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I'm sorry Grundius but i have to post my aar now couse tommorw morning i'm going on vacation for 1 and a half weeks. can you just edit you first part of aar and add the rest.. and sorry but i made this aar in a hurry. :(

King PRODIGY

Warning to people with weak heart and children under 7, this is my first AAR.

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so the time came for king prodigy to rule this mighty *cough* kingdom. As you can see Hungary had 5 provinces not connected to it: Languedoc (French core), Roussillon (Spanish core), and Emilia (near Modena)
Piemonte and Savoie (both near France) France, Spain, Modena and Lorraine were in a military alliance. [Fantastic] to get this even worse they hated me and were couple LTs above me... Hungary had military access through Bavaria and that enabled to get to these provinces. I felt right away that this will start wars and I hoped to lose these provinces quickly.
Province Serbia and Kosovo were both orthodox and as I loaded the save I had the reformation event... so I knew that will make troubles since half of Hungary Is going to be reformed and the bohemian provinces are going to be protestant so I will have 4 religions.. Infrastructure was good (3, half way to 4) and trade same as infra. LT was horrible 3, I was behind everyone... and NT was also low. Hungary had A HYGE fleet (34) galleys and an event game me 5 warships.
Policies were OK. Centralized, Land and Quality.
Army was Average. Sienna and Wallachia were vassals.

My Goals were [marked with X on the map] wipe of the map Bavaria, Austria, Hussites, Wallachia and Venice.
Get Hungary modernized in LT, build a strong economy and deal with the stability (improve to 3)

So I unpaused the game… and started to improve stability. 2 years later France Dows me. Spain, Lorraine, Modena join her. With their massive armies they annihilate my 16k in Languedoc and Roussillon. I know the war is lost the second Palatinate dows me. Brandenburg ,Hussites with their 41k army, Saxony, Cleves join to crush me.
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I give up the French front and start a siege in Wurzburg and Silesia, Hussites capture Moravia and Erz and ask to them in peace. I decline and they go to Sudeten with the help of 21K Brandenburg army they siege it and… WINTER. 3/4 of the siege army dies. I capture Wurzburg and Silesia and ask palatinate for 150 ducats they agree and 150 from Brandenburg they also agree. Saxony agrees to WP and Hussites get annexed. Cleves WP also. The French front is lost. France who is the leader asks for Languedoc to France, Roussillon Piemonte to Spain and Emilia to Modena. I accept and the isolated Savoie released as vassal.

In the peace time I keep trying to improve stability, I get provinces changed to protestant and the county is full of rebels. Then Event [forgot the name] I choose to support Austria [second option was to secede like 6 provinces to Austria], Ottomans get cores on all over Hungary and Dow me. That was like a miracle. I propose to the Ottomans Kosovo and Serbia (only orthodox provinces) and on the second try they accept. YEEY!! Protestant tolerance set to max and religion problems gone. Then I annex Wallachia and get their 27k army and release them back as vassals  [I was short on troops]
After many peaceful years it was time for expansion, Austria, Bavaria and Sweden are in military alliance and I am with Poland in MA. I have a CB on Austria and I Dow them, after blitzkrieg I get Alsace, Baden, Mantua, Wittenberg.
From this point to the end of my time I was researching max LT and build refinery in Croatia and fine art in pest.
Then by event Austria dows me with no army, I annex them and then Bavaria Dows me too and get annexed too.
And that was it...
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Summary
LT improved by 12
Trade by 1
Infra by 1
2 Manufactories built
1 conquered (Alsace – refinery)
Stability is +3 [I have 3 religions but the stability make up for this]
No more Bavaria, Hussites, Austria. Wallachia orthodox, so no point in annex.
Venice has islands and bigger fleet in above me in NT so I didn't try.
Expansion = 0 provinces (lost 6, 1 released as vassal conquered 7)
BB 17 I think
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Looks like Prodigy choose to consolidate some of the gains made earlier.

Good read Grundius.
 
:( :( If you could see my tears... But as usual heirs do quite the opposite of their predecessors :rofl: . No exception here. I went towards France because I felt Hungary was in need of some richer provs. It wasn't the peace offer I wanted, but one can't be picky, especially when you get offered 3 provs. I thought the next reign would be something like:
1: vassalizing and later diplo-annex Switzerland
2: diplo-annex Bavaria
3: DoWs on Hungary by France (I figured this would happen quite often :D ) which would allow Hungary to conquer at least Provence (to get a port and connect provs)
4: vassalizing and later diplo-annex Austria

Boy, was I wrong :rofl:
 
Walter Model said:
How, how the heck did you get 2,735 posts all over September-April period?
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That's easy. Like this. :D Just don't get carried away and start spamming. You'll just get your posts deleted, and should you continue with spamming, a warning, and should you still continue at it, :eek:
 
