kind of investing technique
In the case of Saxony it is possible they did not invest in trade but the manus did it - but as they were at trade 3 with 4423 invested at the start of the session that does not seem credible. The manus after all only contributes 14,400d to trade investment in 30 years.We went centra on the sliders. We DAed Georgia and Wallachia and took 4 provinces from Poland.
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Rewards: deflation
MT: 2.5
Leaders: no change
Poor Daniel, embargoed again.
Cobjor, can you change that conq to an explorer instead?
Cobjor, can you change that conq to an explorer instead?
Daniel A said:
Daniel, i refer only to hyperteching or stupidness not to get LT9 in time. It is not my responsibility if other nation didn`t do it. Helvetia made LT5 before me, but then stopped investments.
I attacked alone you and alone Helvetia. I crashed Helvetia alone.
For me
is clear offense (not meaning speculating at propaganda) and treated this way. There is no more relations with Portugal.
Did i call for you to make a judjement or what ? I just close my relations with KJ, and nothing else.
I got much more offences from weirdos without no reaction of GMs and moderators. I`m just more clear now what to do with this sort of shit.
It is very important for the person to understand that his own morale means the level of self-respect. Talking there is no moral because there are such rules of the game or because there is game is individual matter of each person ... to hide himself under this reasons and go lower. I know that 95% of this community prefers easier variant in this question.
Tonio,
It appears you are taking this personally and I believe your posting style is not nice.
Anyone who enters this game must be prepared to be attacked by "diplomatic" attacks/coups, regardless of their degree of truthfulness.
I will now make a few examples which should make this 100% clear.
Example 1: Hyperteching is allowed in this game. Therefore you may try and portray me as a hypertecher if you want. You do not need to put forward any evidence at all. It may even be a simple lie, you may still claim I am one. If it is an obvious lie people will laugh at you but that is your problem. If I cannot take it then I have to change my attitude, not you your posting style.
Example 2: Gangbanging is allowed in this game. Therefore John may try and portray you as a gangbanger if he wants. He does not need to put forward any evidence at all. It may even be a simple lie, he may still claim you are one. If it is an obvious lie people will laugh at him but that is his problem. If you cannot take it then you have to change your attitude, not he his posting style.
Example 3: Same as example two but you do it in a very "un-nice" way. You say e.g. "you shithead gangbanged me, I hate you" and no smiley to indicate you are joking. Now you have passed the line and you are breaking rule number 1. You are spoiling the fun for your fellow gamers, especially the one attacked.
Example 4: To cheat is forbidden in this game. Thus you cannot portray someone else as a cheater without presenting a formal accusation supported by evidence. Then the GMs will look into it and make their decision. But all of this is outside the game. While the diplomatic game is inside.
It is extremely important that you and everyone else understands this is how this game works. That when you communicate with other players you must lay aside any private notions of e.g. how bad gangbanging is. It is entirely irrelevant if you believe gangbanging is really a nasty horrible things to do. In this game gangbanging is allowed and as is harmless as colonising Tierra del Fuego. You may of course in private try and get back at the gangbanger, to get your revenge, but that is another thing, we are now talking about communication, on ICQ, in PMs, in the game and on the Forum.
Now, if you want to defend your part in the war between BRI and POR I suggest you stress your "good" reasons for joning Brittany, or try to portray John as having a "bad" motive behind his writings, that he is the dangerous one.
But you cannot ask him for an apology. Then you have left the game and look on it from the outside, claiming he broke our rule number one, which he did not.
As I wrote earlier, you will be a wolf and a fox but you will be a gentleman at the same time.
If you fail to understand how this works then this is not your game.
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We are not ordinary GMs. We are better than they are. Because we protect our flock when they are attacked from within or from the outside. Quote from post 505
And we try to do it immediately when we see even a hint of someone breaking our basic rule number 1: that of being nice. You asked him for an apology, that is an implicit accusation of him breaking rule number one. We the GMs are the final interpretors of the rules and we are the ones responsible for upholding the rules. Thus we will always react when someone claims someone else broke rule one.
And you can definitely not portray another player's text as "shit" as you just did and you can probably not use the general style you did in this latest post of yours either although that is much more difficult to judge.
