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Would it still be possible to join this game?

It would be my first MP game (sadly), and I would need some help with preparations for the game though...

Still, I would be more than enthusiastic to play with you all ~
 
fasquardon said:
You'd be very welcome Cyra, the main preparations you need are to install the Improvement Pack mod linked from the second post in this thread, and you'll need to arrange for the right ports to be open if you've got any routers or firewalls. Kurtbrian posted this useful guide for how to do that.

It's also worth checking Jarkko's "What do you need to know to play EU2 MP?" and Totalbasscase's Router/Firewall FAQ.

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I use a router, but it should have all ports open, as I use only to share my internet with my brother. I'll check it when I have time anyway... and if I'll be lazy, I'll just turn the router off and plug the cable directly :D

As I understand, you're talking about IP2-BO-SMACK-PACK. I'll install it later today.

The main thing I'm posting now - would it be possible to get a savegame to see how the map looks like? So far I had only seen pics of player countries, so I can't imagine how AI countries changed.
 
Cyra said:
I use a router, but it should have all ports open, as I use only to share my internet with my brother. I'll check it when I have time anyway... and if I'll be lazy, I'll just turn the router off and plug the cable directly :D

As I understand, you're talking about IP2-BO-SMACK-PACK. I'll install it later today.

The main thing I'm posting now - would it be possible to get a savegame to see how the map looks like? So far I had only seen pics of player countries, so I can't imagine how AI countries changed.

No, it's just IP2b that you need. We found that things were more stable without mods that added lots of events.

Sure, I can email you the save if you want to PM me your email.

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CSK said:
Make this a could. First, I have math test next week. Second, I'm currently extremly pissed at Fas. Which means I don't really want to play either. :mad:

? why are you angry at Fas, honest to god I think you should forgive him, he has created a interesting situation as well...
 
So I should thank Fas for annexing my country when I was AIed?

Honestly, I wasted over two hours this day to get to the game, then couldn't join and for this I get annexed?

Sorry, but I have better thinks to waste my time on.
 
The only stupid thought I have - as I understand, most of the players were AI'ed. Nothing really good happened, even Fas wasted his time on Toulouse while he could have nuked someone else. CSK is mad, fas won't gain much after restoration of Toulouse... wouldn't it be more simple to ignore the last session and just take a previous session save?

Excuse me for interfering, of course. If my post insulted any of you in some way, please ignore it.
 
France is actually doing pretty well, they've managed to expand at Navarra's expense, done fairly well in the crusade on Sevilla, and haven't had many players messing them up from inside. So they have a fairly strong grip on Northern France. They may still be at war with England. There seems to be a whole big war that never goes anywhere up there...

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CSK said:
Second, I'm currently extremly pissed at Fas.

Well how do you think I feel? Full of sweetness and light?

Well, fair enough, I made a mistake, and while I'm sorry, you're entitled to be pissed at that. I encourage you to scheme with the other players to reduce my realms to smoking ruins. That'd be fun. But for pitty's sake man, don't take take it out on the rest of the players. Loosing players is just going to reduce the quality of fun for everyone.

Anyway... Looking at other stuff. The son of the duke of Toulouse is actually one of my counts, so I can in fact give Toulouse back to the de Toulouse family.

And if it'd help, I'm O.K. with starting from the 1092 save.

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Say, how many can we expect for tomorrow's game?

I'm still availible.

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fasquardon said:
And if it'd help, I'm O.K. with starting from the 1092 save.
You wanted to play on, you did and now you want to return to 1092? I don't see the reason.

By the way, which players are you talking about? Oka, who is not there without telling why? Ganso, who seems to be drunk every session? Lly, who already is half asleep. I don't think it would make a difference if one player is there every second session, epecially if half of the time of the session he's the only other player in the game.

By the way, when I talked about allying against you, this was the reason. You were PC. You could easily claim all of Spain. Yet, all do as Toulouse would be all so strong.

Restoring Toulouse would only be fair to Shuma, who actually should play it.

My problem is a different though. If you have a problem with me, fight me personally. But don't take it out on an AIed player (who I should be subbing for). As I said, I still hope Shuma can get his connection working to play with you.

And maybe you already know I never had the intention to take any lands from you apart from those in Aragon. The rest is not worth the cost it would be to hold them. I never had any goals in France or out of Castille, so I don't think I would, even if I possibly could, break your realm into ruins.
 
If the game will still have players...

I'm not sure what I can choose. Thoughts I got while looking at 1092 and later save :

1) Duchy of Normandy with its lands. Basically, would require save editing to give Duke lands (vassals) that belong to him. Possible to play as it is, but I wouldn't like that much.

2) Duchy of Dauphine - in 1092 its very likely to end in Bourbon hands soon. Aka instant game over. In 1098 its perfectly playable for me.

3) Duchy of Krain (outside France) without Lombardia, Verona, Steienmark and Breisgau. Without duke of Verona title as well. For both saves.

Any other suggestions?
 
CSK said:
You wanted to play on, you did and now you want to return to 1092? I don't see the reason.

I didn't say I wanted to return to 1092, I said I'd be O.K. with it. So if other players feel that it's wrong to go from 1098, I'm not gonna complain. I'm here to play CK with other people, and if going back a session helps keep the group together, well, gosh, where do my priorities lie?

CSK said:
My problem is a different though. If you have a problem with me, fight me personally. But don't take it out on an AIed player (who I should be subbing for). As I said, I still hope Shuma can get his connection working to play with you.

I don't have a problem with you personally. Yes, you make me paranoid in the game, but that's a game *shrugs*, I actually enjoy playing with you. It's not like the AI in SP can make me worry about what it's plotting. I'm a little annoyed at how personally you're taking this, but can I honestly say I'd react differently?

As I keep saying, things were a bit frantic for me towards the end of last session. I was being attacked in Tunisia, France was bearing down on me with a greedy eye, and I had a major civil war. So by the time I defeated Toulouse I was running on auto-pilot, 'cause, y'know, keeping track of a half-dozen battles does that too me. So it's about a half a minute after I've broken Toulouse that I remember, hey, that was someone's country, and I'm in an MP game... Oh heck... But then what am I supposed to do? Tell Lly, whups, sorry, I've made a mistake, and want a re-load while you fall asleep waiting for the signal to cross the great firewall, or do I take my lumps and deal with the consiquences like any decent MP player should?

So yes, I ate your duchy, but it wasn't because I don't like you, or was being nasty on purpose, it was because I was harried and distracted.

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I'm on.

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Now how much of Toulouse is left? What about this compromise:

You restore Toulouse with the Ducal titles it had (Toulouse, Auvergne, Barcelona) and give it Valencia in exchange for the 2/3 of Granada and Cadiz, it has to stay your vassal for a given time (which means I don't break the rules if I change the liege in say ten years, but I'd do if I change it in five).

About the Muslim rule, I always said it was flawed. If you take any more lands than these, you have to give it away.

Edit: I was talking about the Duchy of Valencia, if this doesn't yet exist. I don't care about the lands.
 
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CSK> when we start, select Tarragona, and I'll give the Toulouse titles to them.

And Valencia is a vassal of one of my rebels at the moment.

Cyra> we need to get started now, but post in the forums when you're ready, and we'll pick you up soon after. (Within 10-20 minutes.)

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