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Sir Humphrey - Not so sure about that, being always on the brink of financial crisis due to near constant over-reach had a big effect on British policy in defence (and other areas come to that). Actually having a working economy in the post-war years can only improve decision making, no need to hope the cheap-but-mad idea works when you can afford the proper option.

trekaddict - Or certain people never coming to power in the first place. ;)

Duritz - Never fear I've escaped! And I bring tease;

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Davout - I'll get you next time Davout, next time!
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Sir Humphrey - You've assumed Ian Smith even makes it to power, with all the changes in Rhodesia he may not even make it beyond local council level!

As to Duncan Sandy, I think he lives a very different life. He's not going to get commissioned into a territorial AA division in 1937 (if for no better reason than the fact I'm not building any AA units!) so instantly has a different life. Perhaps he ends up in a Yeomanry cavalry unit and becomes a missionary for tank warfare in Parliament? (Aircraft) sinner turned (armoured) saint? :D

Vann the Red - Thanks for the kind words! I wonder sometimes if these detours just leave people impatient for the next one, mentioning no tank obsessed names... So it's always good to know someone really appreciates them. :)
 
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As to Duncan Sandy, I think he lives a very different life. He's not going to get commissioned into a territorial AA division in 1937 (if for no better reason than the fact I'm not building any AA units!) so instantly has a different life. Perhaps he ends up in a Yeomanry cavalry unit and becomes a missionary for tank warfare in Parliament? (Aircraft) sinner turned (armoured) saint?
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Good point, although maybe he reaches the conclusion that mobile anti-tank missiles are the way to go and no tanks are needed! :(

However Britain (in cooperation with Australia) did produce a number of important missiles and systems throughout the 1950s. This includes the Malkara ATGM (which lead to the development of the Ikara and Sea Cat systems).
 
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Duncan Sandy...flip that around and you get get Sandy Duncan. I think she was an actress or something. I remember her from Scooby-Doo. I could be wrong, though.

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I saw what you did to poor Nathan but if you think you can get rid me that easily you have another thing coming.
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El Pip didn't get rid of me...I was away taking care of my grandmother.
 
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Sorry to piss on your parade but Sandys is pronounced 'sands' (as in the plural of sand you find on a beach, well any non-English beach...).
 
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Sir Humphrey said:
Sorry to piss on your parade but Sandys is pronounced 'sands' (as in the plural of sand you find on a beach, well any non-English beach...).
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Who cares, as long as that....man *spit* is never let near defence policy.
 
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El Pip said:
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If at least some of the cavalry promoters can indeed be tricked into supporting combined arms mechanization by keeping the old unit names and thus in a sense increasing cavalry´s share of the Army budget things will be interesting indeed.
 
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trekaddict - Yes. :D

KaiserMuffin - We have a winner. A vague one but a winner nevertheless.

Sir Humphrey - Maybe but nobody has to listen to him if he isn't in the cabinet. :)

Nathan Madien - I hope your time away went well and everyone is now OK.

Nathan Madien/KaiserMuffin/trekaddict/Sir Humphrey - Frankly I think the actress would have done a better job. It could hardly have been worse and would have made the Duchess of Argyll divorce photos far more scandalous than they already were. :D

Karelian - Tricked, bribed or blackmailed would do it. Or indeed all three.


In Update news the events have duly fired with screenshots to add to the update and the first chunk is done. However in bad news for the US (in this AAR at least) I happened to read this story; Link

I had been pondering having the country start to get better in the next US update. Now however I've decided things will get significantly worse in almost every way. Consider it a form of catharsis.
 
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@The story - Bring it on. Should stimulate investment in the Navy again as well as increase the Airforce and Army budgets. We might actually have a decent war in which we go prepared for once.
 
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Hmmm. US indecision and near disaster? Sounds ripe for the Brits to march into Washington and burn the White House down,.. again.
 
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Agreed. The Yanks need to be taught a lesson.
 
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I'd like to think this is just public posturing, but seems there is a real move away from the UK by this admin ... makes me sad. I wonder how differently the US govt will feel if Britain has to move forces from 'stan to the S.Atlantic to defend the islands?
 
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trekaddict said:
Agreed. The Yanks need to be taught a lesson.
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I haven't reach the point that makes rise to that statement, but I agree with Trekkie. Anytime, the Yanks need to be taught a lesson. Or two.

PS: Still reading. Shocked about Winnie's getting ousted. At least you defeated the Italians...:D
 
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DonnieBaseball said:
I'd like to think this is just public posturing, but seems there is a real move away from the UK by this admin ... makes me sad. I wonder how differently the US govt will feel if Britain has to move forces from 'stan to the S.Atlantic to defend the islands?
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I don't think it's a move away from UK more a move towards the Latino bloc. More democratic latino voters in US than anglophiles.

Just puts the special relationship in AARs in perspective - most American presidents look inwards rather than outwards and allies are there to support America not the other way around.
 
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The US has always been neutral with regard to the Falklands. That was one of the reasons that Argentina felt emboldened to invade in 1982...they figured Britain wouldn't act without the US. Oops.

What is sad is that Washington hasn't figured out that our 'on the fence' policy contributed to the bloodshed...and is re-running the same play. Argh. At least the Falklands are better protected by the Brits at the moment...
 
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TheExecuter said:
Historically,
The US has always been neutral with regard to the Falklands. That was one of the reasons that Argentina felt emboldened to invade in 1982...they figured Britain wouldn't act without the US. Oops.

What is sad is that Washington hasn't figured out that our 'on the fence' policy contributed to the bloodshed...and is re-running the same play. Argh. At least the Falklands are better protected by the Brits at the moment...
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Washington was neutral in the falklands in the same way as it was using the UN to seek a settlement of the dispute of Iraq and the sanctions.:rofl:
 
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