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I suggest you think about this for 24 hours and then come back with your next response.
PS.
When rereading the first paragraph you wrote it seems you are trying to defend yourself from being a gangbanger. Well I never thought you were, neither in normal games, nor in this game. Thus you do not need to defend yourself of that to me. But I believe that in this particular case you did take part in a gang of Portugal. But I do not critisize you for that, i.e. I do not claim you did something not allowed. And neither did John. But we may well characterise it as "brutal", "savage" etc as long as it is a part of the diplomatic game.
It appears you are taking this personally and I believe your posting style is not nice.
Anyone who enters this game must be prepared to be attacked by "diplomatic" attacks/coups, regardless of their degree of truthfulness.
I will now make a few examples which should make this 100% clear.
Example 1: Hyperteching is allowed in this game. Therefore you may try and portray me as a hypertecher if you want. You do not need to put forward any evidence at all. It may even be a simple lie, you may still claim I am one. If it is an obvious lie people will laugh at you but that is your problem. If I cannot take it then I have to change my attitude, not you your posting style.
Example 2: Gangbanging is allowed in this game. Therefore John may try and portray you as a gangbanger if he wants. He does not need to put forward any evidence at all. It may even be a simple lie, he may still claim you are one. If it is an obvious lie people will laugh at him but that is his problem. If you cannot take it then you have to change your attitude, not he his posting style.
Example 3: Same as example two but you do it in a very "un-nice" way. You say e.g. "you shithead gangbanged me, I hate you" and no smiley to indicate you are joking. Now you have passed the line and you are breaking rule number 1. You are spoiling the fun for your fellow gamers, especially the one attacked.
Example 4: To cheat is forbidden in this game. Thus you cannot portray someone else as a cheater without presenting a formal accusation supported by evidence. Then the GMs will look into it and make their decision. But all of this is outside the game. While the diplomatic game is inside.
It is extremely important that you and everyone else understands this is how this game works. That when you communicate with other players you must lay aside any private notions of e.g. how bad gangbanging is. It is entirely irrelevant if you believe gangbanging is really a nasty horrible things to do. In this game gangbanging is allowed and as is harmless as colonising Tierra del Fuego. You may of course in private try and get back at the gangbanger, to get your revenge, but that is another thing, we are now talking about communication, on ICQ, in PMs, in the game and on the Forum.
Now, if you want to defend your part in the war between BRI and POR I suggest you stress your "good" reasons for joning Brittany, or try to portray John as having a "bad" motive behind his writings, that he is the dangerous one.
But you cannot ask him for an apology. Then you have left the game and look on it from the outside, claiming he broke our rule number one, which he did not.
As I wrote earlier, you will be a wolf and a fox but you will be a gentleman at the same time.
If you fail to understand how this works then this is not your game.
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Tonioz said:
We are not ordinary GMs. We are better than they are. Because we protect our flock when they are attacked from within or from the outside. Quote from post 505
Daniel A said:
And we try to do it immediately when we see even a hint of someone breaking our basic rule number 1: that of being nice. You asked him for an apology, that is an implicit accusation of him breaking rule number one. We the GMs are the final interpretors of the rules and we are the ones responsible for upholding the rules. Thus we will always react when someone claims someone else broke rule one.
And you can definitely not portray another player's text as "shit" as you just did and you can probably not use the general style you did in this latest post of yours either although that is much more difficult to judge.
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I suggest you think about this for 24 hours and then come back with your next response.
PS.
When rereading the first paragraph you wrote it seems you are trying to defend yourself from being a gangbanger. Well I never thought you were, neither in normal games, nor in this game. Thus you do not need to defend yourself of that to me. But I believe that in this particular case you did take part in a gang of Portugal. But I do not critisize you for that, i.e. I do not claim you did something not allowed. And neither did John. But we may well characterise it as "brutal", "savage" etc as long as it is a part of the diplomatic game.
Helvetia AAR 1500-1530
This session started with us investing in tech trying to reach Infra Level 3 and to increase trade income sending merchants to the nearest CoTs. Much money saved in last years was spent to build a Fine Art Academy in Bern (with a loan too).
