The Next War Mod 0.2 alpha (2000-s years mod)

[Andri]

Also it still crashes i have played for 6 days and it crashed

 

[Andri]

I would love to see a event in this mod for russia to recreate USSR that would be so cool :rofl:

 

[Digoo]

Hotfix - yes.
Correct installation - no. Why? Because I can't be bothered to manually rename/make copies of all the folders in the game every time I want to switch mods. I use JSGME.exe utility which basically overwrites existing game files with mod files, leaving others intact. If there are some old game files which cause problems and need to be deleted, why don't you include their blank copies in the mod so plain copying would work?

There too much of them, Paradox may create new and new. But any way - you problem in in files synchronizing. Why not ot create different folder? I have about 10 dirs with different games and never have problems with any mod.

The paradox idea of left-right and democratic-authoritarian slider is fine as far as this game ideology goes, the only problem is that nearly all countries will end up on the same spot, especially on the left-right axis, since ideology doesn't really matter any more (think Venezuelan relations with Iran - totally different idologies and still friends).
In more practical terms a pro-american vs anti-american axis would be good enough, just an idea.

What is Left and what is Right? Do you now that correctly means of this sliders are already in other slider? Socialism and nationalism are simple two another sliders in country ideologyes, but still work in into one axis. Look, democracy-authority & nationalism-socialism as at one difficult axis.
Other sliders include market regulations - also important axis of country, and sociaty regulation. In this way we cover every possible regimes i can image

No, I see no evidence of socialist policies in China. China has a slightly regulated market economy, and the said regulations exist for the most part not to promote public welfare, but just help manage the business development.

It's your version. Maybe we use different determinations of the socialism?

I only had the time to look at Russia before the game started crashing. Well, the point is that if the national territory gets annexed, the country that takes control gets all the natural resources, IC, and no partisan uprisings in occupied territories. For example you have almost all of Ukraine as Russia's national territory, even though as the recent events show all of western and central Ukraine hates Russia completely. You also have the Baltics as Russian territory, and I don't need to tell you that Baltic people hate Russia a lot. You even have some of Polish territory as Russian national! On the other hand, you have almost all of Kazakhstan outside of Russian national claims, even though Kazakhstanians (and central asians in general) wouldn't mind being annexed by Russia.

Western part of Ukraine is not russian, don't worry. Other part is really pro-russian
Baltic states have lots of russian population, wich hates these baltic states Maybe i should make land of baltic "states" with no-one national land? =)

I know this is all your subjective opinion, but it looks really strange to me. At least it is not strange for me

Also another question, how did you calcualte national IC? If you just did it by total GDP, shouldn't Russia, at the start of the game, have a lower IC than Netherlands, for instance? And certainly lower than UK?

IC = industry in GDP. Nothing more. It is +/-really industry ratings + tech effects.

And yeah, in 1996, Russia is definately NOT a grand/superpower. Not even a major power at all.

It is you opion. I will look at YOUR country after 70 years of bolsheviks RULE Don't be afraid, if democracy gang is at rule in Russia, lots of negative events will happend. It is not mod about super-russia to make western men to be unhappy :rofl:

 

[Digoo]

I would love to see a event in this mod for russia to recreate USSR that would be so cool :rofl:

No, no more USSR

 

[Digoo]

Also it still crashes i have played for 6 days and it crashed

Use different directories... View topic, and just follow the instruction

 

[Digoo]

Hey why dose Germany start with close to 0 manpower and gain around 0,015 manpower? Im planing on doing ww2 all over again

abou 500 MP is too few for you?
This is normal game conception of manpower. It is proportional to real population. It is a pity that only India and China have as much peoples as they want. Begin real WW3 - your national will be mobilized, if you prefer it.