Nagel said:
1: vassalizing and later diplo-annex Switzerland
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I tried, they refused.
Nagel said:
2: diplo-annex Bavaria
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They refused and cancelled vassalization. I had that twice in my game. It is one of the features of EU2 that I hate: I think -40 in relations is bad enough a penalty.
Nagel said:
3: DoWs on Hungary by France (I figured this would happen quite often :D ) which would allow Hungary to conquer at least Provence (to get a port and connect provs)
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Actually, I also tried this. But France was just too strong with all the rebels running riot in Hungary. I basically never got around to it, so I was stuck with wp'ing them all the time.
Nagel said:
4: vassalizing and later diplo-annex Austria
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I got a lot of events that harmed my relations with Austria. I went for conquering them by force in stead, fortunately, Prodigy did the same.
Nagel said:
Boy, was I wrong :rofl:
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Well, you can't always get what you want. :D

Prodigy: Well done, especially with Austria. However, why did you not immediately release Savoy as a vassal and cede those two provinces at the start of the French war? They have cores on them, so it should be possible. It would have spared you the troops, and Savoy could be a good ally.
 
spivey said:
Why hasn't the second part of Grundius' AAR been posted? Just busy?
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I had no Internet connection at home for a while - I have it now, and will probably post tonight or tomorrow.
 
The Reign of Grundius, Part II

I was now faced with a terrible dilemma: With Janos being an illegitimate child, the magnates could use that as an excuse to put a strawman on the throne. They forced this choice upon me: select their man, Wladislaw Jagiello IV, who, if one was in a generous mood, could be called incompetent and one they could easily control, but also one that would make Hungary weaker technologically and who would weaken the central authority; or choose the gifted Janos Corvinus and face a long civil war. Fortunately, nobody desired for Austrian rulers in Hungary, so the Austrian candidate was not even considered.

Deciding that sometimes one has to commit unpopular acts to serve the greater good, I cast my deciding vote for Janos Corvinus. He would ensure that the leadership of his father and grandfather would not have been in vain. The magnates promised me at least 20 years of open revolt, while the Transylvanian magnates immediately declared independence. I was, however, confident Janos could handle it.

The Reign of Janos Corvinus, April 1490 - October 1504​
Immediately after their declaration of independence, the Transylvanians declared war. All of Hungary's allies dishonoured. Bavaria, Austria and Switzerland seemed to be fed up with Hungarian leadership. Obviously, they were also fed up with winning wars, since fighting against Hungary was a lot less profitable than fighting with her. Unlikely help came from Moldavia however, as they invaded Transylvania. Janos decided to withdraw from the war, let Moldavia conquer the nation and then use the Hungarian claim on Transylvania to take it from Moldavia with much less international scorn. A white peace was signed with Transylvania in November of 1490. The next month, Switzerland became allies with Hungary again. The Austrians, now considered to be, judging by their feelings towards Hungary, the worst of enemies, declined, leaving her all alone as a vassal without a master to protect her.

Meanwhile, conflict errupted throughout the realm. Almost all of the Hungarian treasury was used to recruit loyalist troops, as the magnates brought many of their own forces to bear against Janos. Sometimes they would be met in open battle, sometimes they were lured to a location where they could easily be defeated. Most of the revolts took place in the Balkan area, where a failed inquisition only fueled the anger.

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Hungarian forces wait for the rebels to come to them​


In May of 1491, Siena, a loyal vassal, joined in the alliance. Bavaria would later be punished for her disloyalty, while it was decided that the matter with Austria would be diplomatically resolved, Janos believing that they would eventually be absorbed into the kingdom. In January of '94, the magnates started to turn on each other as a noble was assasinated, plunging the nation further into chaos. To add insult to injury, Siena declared war on Modena in January of 1495. Normally this would be a great opportunity for Hungary, since the conquest of Tuscany could create a direct border with Siena allowing Janos to make Siena part of Hungary again, yet the fact was that Siena was allied to France and Spain, two nations bordering lands where Hungary had very inferior forces and very little way of recruiting reinforcements. Fortunately, the French were as disillusioned by the idea of war as Hungary, and after some minor border skirmishes - Janos adopting the same tactics as his father, attacking where he wanted to, not defending where the enemy wanted to - they signed a five-year truce.

Many more things happened that threatened the frail stability of Hungary. A wave of obscurantism washed over the lands. There came a scandal at the court. And the inclusion of Portugal into the alliance in August of '95 was sadly eclipsed by Austria cancelling her vassalization to Hungary in April of 1499. Upon hearing the news, Janos decided that Austria would be chastened.

Two years later, Hungary was at relative peace, with few rebelling magnates in the realm, and war was declared on Austria. It would be a more difficult affair than the first war, wherein Hungary faced overwhelming odds and won, but in this war, she also faced overwhelming odds against the criminals that often rose in open revolt. Nonetheless, Vienna and Odenburg where captured by December of 1501. Steiermark fell to Austria the next year in April of '02, but Tirol was captured three months later. This gave Janos enough leverage to demand the gold mines of Tirol as compensation, and in December of 1503 the Austrians accepted. They were severly chastened by Hungary, a nation they had thought ripe for the picking. The price for their betrayal had been high, yet only lack of resources had saved them from being subjugated as vassals once more, a fate they righteously deserved.