In 1503 the regent in Naples DoWed us to get Lazio and Marche provs; we offered Lazio only but he refused; at the restart the acclaimed king confirmed the intentions of war. After a winning series of battles we didn't accept the peace for Capitanata and asked as intentions (but by a mistake we offered money) to Knights, leader of that military alliance.
In 1506 both Baden and Wurttemberg DoWed us due to bad relationships, in the same year the rebels appeared in our cities of Mantua and Innsbruck. The swabian army immediately sieged and occupied Brisgau prov; we moved our main army making Brisgau a free city and occupying Stuttgart city, at the end Wurttemberg could be annexed. In the same year Dauphinè nation DoWed us thinking about an expansion by them in our Savoie; we were patient and after some battles we gained Lyonnais (and money) from our enemies. In 1513 people of Baden accepted peace for money, while this long war was causing disorders in Parma (immediately beaten).
In 1515 we were again at war against Dauphinè, allied with Brabant now; an ambassador was sent there about the agreement on fixing our border along Rhone river. So the King of Brabant let us occupy the province of Dauphinè (annexed in 1524), while in the same year the land of Lyonnais was lost to Brabant.
In Italy the king of Naples asked the help of King of Saxony to take us in a great war; the effort wasn't unbearable by our army, so the effects were the devastation of our countrysides by barbarians that demanded much later Wurttemberg to Saxony, but also some italian provs (Marche, Siena, Lazio) to their allied Naples. This act made Saxony as our natural enemy, even if the comparison to them isn't possible. We will kep on with our limited forces, isolated in this area with no chance of expansion or colonization with a delay in infrastructures and in trade levels.
In domestic policies many edits were made by our King: agricultural improvements and urbanization in Romagna, fight against inflation, small fortress in Savoie, weapons manufactory given in Mantua, big decentralization, free trade, fight against eresy, lower taxes, military advisor and other minors.
reward for AAR is badboy reduction
reward for being in time is badboy reduction
MT formula
MT = 1 + 2.6/2 + 0.5*(20*246)/(30*85)
= 1 + 1.3 + 0.5*4920/2550
= 1 + 1.3 + 0.96
= 3.3
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AAR Naples 1500-1530
Time of Gold
I had to take a vacation in the beginning of 1500, it was a nice vacation until i had to go back knowing that my substitut started a war with helvetia. i got back just in time to conquer marche and lazio witch i claimed. i stopped my expansion there. Asking for peace and marche and lazio in return. well thatdidn't work out. Helvtia having LT 5 and me only LT3 he started to assault my towns and getting them faster then i could siege his and mine own. That war ended with helvetia giving my allies money. I didin't think that was a good thing because helvetia had my capital and 2 other provinces should ahve gotten money instead of giving it so i gave my share of the money he gave to my allies and 1 year income to justify it.
Well this war proved my theory.Helvetia could sack my capital in the beginning of wars easy with it bordering their borders. so i need those provinces. I asked saxony for help along time ago and thought this was my change. I needed five years to build up to fight him, and that's what i got. Saxony Dow;ed helvetia 1 year before the truce was over but that just helped me. So i DoW:ed Helvetia and quickly sieged and took Siena,Marche and Lazio.
Gains against Helvetia.
Lost my shock 4 leader in africa by some angry tribes. Declare war against hte angry tribed. Kicked their butt and got MA. Becuase of that MA i could declare war and get my gold and COT.first war didn't do well because i didn't know that angry tribe had 50k men against my 12k cav. Got beaten in the forest(ambush). the Second war went better. now i had 50k troops that attacked them. surrounded them and then kicked their army in the same forest that i got ambushed. took the gold provinces and CoT and a colony to get a port.
African Expansion
Took another provinces south of my vassal and so i could get to the angry tribes. because that angry tribe had 3 provinces and 68k in their capital. didn't want to lose alot of good men to attack 69000 tribe men. and btw the angry tribe that i got a MA from they are expanning alot. we might have a nice African power later if Albania stays away from my africa
My province that my vassal will get later.
Well. Good things this season!!
-Doubled my income to 60 after getting the gold!.
- Moved my DP sliders
-Got a good Cot with gold, Brabant will have to get out of there soon.
-Alot of other stuff i can't tell.
