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What needs to happen is, if this hasn't already happened, for people to band together in an online game and their sole priority is to exterminate the Karling line. Man, that is one hell of an undertaking. And I thought my plan to exterminate the Lannister line was a tough one.
Start in 867 with the following objectives:
- No Karlings must be left alive
- No branches of Karlings must be left alive
- Every European kingdom must be ruled by a ruler of a separate dynasty (unless a player dynasty)
I once played a Roman Empire game where the last Karling died out in the 1080s.
I blinked and rechecked.
1080s.
I found that several great and powerful and annoying dynasties had disappeared.
The Karlings were gone.
Then, I celebrated the death of the Karlings, with much merriment. Only to notice that half of my vassals had gone French in my Greek Roman Empire.
The Civil wars were huge, the revocation sprees gigantic.
1080s - no Karlings.
What are you talking about, sir? If I ever dare to start in 867 Karling plague never dies before the last century of the game, and even if it dies it is my own effort in eliminating them. Their dynasty usually covers all Europe and western Africa if left alone.
Even in 769 they spread like there is no tomorrow.
Even in 769 they spread like there is no tomorrow.
I was suprised too! I couldn't believe it at first. I think it was because as I rebuilt the empire, I unlanded the more major dynasties. Thus the Karlings were high on the list. Though how there wasn't some baron, or count left, I have no Idea. No idea at all.
They must've gone completely landless, and landless dynasties tend to die out within 2-3 generations because their AI overlords don't tend to marry them to someone.
Was there not a single family member left? Women must've survived at least?
Last Karling was a Castillian Baron's wife who died in the late 1080s. IIRC, the last landed Karling died round 1069.
The Bigger they are.......
This same game had the Abbasids destroyed in 150 years, Buddhism in India gone by 1300, a brief Zoroastrian Karen revival(later went messalian), and Mongols actually reaching the crimea.
Oh yes, the French set up a colony in arabia, which later became the kingdom of arabia.
At the end of the game the world was divided by Rome, Scandinavia, Mali, Russia, Persia, the Golden Horde and three Indian states.
It was a clear cut case of if you have the power, the world is your oyster.
It also made me wish for better cultural conversion mechanics.
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Karlings and Abbasids dying out? What a beautiful game this must have been
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The Abbasids in my last game... Despite having lost their empire in like 800, at the end of the campaign had something like 7000 dynasty members, dead and living, and more or less the same amount of dynastic prestige..
Even Abbasids? In the same game? That must've been a pretty heavenly experience. Two numerically largest and most annoying dynasties in the game dying out...Abbasids in 769 have a tendency to collapse against decadance revolts but never in 867.
CK2 late game in general is like that. For a few centuries there is a mess, but by late game the stable blobs form and settle down. By 1300 the blobs are so well settled that they are almost equal in power to each other, and no one is able to win any wars and break the stalemate.
In my current game, there are no Karlings that I'm aware of. And the Abbasids had a single, independent duchy in Persia that I just snatched from them (circa 1400).
Looks like some Frank migrated to Croatia to pick on those Slavic warlords, and decided to stay there permanently for a long time.
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One of the French ruler's vassals is even a Capet. They probably fled the west when the Umayyad-Occitain coalition kept pressing northwards. :/
I once had a game were the karlings of middle francia conquered a chunk of land in croatia and even went croatic then. But I got no picsof that.
When you thought you've seen everything... some random indian buddhist took over Arabia. I looked through his dynasty and turns out his grandpa was a king of a small kingdom in western India.
Other than that, he doesn't even have a child.
Other than that, he doesn't even have a child.
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