 

[Digoo]

Digoo: I disagree with your listing of the powers. Here's how I put it:
Superpowers: USA, Russia, China, EU (if unified), India?
Great Powers: UK, France, Japan, Germany, Brazil, S.Korea, Israel
Powers: Iran, Turkey, Spain, Italy, Thailand, Indonesia, Australia, Argentina, N. Korea, Taiwan, Canada, Mexico, South Africa, Ukraine

I thought about India. Maybe, because differense between super-power and grand-country in much lower, than between grand and major. Two years ago i consider India too decentralized confederation country
Are you sneering me about Izrael? It has not enough men, territory, industry. Yes, it is unique country - hight culture and society developed european centralized country amoung low countries with undeveloped society and culture. But not more. I don't consider it even major.
Korea(even united) is too few in size. Any way it can be conguered too simply. So, only major. North Korea is too "stalinisted", peoples there are on border of physical survival.

But except Israel plus or minus list are not totally different.

 

[MoxPearl]

But all important countries have their teach teams, haven't they? Very detailed, as i think.
Also, it is too difficult to find out about 120-150 real generals for 30+ countries. If you would like - i will be pleased by your help =) And now i think it is quite good situation with leaders, which makes me.

Well i mean compared to the modern day mod.....

for example my country (New Zealand) it had all the proper tech teams.. leaders etc.. and thats only for a country of 4 million peoples

All the info is already in the modern day mod.. and its not like u would be "Stealing" anything.. its just info

 

[unmerged(62947)]

I thought about India. Maybe, because differense between super-power and grand-country in much lower, than between grand and major. Two years ago i consider India too decentralized confederation country
Are you sneering me about Izrael? It has not enough men, territory, industry. Yes, it is unique country - hight culture and society developed european centralized country amoung low countries with undeveloped society and culture. But not more. I don't consider it even major.
Korea(even united) is too few in size. Any way it can be conguered too simply. So, only major. North Korea is too "stalinisted", peoples there are on border of physical survival.

But except Israel plus or minus list are not totally different.

I can't agree with you,Israel isn't superpower,but it's most powerful nation in Middle East.After all,they have proven that in many wars

 

[Andri]

Well i started building indunstry and infantstucter everywhere and sudenly 0 manpower

 

[Digoo]

I can't agree with you,Israel isn't superpower,but it's most powerful nation in Middle East.After all,they have proven that in many wars

Example: if Cuba is the most powerful nation among Caribs, it doesn't make it important power in the world. Summary scale is much more important. The same thing with Izrael. Also, their IC is lower that Egypt has. In reality arabs couldn't fight in a proper way. But in future it can be changed.

 

[Digoo]

Well i started building indunstry and infantstucter everywhere and sudenly 0 manpower

Buildings costs much in MP. It is your decision to build up economy and devept everything in country, or in afaraid of being attacked build up the military. Industry needs working hands, money - doesn't.

 

[jose1357]

if you want the USSR just give Russia the cut/paste cores from Hoi2 & acceptall/freedom, as for the left/right socialist/fasict issue well it really comes down to judgement, if you have an issue with it, then just mod the 1996 files.
Brazil Ministers:
http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Parties/Brazil/desc.html
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/br.html world factbook also use it for other countries it should at least have the major parties listed (eg. US only has Dem., GOP, greens, & libertarians???)
http://pdba.georgetown.edu/ -database 4 the americas w/ all branches
http://www.brazil.org.uk/government/index.html -brazil's uk embassy w/ additional links 2 gov't websites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Brazil wiki site & links (always check the sources...)

 

[Digoo]

if you want the USSR just give Russia the cut/paste cores from Hoi2 & acceptall/freedom, as for the left/right socialist/fasict issue well it really comes down to judgement, if you have an issue with it, then just mod the 1996 files.

National lands of Russia in TNW are really lands of one nation. It is not just copy-paste from USSR, how you can see (if you want). No one is disargee with Germany & Austria is one nation? The same thing with Russia, Belorussia (Belorus) and Malorussian (Ukraine, except true anti-russian Lvov). Baltic is dicussable, but one-third of russian peoples there can help to rule in a proper way. Some events about unhappy latvians may be added

 

[unmerged(62947)]

Example: if Cuba is the most powerful nation among Caribs, it doesn't make it important power in the world. Summary scale is much more important. The same thing with Izrael. Also, their IC is lower that Egypt has. In reality arabs couldn't fight in a proper way. But in future it can be changed.