Reward
BB reduction.
MT Calculation.
(170k losses + 7/5~1 galleys) =171
1+(2.5*0.5)+.5*((171*20)/(68,3*20))
2,25+0.5*(3420/1366)
2.25+0.5*(2.50)
2.25+1,25=3.5
Request of Leaders.
1 Admiral-2 generals-1 conquistador.
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Daniel, my response is simple - Saxony has no more contacts with Portugal. That is all, nothing else.
Tonioz said:
well it's Eu2. Relations can swift towards worser or better. Stop arguing about this. Tonio can cut of relations if he wants to, like i said it's Eu2 with alittle roleplaying is much funnier.
Well, this is pretty normal between me and Tonio. It was just a matter of time before we went at each others throats .
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AAR Barbant 1500 - 1530
the most thrilling, interesting and entertaining session till now. i had a lot of fun, so much happened:
session began with gaining the long awaited explorer. as said before he had crap stats. but because the Brabantians are so damn hungry for the Aztec gold i had to put all my eggs in one basket. so my explorer (for simplicity i just call him crappy-man), so crappy-man left the old world with the whole brabantian navy and a strong army. after months and months of sailing westwards he discovered the mysterious maya empire.the maya emporer was bribed with a state gift and was happy to grant us military access. crappy-man and the left over fleet was finally able to reach a save port in the americas. but the losses of the long sail in unknown waters were horrible: 3/4 of brabatian navy were lost to the sea, 25 warships and 8 transport were lost to attrition , the army was nearly annihilated . a costy expedition. but it was worth the effort.
south of Maya crappy-man discovered the province of Honduras. the first brabantian settler left the homeland and just a few days after he reached Honduras a Cot spawned there. Meanwhile the small army had marched through Maya territory and discovered the gold rich lands of the Aztecs. They were dowed immediatly. But it should take years until i was able to totally annex the aztecs: only a small fleet was left to transport troops to america, the attrition losses were horrible, tenthousands of brabatian soldiers died on the atlantic journey.
the victory against the aztecs was further delayed by a nasty event: i was dowed by Portugal. this dow wasnt much of a surprise, i knew Port was hostile towards me. but i wasnt prepared well, all my efforts were aimed on colonisation and annexing american pagans, so the continental army was rather weak. some heavy battles followed, i won some and i lost some. but KJ is an excellent warrior, finally he gained the upper hand and his cavalry managed to get behind my lines and massacre all reinforcements. i had no choice but to surrender and give in to Ports demands: 5 provinces in southern France were lost to the evil aggressor.
of course there was only one goal in my mind: revenge!!! after finishing infra 4 i switched my science to land tech to reach land 9 as fast as possible. with one CRT ahead and a huge army over support limit i dowed Portugal to get my provinces back. to be sure i will win the war i asked my saxon friends for help. not a nice move, but an effective one (some would call this "gangbang", i prefer calling it "successfull diplomacy" ). the fight was short but intensive, portugese troops were slaughtered and one fortress after the other was assaulted easily. when allied saxon-brabantian forces crossed the Garonne and reached nothern Spain warscore was 99 percent. so i started stabhitting. unfortunately Portugal accepted the first stabhitting offer, i didnt intend to grab all this provs. my hunger for portugese blood is satiesfied for now. but i fear KJ now burns for revenge. southern France develops to a mass grave for portugese and brabatian troops. the disappearance of Armagnac left a power vacuum and i foresee numerous future wars for supremacy in armagnac territory. i guess we really need some kind of agreement for this area.
important events 1500 - 1530 in headwords:
- maya discovered and military access gained.
- aztecs annexed.
- 2 cots gained, aztec capital and one spawned cot in Honduras.
- finished 2 colo cities: Honduras and eastern Jamaica prov, started colo of some other spots.
- war against port lost
- war gainst port won with help of land 9 and saxony
- Trier and Luxembourgh diploannexed
- random manu in Paris
- got a random conquistador at end of session
- managed to become a trading nation, brabantian traders are active around the globe now.
