The name of Xixia is incorrect and Suggestions for the Guiyi Army

[zeruosi]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this before. The real name of the Western Xia was neither "Xi Xia"/西夏 nor "Mi Yao"/弥药 as in current games. If transliterated in the Tangut language, the name of Western Xia should be "Bang Ni Ding"/邦泥定. If translated literally, it is called "The Great Great White State"/大高白国.
"Mi Yao" was the name used by the Tibetans to refer to the Western Xia, while the name "Western Xia" originated from the appellation given by the Song Dynasty, meaning a state that claimed to be Xia in the west. If adopting a Sinicized name, it should not carry any directional indication. Therefore, it should simply be called "Xia"/夏.

Incidentally, the Guiyi Army should have made a resolution to establish the “Great Xi Han Jin Shan State”/西汉金山国. Because historically, when the Guiyi Army briefly declared independence and proclaimed itself an emperor, it used this name.

 

[klopkr]

Good catch.

I do think it's funny to give the Guiyi circuit a decision to have exactly the name as you wrote it out because it looks hilarious in english and would look great on the map.

 

[William-frost]

Many people reported the name error a long time ago, but Paradox ignored it.

 

[zeruosi]

Many people reported the name error a long time ago, but Paradox ignored it.

Thank you. Although I can't understand why PDX ignores these suggestions. This country is not a nomadic one, and the records are very clear. I hope this situation can be modified in the China DLC.

 

[zeruosi]

Good catch.

I do think it's funny to give the Guiyi circuit a decision to have exactly the name as you wrote it out because it looks hilarious in english and would look great on the map.

I think that after the Guiyi Army was able to conquer the Tarim Basin and the Junggar Basin, that is, the area that the Anxi Protectorate could stably control in history and was in an independent state, this country could be established. In history, the Guiyi Army once thought about returning to the Anxi Protectorate, but they were too weak. Controlling the existing land consumed a large amount of wealth, and they were not trusted by the Tang Dynasty, which meant that they could not get assistance. Therefore, the Guiyi Army was independent for a short time and called itself an empire. Its emperor was called the "White-clothed Heavenly Son".

 

[Nagabhata]

I think that after the Guiyi Army was able to conquer the Tarim Basin and the Junggar Basin, that is, the area that the Anxi Protectorate could stably control in history and was in an independent state, this country could be established. In history, the Guiyi Army once thought about returning to the Anxi Protectorate, but they were too weak. Controlling the existing land consumed a large amount of wealth, and they were not trusted by the Tang Dynasty, which meant that they could not get assistance. Therefore, the Guiyi Army was independent for a short time and called itself an empire. Its emperor was called the "White-clothed Heavenly Son".

Based on what I have learned, I believe this was an unrealistic attempt to replace the Tang dynasty. White is associated with metal, and later Huang Chao and Zhu Wen both used metal to represent the virtue of their dynasties, replacing the earth of the Tang dynasty. Perhaps this is also related to the Western representation of metal.