Janos had already laid out plans for attacking Austria again to finish the job, after all, they still controlled Vienna and Odenburg, to which Hungary had a rightfull claim. However, Corvinus met an unfortunate fate and died early in October 1504. Once again, Hungary was without leader. Who would rise up to the challenge?
 
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The Reign of Grundius, Part III

Now, darkness loomed on the horizon. I had avoided Hungary's descent towards being a backward, second rank power 14 years before, believing Janos could crush the magnates and for once create a stable line of Corvinus Kings, but death took him. He had no doubt been able to acclomplish what his father had set out to do, making Hungary a modern, powerful state, but now, with him gone and the only competent candidate, Zapolya, lost when Transylvania became independent, I had no choice but to accept Ulaszlo the Second, Wadislaw Jagiello the Fourth, who's epitath should be "The Puppet", as King, making Hungary vassals to Poland, Jagiello's homeland. The wayward magnates in Transylvania accepted this new king and once again joined Hungary. They brought Wallachia with them, which the warmongers had conquered in the meantime. I had no choice but to face:

The Reign of Ulaszlo II, October 1504 - March 1516​

Ulaszlo was a puppet of the magnates, a puppet of the Polish and a man who was no friend of the people. He restored serfdom and gave the aristocrats more power. All in all this was good for fielding a powerful cavalry army, yet this entire civil war - which was still raging, nobody knowing why - made those still expensive and high morale for the infantry forces was now needed, which the serfdom restricted. The central authority was weakened and he openly opposed technological progress. Hungary was now on a path that could only lead to darkness and despair.

Hungary was still plagued by stability problems. Wallachia was released as a vassal and an alliance was signed with them. In September of 1509, while fighting continuously against rebels that now obviously fought for no other cause then their personal gain, Ulaszlo did something unexpected by the world: he cancelled the vassalization with Poland. Ulaszlo was incompetent, but not without courage. He was foolish to now give the rebels more fuel by introducing a new tax in March of 1511. He was obviously a puppet still of the magnates, for he let them subjugate the peasants in April of 1510 and quickly ceded the lands of an heirless noble to one of his most loyal followers - read most powerful controllers. However, Ulaszlo was able to bring an end to the civil war in October of '14. The land was ravaged yet a shimmer of hope was on the horizon.

A faint shimmer however, for the nobles again turned upon eachother by assasinating a powerful "advisor" of Ulaszlo. This destabalized the country yet again, but with this advisor gone, Ulaszlo was now primarily under the spell of those men who had at least loved the plan of the Corvini with Austria. War was declared on Austria, officially over Odenburg, in April of 1415. Ulaszlo would not see the spoils of war however, as he died and was replaced by a regent, Cardinal Bakocz. He could easily fit in Ulaszlo's role as incompetent man with too much power.
 
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The Reign of Grundius, Part IV

Dark clouds were packing over Hungary. I knew we had, for once, an advantage in numbers over Austria, but they had the great general Von Frundsberg and their ruler, Maximillian, was also a great soldier. Perhaps this war had been foolish - but I must say that Ulaszlo did less damage than I would have thought. We had a great general on our side, Miklos Zrinyi, who was probably a match for Von Frundsberg. Leading a large army of cavalry, he would face Von Frundsberg outside of Vienna.....

The Reign of Cardinal Bakocz, March 1516 - December 1518
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Once again the Austrians were allowed to siege the borderlands, while their homelands were directly invaded. Amidst all this a plague spread throughout the lands, bringing Hungary to an all-time low in stability. Spirits were raised somewhat however, by that titanic clash outside of Vienna, in which Miklos Zrinyi outmanouevred Von Frundsberg and crushed the great general in August of 1516. Von Frundsberg himself was captured and would never serve Austria again. Spurred on by this victory, Odenburg was captured, however, Salzburg, Steiermark and Ostmarch fell into the hands of Maximillian.

Not for long however. Maximillian marched on towards Tirol, his greed leading him away from Vienna, where he should have fought off Hungary. In February of 1517 Steiermark was freed and in March Vienna capitulated. Ostmarch was recaptured in September of 1517. Now external events came to Hungary's aid as the Spanish Habsburgs, not the Austrian Habsburgs, annexed Burgundy. While Hungary's accomplishments in the war against Austria despite the violent civil war that had been gave her a great reputation, Austria accepted peace in April of 1518, handing over Odenburg.

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Hungary was not out of the woods yet, I knew. The Ottomans were ever dangerous to the south. Austria was soundly chastized twice, but still remained. Poland was an ever-growing power, having incorporated Moldavia. To the west, Spain and France eyed Hungarian possesions there with envy, and there were also the dangerous Hussites and a number of unpredictable states to the north, among which Brandenburg. Finally, Bavaria was still strong and who knows what the Italians might yet throw at us? Hungary could not be more unstable and funds that had thusfar been used to send merchants around the world and fuel research had to be used to keep the stability of the nation up. I once thought that stability would never become my concern. I was wrong. I also knew however, that it would not remain to be so much longer. My successor would deal with it, and after all, he was said to be a prodigy....

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The boundaries of Hungary in 1518. ​
 
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