- initiated 3 inquisistions to convert the mexicans to good catholics, all 3 failed at 68 percent, 1000d thrown in the dust bin
leader request: 1 explorer, 1 admiral, 2 generals
rewards: deflations
MT: 1+(0.5*2.5)+0.5((327*20)/(104*30))=3.3
the most thrilling, interesting and entertaining session till now. i had a lot of fun, so much happened:
session began with gaining the long awaited explorer. as said before he had crap stats. but because the Brabantians are so damn hungry for the Aztec gold i had to put all my eggs in one basket. so my explorer (for simplicity i just call him crappy-man), so crappy-man left the old world with the whole brabantian navy and a strong army. after months and months of sailing westwards he discovered the mysterious maya empire.the maya emporer was bribed with a state gift and was happy to grant us military access. crappy-man and the left over fleet was finally able to reach a save port in the americas. but the losses of the long sail in unknown waters were horrible: 3/4 of brabatian navy were lost to the sea, 25 warships and 8 transport were lost to attrition
, the army was nearly annihilated . a costy expedition. but it was worth the effort. south of Maya crappy-man discovered the province of Honduras. the first brabantian settler left the homeland and just a few days after he reached Honduras a Cot spawned there. Meanwhile the small army had marched through Maya territory and discovered the gold rich lands of the Aztecs. They were dowed immediatly. But it should take years until i was able to totally annex the aztecs: only a small fleet was left to transport troops to america, the attrition losses were horrible, tenthousands of brabatian soldiers died on the atlantic journey.
the victory against the aztecs was further delayed by a nasty event: i was dowed by Portugal. this dow wasnt much of a surprise, i knew Port was hostile towards me. but i wasnt prepared well, all my efforts were aimed on colonisation and annexing american pagans, so the continental army was rather weak. some heavy battles followed, i won some and i lost some. but KJ is an excellent warrior, finally he gained the upper hand and his cavalry managed to get behind my lines and massacre all reinforcements. i had no choice but to surrender and give in to Ports demands: 5 provinces in southern France were lost to the evil aggressor.
of course there was only one goal in my mind: revenge!!! after finishing infra 4 i switched my science to land tech to reach land 9 as fast as possible. with one CRT ahead and a huge army over support limit i dowed Portugal to get my provinces back. to be sure i will win the war i asked my saxon friends for help. not a nice move, but an effective one (some would call this "gangbang", i prefer calling it "successfull diplomacy"
). the fight was short but intensive, portugese troops were slaughtered and one fortress after the other was assaulted easily. when allied saxon-brabantian forces crossed the Garonne and reached nothern Spain warscore was 99 percent. so i started stabhitting. unfortunately Portugal accepted the first stabhitting offer, i didnt intend to grab all this provs. my hunger for portugese blood is satiesfied for now. but i fear KJ now burns for revenge. southern France develops to a mass grave for portugese and brabatian troops. the disappearance of Armagnac left a power vacuum and i foresee numerous future wars for supremacy in armagnac territory. i guess we really need some kind of agreement for this area. important events 1500 - 1530 in headwords:
- maya discovered and military access gained.
- aztecs annexed.
- 2 cots gained, aztec capital and one spawned cot in Honduras.
- finished 2 colo cities: Honduras and eastern Jamaica prov, started colo of some other spots.
- war against port lost
- war gainst port won with help of land 9 and saxony
- Trier and Luxembourgh diploannexed
- random manu in Paris
- got a random conquistador at end of session
- managed to become a trading nation, brabantian traders are active around the globe now.
- initiated 3 inquisistions to convert the mexicans to good catholics, all 3 failed at 68 percent, 1000d thrown in the dust bin
leader request: 1 explorer, 1 admiral, 2 generals
rewards: deflations
MT: 1+(0.5*2.5)+0.5((327*20)/(104*30))=3.3
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AAR Skåne 1500-1530
No AAR as I was not the one playing
. A short summary of what I know though: Sweden was annexed, Norway DOWed and defeated. CW sadly broke out, but is under controll for the moment. Good monarch Beli Tzar died, and his replacement was far from his capabilities. Being on time reward: 3 BB reduction.
MT Calculation: 1+(0.5*2.5)+0.5((68.776*20)/(58.2*30))=2.25+0.39= 2.64 2.64
REQUEST FOR LEADERS: 2 generals + 1 admiral + 1 explorer