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TheLoneGunman said:
And here is another possibility, cutting out most of Africa by adding a tilt to the map:

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This one seems the best in my opinion. Beyond those borders (even within them in some places) the game engine couldn't modle what was going on properly anyway. The Himalayas is a good point in the east to stop, as thre dosn't seem to have been much going on between there and China during this time anyway (I am probably wrong). Also, the interesting world of Greco-India and so can be replicated nicley, as well as providing a counter balance for the Selucids.
 
The Andy-Man said:
This one seems the best in my opinion. Beyond those borders (even within them in some places) the game engine couldn't modle what was going on properly anyway. The Himalayas is a good point in the east to stop, as thre dosn't seem to have been much going on between there and China during this time anyway (I am probably wrong). Also, the interesting world of Greco-India and so can be replicated nicley, as well as providing a counter balance for the Selucids.
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Well for areas that the game cannot model, there is Terra Incognita! ;)

But I happen to agree with the thought that the slightly tilted map is the best option, I just wanted to present as many different options as possible so everyone could get a good look!

Ideally, I want to cut the map off before China, otherwise we'd have to include the Chinese, and as much as some of us would love to have the Warring States included in the game, it would be far too much to model and would be far too far away from Rome to have much of an impact in the game.

The main point is to allow any mod that wishes to recreate eras such as the Achaemenid Empire, the Macedonian Empire of Alexander, and even the Roman Empire under Trajan.

Heck, with the last few maps, it's possible to even recreate the Mauryan Empire.

I'd like to have the far east be a giant cesspool of barbarian hordes, since I also hope that with a map of this scale I will be able to fill Gaul, Germany, and Britain with tribes.
 
I like the second one as well. You could possibly even save space by cutting a little off the top of the map again, but it's not really necessary (PTI FTW).
 
Well I'm going to give it at least a few more days for everyone to chime in.

But it looks as though we have a clear direction to go in now.

Now a big request I have from you guys is if any of you can dig up some maps of Germania and to the north and east of Germania that may list various tribes and their locations.

I'd prefer the maps reflect possible tribal compositions before the advent of the Roman Empire, but I'll even take any up to about Trajan's reign.

I have plenty of maps of Gaul and the British isles already, so there will be more than enough tribes included for those areas. :)

Tribes of Illyria, Dacia, Thracia, and Iberia are also welcome if you have them.

I'd like to pool all of our resources here, so we can all make something great happen.

I'm going to also upload some of the juicier maps that I have found for you guys to take a look at:















 
Here's the cleanest example of what I'm assuming is the amount of tilt (15 degrees) that everyone is interested in.

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If we can agree on this, then work can begin on terrain and topography.
 
Looks hot to me!
 
Camara said:
Looks good, and so many beautiful rivers :D
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The biggest issue will be which ones are accurate for that time period and which ones are thanks to modern man. :)
 
Looks fine to me also. Presumabley alot the top right corner and also alot of Arabia and saharan africa will be PTI? (With a big picture of Wilbon and Kornheiser for our amusment!!!).

As for topography, do we know where we can find ancient era-topographical maps? I belive the Mesopotamian region was a little more pleasent then it is now.
 
The Andy-Man said:
Looks fine to me also. Presumabley alot the top right corner and also alot of Arabia and saharan africa will be PTI? (With a big picture of Wilbon and Kornheiser for our amusment!!!).

As for topography, do we know where we can find ancient era-topographical maps? I belive the Mesopotamian region was a little more pleasent then it is now.
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Well we'll have room for the Kushites to the south of Egypt, Sabaeans in Southern Arabia (we could possibly shield them with PTI across their northern border where there was nothing but nomads and barren land), the Nabateans in Northwestern Arabia, and even Aksum.

The Saraha itself will be mostly PTI I'm sure.
 
Hardradi said:
Looks good, plenty of opportunity to expand.



If you like I can sketch up some thoughts on the Sahara and West Africa. I did a lot of research on it when I first created Africa mod.
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Of course!

As the title of the thread says, this is an open source project. So all information anyone has is welcome here.

We can make this a pool of important resources for not just this map project, but any other project that involves and area that I am covering as well.

The more resources we all can share the better!

I also have some big ideas for when I am actually finished with the terrain and get a chance to start placing provinces. :)
 
I'm currently trying to get my hands on some rare book that depicts ancienty mediterranean geology/geography which should provide a nice source of information on the coastline and rivers of that time, if available. Coastline shouldn't have changed much in the mediterranean apart from areas as around venice for example (Ravenna of course being the most obvious location as it once was a major port of the roman fleet, but now lies a few kilometers from the coast; or the gulf of ephesos which didn't exist in antiquity), there isn't enough tidal motion to change much. Things get interesting on the north sea and atlantic shores. I know too little about the indian ocean but maybe the book covers that as well.
 
Mædhric said:
I'm currently trying to get my hands on some rare book that depicts ancienty mediterranean geology/geography which should provide a nice source of information on the coastline and rivers of that time, if available. Coastline shouldn't have changed much in the mediterranean apart from areas as around venice for example (Ravenna of course being the most obvious location as it once was a major port of the roman fleet, but now lies a few kilometers from the coast; or the gulf of ephesos which didn't exist in antiquity), there isn't enough tidal motion to change much. Things get interesting on the north sea and atlantic shores. I know too little about the indian ocean but maybe the book covers that as well.
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By all means if you get such a book feel free to critique the map. Or (if possible) scan some images for us!

I am starting work on the rivers today.

Also learning how to utilize GIMP to its full potential now too! :D
 
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