I didn't said it should be superpower,just give it enough military so it can fight with Arabs

 

[Nietzsche]

I didn't said it should be superpower,just give it enough military so it can fight with Arabs

<.<..

Only reason Israel is so frikken' powerful is becuase it's flooded with top-notch US equiptment.

One must remember-

Having the best military in the Middle East is like having the best Human Rights record in the Middle East.

 

[unmerged(54011)]

yeah but they have also fighting spirit remember 1948? 5 neighbour countries attacked them the israelis with almost no good equipment no airforce not many tanks and short on everything keeped them of

 

[unmerged(62947)]

yeah but they have also fighting spirit remember 1948? 5 neighbour countries attacked them the israelis with almost no good equipment no airforce not many tanks and short on everything keeped them of

I agree,you should just give them enough firepower to face Arabians,and that's all

 

[Kami888]

Why not ot create different folder?

Because I honestly don't have enough hard drive space for that. My current HDD is 10Gb in size

What is Left and what is Right?

Uhh, it would take a long time for me to start describing it here, but suffrice to say that most modern day countries would be moderate right-wing (USA, Russia, Japan, etc). Some minors will be far-right (Iran, Burma, Saudi Arabia, and a whole bunch of dictatorships in south america and africa). And only a few moderate-leftists (Cuba, Venezuella, maybe Belarus). China is definately not socialist any more though. In fact marxist sites are banned in China as revolutionary.

But in general ideology is no longer as important as it was before, so... Well honsetly I don't really know what to advice you here, aside from fixing China.

Socialism and nationalism are simple two another sliders in country ideologyes

The problem is that nationalism and socialism don't really have to contradict each other. For example, what do you think NBP is?

Maybe we use different determinations of the socialism?

Quite possibly.

Western part of Ukraine is not russian, don't worry. Other part is really pro-russian

Yeah but your division in game totally doesn't coincide with actual West-East Ukrainian division line. Here it is if you want to see it:

See what I'm talking about? You've got all of central ukraine including Kiev as Russian national, which doesn't seem to be right.

Baltic states have lots of russian population, wich hates these baltic states

Oh come on I'm sure you know that this Russian population is actually negligible in comparison with the total population of the baltic states.
For example in Lithuania:
Lithuanians 83.6%
Russians 6.3%
Do you really think these 6.3 percent can make any difference?

IC = industry in GDP

Interesting... Why do you think other sectors should not count?

I will look at YOUR country after 70 years of bolsheviks RULE

During the 70 years of Bolshevik rule Russia came to be more powerful than ever before, by the way.

 

[unmerged(63886)]

Baltic states

I must disagree with you, Kami888.

Estonians and Russians in Estonia:

(In percent)

Nationalitet1922 1934 1959 1970 1979 1989 2000
Ester 87,7 88,2 74,6 68,2 64,7 61,5 68,3
Ryssar 8,2 8,2 20,1 24,7 27,9 30,3 25,8

Source: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estland#Demografi

Latvians and Russians in Latvia:

(In percent)

1935 1959 1970 1979 1989
Etniskt ursprung Antal Procent Antal Procent Antal Procent Antal Procent Antal Procent
Letter 1 467,0 77,0 1 297,9 62,0 1 341,8 56,8 1 344,1 54,0 1 387,8 52,0
Ryssar 168,3 8,8 556,4 26,6 704,6 29,8 821,5 32,8 905,5 34,0*

*The most recent number is 29,6% according to the same source

Translation:

Etniskt ursprung = Nationalty
Antal = How many
Procent = Percent

Source: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litauen#Demografi

You cant argue with these numbers, since they are from a very reliable source:

Library of Congress Country Studies:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/latvia/lv_appen.html


When you point out Lithuania as an example that there are not many russians there, you make one fundamental mistake: Lithuania didn't have the same russification as the two other baltic states and therefore lacks the big minorites that the others had.